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Ice_can wrote:I got the impression from the way the designers were talking crusade is something altogether different and not compatible with matched play in any way, unfortunately it seems to be trying to bring back the old school RPG stule elements from necromunda and kill team into 40k where you get rec points per game and they allow you to buy skills and upgrades. What your describing sounds actually way better and much more useful that what GW have apparently decied to add to the BRB and the upcoming codex's.

No way to tell at this point. It may be perfectly compatible with Matched Play, or at least, compatible with minimal adjustment.

It would be rather interesting to see TC's look at doing Crusade-style tournaments where those at the top have come crazy powerful units by the end. A devil to keep track of, maybe, but one heck of a ride if you can.

Mr Morden wrote:Marines is also almost certainly one of the first Codex's.

And then the huge pile of addiotnal Marine Codexs/Supplements - what is there 10-15 now?

No guarantee on that. We thought that for 6th Edition, and Codex Marines didn't come out for a year. Admittedly the first two were Chaos Marines and Dark Angels (the ones in the box, and they were way behind, too).

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
The only people who aren't buying this edition are the people who don't play anyway.

Right. I voted "yes" because I love the setting and game despite what personal problems I have with any given edition and wish to continue playing. This makes the seventh edition I've played. Not my first rodeo.

Maybe.

Glad to see the necrons. But...
there's the main rules issues, the codex rules issues and the actually-playing-physical-games-in-public-spaces in the current world state issue.


So, answer vague, check back later.

Yeah, I'll be down for both.

I have a Necron army that I haven't played much in 8th, and this has really reinvigorated my interest. I'll probably pick up two Necron Halves, though this depends on how the warriors loadout is and squad size. Soul Wars did a really bad job about model/unit sizes, and I don't plan to get burned there again.

It sounds like they are fixing a lot of the issues in 8th. AoS did this with 2nd edition, which was closer to a 1.5, and it became immensely popular.

Voss wrote:
there's the main rules issues, the codex rules issues and the actually-playing-physical-games-in-public-spaces in the current world state issue.

Yeah. Warhammer TV stated something like it was the most refined ruleset ever. I made a scoffing sound almost right away.

I almost wonder how much the FAQs will screw up current codex balancing. It was pretty interesting for 6th and 7th Edition's transitions.

 Charistoph wrote:

Voss wrote:
there's the main rules issues, the codex rules issues and the actually-playing-physical-games-in-public-spaces in the current world state issue.

Yeah. Warhammer TV stated something like it was the most refined ruleset ever. I made a scoffing sound almost right away.

I almost wonder how much the FAQs will screw up current codex balancing. It was pretty interesting for 6th and 7th Edition's transitions.

Hopefully the rules chat on Tuesday will help shed some light. I'm particularly interested in the terrain rules and cp generation.

Have they given a time for the chat yet?

Definitely taking a wait and see approach. More hopeful than I anticipated as they did rattle off much of what I felt needed adjustment.

Honestly, it has everything to do with whether or not the new edition fills enough gaps for me. If they nail terrain and CP like they promised (admittedly by my own standards) and overhaul blast/template weapons, and as long as the new edition doesn’t make tanks (I’m looking at you Leman russes) overpowered as all hell, then most likely I’ll be in. I mean that is what I am looking for in the new edition.

I’ll get the book, but since I don’t play any of the focus factions I really don’t care about it.

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
The only people who aren't buying this edition are the people who don't play anyway.

Ah but the poll isn't about edition but the box. Plenty of people to whom the box isn't neccessary. For me this time it looks like it is but I didn't need to buy 4th, 6th, 7th or 8th ed boxes. If you have zero interest on either forces it's irrelevant.

So plenty of people who have very good reason to vote no.

Ill buy the rule book, I always do. Probably wont buy the box though.

Dang. Didn't realize the question was about the starter box. Can I change my answer to "no"? I'll definitely buy the rulebook, but I have no interest in Necrons or *gag* loyalist marines.

tneva82 wrote:

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
The only people who aren't buying this edition are the people who don't play anyway.

Ah but the poll isn't about edition but the box. Plenty of people to whom the box isn't neccessary. For me this time it looks like it is but I didn't need to buy 4th, 6th, 7th or 8th ed boxes. If you have zero interest on either forces it's irrelevant.

So plenty of people who have very good reason to vote no.

Maybe on the other hand you see a poll like this every time a new starter box is released, and realisticly the answer is always the same. you could get the exact same results by posting a poll that asks "do you play necrons and or space marines?"

Nah, don't really care about either side.

I'm not interested in any of the big marines or Necrons at all, but I'll prob buy the new starter and part it out on Ebay – will almost certainly work out cheaper than buying the core rulebook separately, and the 8th main book was a complete waste of time, so I don't wanna fork out full whack for this one.

No.

The models and hardcopy of the pointless mini-rules will be available on ebay dirt cheap so I might pick those up sometime later.

The inevitable hardback complete rulebook will be 'available' as soon as the digital version is released.

I'm a definite maybe. I haven't played since 8th dropped, though I bought the starter set. I haven't gone goo goo over Primaris, but I do kinda like the characters in the leaked photo.

Since I have the Dark Imperium box (untouched) I could start a Primaris army pretty easily, but I still have so many Oldmarines in my Pile of Shame.

I guess it will depend on how much it grabs my attention and motivates me to paint and start playing again.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
No.

The models and hardcopy of the pointless mini-rules will be available on ebay dirt cheap so I might pick those up sometime later.

The inevitable hardback complete rulebook will be 'available' as soon as the digital version is released.

Dark Imperium contained the full, hardback rulebook though.

 Arbitrator wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
No.

The models and hardcopy of the pointless mini-rules will be available on ebay dirt cheap so I might pick those up sometime later.

The inevitable hardback complete rulebook will be 'available' as soon as the digital version is released.

Dark Imperium contained the full, hardback rulebook though.

Did it? Got my copy cheap off ebay so I wouldn't know.

Doesn't change the fact that I'll be getting it from a non-direct source. If 8th is anything to go by, it will be basically invalid by the first major FAQ/CA anyway.

I’m definitely consider it but I’m waiting for the final announcement. I‘be always wanted to start a necron army, plus I can see the SM’s fitting into my Black Templar’s very easily. But it depends on cost and what the final content is.

BrianDavion wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
The only people who aren't buying this edition are the people who don't play anyway.

Ah but the poll isn't about edition but the box. Plenty of people to whom the box isn't neccessary. For me this time it looks like it is but I didn't need to buy 4th, 6th, 7th or 8th ed boxes. If you have zero interest on either forces it's irrelevant.

So plenty of people who have very good reason to vote no.

Maybe on the other hand you see a poll like this every time a new starter box is released, and realisticly the answer is always the same. you could get the exact same results by posting a poll that asks "do you play necrons and or space marines?"

Nono, as a Space Marine player I probably haven't bought a starter box since 3rd Ed.

I'm genuinely looking forward to a new edition, and will absolutely play it.

I have no plans to buy the new box though. If I did so, it'd be for the models, and I'm just not interested in either of the factions likely to be featured.

I'll get a hold of the necessary rules in some format or another down the line.

I'm cautiously optimistic, and will most likely buy the box unless its priced similiar to that new necromunda set, in which case I'll probably pass on it.

I never finished painting up my shadowspear, and I sold half of it. 8th edition 40k just kinda lost me after Kill Team appeared. Its the scale I prefer. If combat patrol is well designed, I may switch to that. but I do love these newcrons.

There needs to be some pretty sweeping changes for me to be interested in regular 40k any more.

Apocalypse has shown that the scale that 40k is at just doesn't work as well with model to model or model to unit interactions. Apocs pure unit to unit interaction is better, faster, less fiddly, and more fun. AA of some kind is a must.

I won't be picking up the boxed set. I'll pick up the rulebook, but as I don't play Necrons (and the insane complication of the models making them an unholy nightmare to paint kills my interest in doing so despite otherwise being very cool scuplts) and I don't play loyalist Space Marines, I don't have much interest in the starter (assuming its Necrons & SM's as it appears to be).

 Vaktathi wrote:
I won't be picking up the boxed set. I'll pick up the rulebook, but as I don't play Necrons (and the insane complication of the models making them an unholy nightmare to paint kills my interest in doing so despite otherwise being very cool scuplts) and I don't play loyalist Space Marines, I don't have much interest in the starter (assuming its Necrons & SM's as it appears to be).

It really depends on the models. I would say most of the range is actually pretty easy to paint. Most of the vehicles are not bad, the flyers are especially easy to paint. Then you have the other side of the spectrum with the Arks....

If what we have seen is the box contents, absolutely sign me up. I don't know who I'd parcel the marines out to (I have Ravenguard, Dark Angels and Deathwatch), and I don't have any Necrons. However, they'd make an easy OPFOR for my other armies and will probably paint up easy with Contrast.
Regardless, will certainly be playing 9th, no reason not to.

tneva82 wrote:
Ah but the poll isn't about edition but the box. Plenty of people to whom the box isn't neccessary. For me this time it looks like it is but I didn't need to buy 4th, 6th, 7th or 8th ed boxes. If you have zero interest on either forces it's irrelevant.

So plenty of people who have very good reason to vote no.

Ah, you didn't say the new boxed set in the title. You said the new edition, which I would assume is a rulebook (or a book that is 25% rules, the rest is artwork and fluff- and probably going for a cool $60.00).

As far as the box goes for me, I don't know. Not really prepared to go back to loyalists for a while. The Necrons are looking really good, so I might be interested- depending on how much comes in the box. I don't want another Shadowspear where I get a beta-test version of a unit and have to wait 6 months to get the actual models after a Codex redux.

 Sasori wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
I won't be picking up the boxed set. I'll pick up the rulebook, but as I don't play Necrons (and the insane complication of the models making them an unholy nightmare to paint kills my interest in doing so despite otherwise being very cool scuplts) and I don't play loyalist Space Marines, I don't have much interest in the starter (assuming its Necrons & SM's as it appears to be).

It really depends on the models. I would say most of the range is actually pretty easy to paint. Most of the vehicles are not bad, the flyers are especially easy to paint. Then you have the other side of the spectrum with the Arks....

Yeah, flyers aren't bad and the infantry and Destroyers are fine, it's the Arks, parts of the Barges, and the newer Gauss rods that just horrify me, and some of the newer models, while looking absolutely stunning, appear to be on something of the same path

I just got through dealing with a few dozen old metal GK Terminators with their extensive wraparound flowing scrolls, and that alone took more than the rest of the models did combined, increasingly I'm beginning to appreciate simplicity in models, it's also part of why I'm not a huge fan of the more ornate newer CSM models and the like.

If it really has fixed the core issues with the game then yeah I will if not then 9th will be the first Ed I have completely sat out of.

Now that Primaris are starting to look like marines again I am quite tempted.