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As a small caveat, while my group only really uses the first three options, I wouldn't be opposed to the use of other sources.

I wouldn't say "No" to someone using a "Legend" model. I just don't do it myself.
   
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 Sim-Life wrote:
 Jidmah wrote:

- Surprisingly few people are actually using the ITC as their way of playing. .


Why is that surprising?


As stated, the presence of ITC in threads about tactics and in blogs/videos suggests that way more people are playing ITC. Apparently, their followers are just more vocal.

 Daedalus81 wrote:
SemperMortis wrote:
Yes, because everyone lines up on the deployment line when facing off against orkz, especially when said orkz are fielding 3 Bonebreakers...which rely exclusively on getting into CC to inflict any kind of actual harm. All of your arguments rely upon your opponent being a brain dead muppet who just lets you maul him.


Yea...that's called board control.
 
   
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 Jidmah wrote:
 Sim-Life wrote:
 Jidmah wrote:

- Surprisingly few people are actually using the ITC as their way of playing. .


Why is that surprising?


As stated, the presence of ITC in threads about tactics and in blogs/videos suggests that way more people are playing ITC. Apparently, their followers are just more vocal.


https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/784929.page

I did a poll specifically about who plays ITC a few months ago.

 
   
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 Jidmah wrote:
 Sim-Life wrote:
 Jidmah wrote:

- Surprisingly few people are actually using the ITC as their way of playing. .


Why is that surprising?


As stated, the presence of ITC in threads about tactics and in blogs/videos suggests that way more people are playing ITC. Apparently, their followers are just more vocal.


The issue is you maybe haven't asked the question you think you have, or atleast I didn't take the option in the poll to mean what you take it to mean.

If you had asked ITC missions then you'll get 1 answer.
ITC format is a kinda ambiguous term, an event can be an ITC event and use malestorm or custom missions I'm sure someone who is more current can explain this better.

Also the tactics threads tend to get the people more interested in winning and hence more likely to be going to events more likely to be running ITC mission pack or atleast understand it impacts the viability of certain lists.

Narative events exsist but most of those players are in it for a different reason so less likely to be found in tactics theads.
   
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The dark hollows of Kentucky

Y'know there's plenty of us who don't play tournaments but still try to win right?
   
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Using and not using WD rules are not the same as accepted. I've never seen anyone, any local, or even an event from at least 2010 till not, not allow WD rules. Some has stated you need the real WD (b.c powerful combos like Skyhammer), but never really said no to them. For years some armies only been in WD.

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Ice_can wrote:
ITC format is a kinda ambiguous term, an event can be an ITC event and use malestorm or custom missions I'm sure someone who is more current can explain this better.

I literally used the name on the document explaining this mission.

 Daedalus81 wrote:
SemperMortis wrote:
Yes, because everyone lines up on the deployment line when facing off against orkz, especially when said orkz are fielding 3 Bonebreakers...which rely exclusively on getting into CC to inflict any kind of actual harm. All of your arguments rely upon your opponent being a brain dead muppet who just lets you maul him.


Yea...that's called board control.
 
   
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 Jidmah wrote:
Ice_can wrote:
ITC format is a kinda ambiguous term, an event can be an ITC event and use malestorm or custom missions I'm sure someone who is more current can explain this better.

I literally used the name on the document explaining this mission.

No that document is Titled (2020) 8th Edition ITC Champion Mission pack.
   
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 Shooter wrote:
I just wanna say this is the most dakkadakka thread i've ever seen. 2 or 3 posts actually answering the question and about 100 arguing over the definition of optional
I take umbrage with your use of the word "definition" you swine. Have at you!

I wonder, if the word dakka has come to mean "arguing about the meaning of words to insane levels pedantry", does that mean that Orks now refer mass firepower as https://imgflip.com/i/41zroq

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/05/19 03:17:56


 
   
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The shift to more acceptance of WD content probably has more to do with more "core" rules appearing in it for things like Assassins and entire armies like Deathwatch and Harlequins. I think prior to Assassins there was very little rules material in WD that seemed like it was designed to be used without prior consent.

The ITC thing isn't so surprising to me, but then I've always felt proponents of ITC were just more vocal than people playing other mission types. I think the improvement in the CA19 missions has probably helped people move towards them as viable. They're easier to understand, too, which is a big factor for a lot of people and they have genuine variety.

Overall the poll seems to be pointing to more or less what I would have expected so far.
   
 
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