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 Mr Morden wrote:
Tomb Kings are quite often mentioned in the background and their alligeince or otherwise to nagash varies:

https://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/wiki/Yaros is a good example

I would love for Tomb King to return but I do fear they would lose some of the old cool aesthetics if they were to be updated. There is also a chance that the Ossiarch Bonereapers might have shut the door on future Tomb King releases as they are strangely close aesthetically.

I'd love to see the Carrion King return and maybe create a power with some of the other Vampire Lords to resist some of the all consuming influence Nagash has over the realm.




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 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
I see that the Morathi book will be available as an eBook. That does annoy me. If 40K was still available as eBooks I’d have bought the rule book, space marine codex, Necron codex and preordered Death Watch by now.

I fear that when 3.0 hits we'll lose the option to buy AoS books as eBooks as well. This seems to be the path GW wants to take.

Even given her new-found revulsion for Slaanesh, actively becoming the God of Murder would seem out of character for her.

she seemingly had the most of a character growth arc of all the goofs that make up the survivors of Old world, it would be out of character for the pre-Slaanesh digested Morathi, not the post-digested one.

That would require them to redo app for aos though.

Wonder how much stormcast box costs. 109e individually and not that interesting units so need to save more than castigators for me to get it

lets hope for sensible discounts, not just 90% of box price...

 Overread wrote:
YES YES
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/11/01/sunday-preview-the-road-to-godhood/

It's all up for grabs next sunday! Shadow and Pain; the starter sets for the Cities of Sigmar, Stormcast, Idoneth and Slaves to Darkness themes and the Morathi book!

Now to await the price fairies to see what its all going to cost. Right now I'm down for at least one duel set and the Morathi book. I'd sort of like 2 of the set (since I collect both forces); but I'm not heavily pressured. At the very least this gets most of my November spending out of the way in the first week. Just got to wait for the 5th Gotrek and Felix Omnibus later this month

Meh. Those faction boxes are uninspired (basic dark elf infantry, 3xchariots, 2xsharks+seapony). At least, once I found them on the revolving thing on the broken realms page, no idea why they just didn't put the contents on the WarCom article...
Not quite sure how they'll tie these 'factions' into a narrative either.


Shadow and Pain would be a lot more appealing without those terrible marauders on steeds models.

Went to the Broken Realms site and from there to the AoS faction site and read this:

Lithe, cruel and swift of blade, the Daughters of Khaine are a religious order of matriarchal aelves hailing from Ulgu, the Realm of Shadow. They live for the thrill of open war and spilt blood, with a special hatred for the forces of Chaos. Led by the goddess Morathi, their many cults across the Mortal Realms revel in slaughter – and on the tabletop, the more blood they spill, the more dangerous they become.

So, yeah, she did it. Move along, folks. Nothing to see here.

I don’t know, she has always been very schemy and more often than not her plots and plans involved betrayal and murder of her allies and enemies.

Regardless, Her change into AOS has certainly severed her old ties to Slaanesh as a few centuries in his gullet has corrupted her body and made herself completely opposed to Slaanesh. Hence how she has become much more of a shadow queen in her latest incarnation - using bloodshed and plots to fuel her apotheosis. She uses the Heart of Khaine to protect herself and certainly empower her abilities - what’s to say the Heart is not changing her as well?

Damn, this might be the first time i ever get a limited version of gaming supplements.

 Dryaktylus wrote:
Went to the Broken Realms site and from there to the AoS faction site and read this:

Lithe, cruel and swift of blade, the Daughters of Khaine are a religious order of matriarchal aelves hailing from Ulgu, the Realm of Shadow. They live for the thrill of open war and spilt blood, with a special hatred for the forces of Chaos. Led by the goddess Morathi, their many cults across the Mortal Realms revel in slaughter – and on the tabletop, the more blood they spill, the more dangerous they become.

So, yeah, she did it. Move along, folks. Nothing to see here.

/shrug. Everybody else got to be a god anyway.
It doesn't seem to matter if they show up on the tabletop to get punched in the face or not, so...
It feels... kinda irrelevant?

Voss wrote:

 Overread wrote:
YES YES
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/11/01/sunday-preview-the-road-to-godhood/

It's all up for grabs next sunday! Shadow and Pain; the starter sets for the Cities of Sigmar, Stormcast, Idoneth and Slaves to Darkness themes and the Morathi book!

Now to await the price fairies to see what its all going to cost. Right now I'm down for at least one duel set and the Morathi book. I'd sort of like 2 of the set (since I collect both forces); but I'm not heavily pressured. At the very least this gets most of my November spending out of the way in the first week. Just got to wait for the 5th Gotrek and Felix Omnibus later this month

Meh. Those faction boxes are uninspired (basic dark elf infantry, 3xchariots, 2xsharks+seapony). At least, once I found them on the revolving thing on the broken realms page, no idea why they just didn't put the contents on the WarCom article...
Not quite sure how they'll tie these 'factions' into a narrative either.


Shadow and Pain would be a lot more appealing without those terrible marauders on steeds models.

I'm not a fan of the mortal riders either (its why its one of the few models I don't yet own); however a chance to get them at discount is good for me. Plus if you save up spare bodies from chariots the mount riders from them can fit onto regular seekers so you could likely get a few regular demons on seekers out of it .

Voss wrote:

 Dryaktylus wrote:
Went to the Broken Realms site and from there to the AoS faction site and read this:

Lithe, cruel and swift of blade, the Daughters of Khaine are a religious order of matriarchal aelves hailing from Ulgu, the Realm of Shadow. They live for the thrill of open war and spilt blood, with a special hatred for the forces of Chaos. Led by the goddess Morathi, their many cults across the Mortal Realms revel in slaughter – and on the tabletop, the more blood they spill, the more dangerous they become.

So, yeah, she did it. Move along, folks. Nothing to see here.

/shrug. Everybody else got to be a god anyway.
It doesn't seem to matter if they show up on the tabletop to get punched in the face or not, so...
It feels... kinda irrelevant?

Well getting both versions of her on the table at the same time for probably like 20% price increase matters somewhat

Khaine was god of more than just murder, there was way more depth than that. The Dark Elf interpretation of him was just one side of the coin. As for Morathi following Slaanesh, that was a thing in the retconned Storm of Chaos campaign. In End Times there was never any hint of her worshipping Slaanesh.


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Cronch wrote:

Even given her new-found revulsion for Slaanesh, actively becoming the God of Murder would seem out of character for her.

she seemingly had the most of a character growth arc of all the goofs that make up the survivors of Old world, it would be out of character for the pre-Slaanesh digested Morathi, not the post-digested one.

It is pretty in-line with her power-hungry self in End Times: Khaine.

As I recall Khaine also had a lot of rules on murder, it had to be done in certain ways and to certain standards. He was never about just mindless slaughter.

The DoK I think have abandoned some of those teachings as they've given themselves almost fully into the blood magic; then again Morathi is purely after power and Khaine is reduced to an Iron Heart.

 Overread wrote:
As I recall Khaine also had a lot of rules on murder, it had to be done in certain ways and to certain standards. He was never about just mindless slaughter.

The DoK I think have abandoned some of those teachings as they've given themselves almost fully into the blood magic; then again Morathi is purely after power and Khaine is reduced to an Iron Heart.

Khaine did not seem to speak much to his worshippers in the Warhammer World and most was different interpretations - even then for thousands of years, Morathi was the chosen of Khaine (and Slaanesh and other gods) - she was the one with the Culdrons and only she was eternally renewed by them much to the chargain of Helleborn and others who were true believers in Khaine.

Morathi was always power hungry with her love for Anarion and to a lesser extent their son being some of the few selfish elements of her character.

The Witch Elves were all about the blood frenzy/killing. Always have been If anything the AOS version is civilised - alhought thats one main kult tasked with providing the public face of the DoK.

 Overread wrote:
As I recall Khaine also had a lot of rules on murder, it had to be done in certain ways and to certain standards. He was never about just mindless slaughter.

The DoK I think have abandoned some of those teachings as they've given themselves almost fully into the blood magic; then again Morathi is purely after power and Khaine is reduced to an Iron Heart.

He was the God of Murder (at least for the Dark Elves), and this was explicitly identified as one of the reasons why he was separate and distinct from Khorne.

Presumably the Witch Elf frenzies on the battlefield managed to fit within that description even in the Old World.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Khaine was god of more than just murder, there was way more depth than that. The Dark Elf interpretation of him was just one side of the coin. As for Morathi following Slaanesh, that was a thing in the retconned Storm of Chaos campaign. In End Times there was never any hint of her worshipping Slaanesh.


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Cronch wrote:

Even given her new-found revulsion for Slaanesh, actively becoming the God of Murder would seem out of character for her.

she seemingly had the most of a character growth arc of all the goofs that make up the survivors of Old world, it would be out of character for the pre-Slaanesh digested Morathi, not the post-digested one.

It is pretty in-line with her power-hungry self in End Times: Khaine.

It was in her background from the start she was rescued from a Slaaneshi warband but there was suspicion she was not really a captive.

She started and ran the Pleasure Cults in Ulthuan and later in Naggaroth - now was that for Atharti (goddess of pleasure and seduction) or for Slaanesh - not sure.

Voss wrote:

Not quite sure how they'll tie these 'factions' into a narrative either.

The Stormcast and the Cities of Sigmar units are both from the city of Anvilgard.

The others don't have an obvious connection without seeing the lore.

What I would really like to see is Morathi expect herself to ascend as a Goddess of Shadow - but end up as the Goddess of Murder instead. She is highly capable with the powers of Ulgu and goes out of her way to build Temples on fonts of Ulgu realm magic - but we know Malerion is the true God of the Shadow Realm.

A way Ulgu subverts Morathi's ambitions and influence is when Doomfire Warlocks are born - Ulgu magic seeks out male Khainanites and imbues some with mastery over it - which Morathi takes offense to and brands all of her Doomfire Warlocks with runes that gives her control over them should they try to rebel.

Its just a theory but I feel either Malerion or the Realm-Spirit of Ulgu is going to throw a wrench into Morathi's plans one way or another...

Eumerin wrote:

Voss wrote:

Not quite sure how they'll tie these 'factions' into a narrative either.

The Stormcast and the Cities of Sigmar units are both from the city of Anvilgard.

The others don't have an obvious connection without seeing the lore.

The Idoneth King is from Ionrach and a trusted second to Volturnos, who has...issues with Morathi.

I am excited for the big box to be released. I’ve been after one hellstrider whip and one sword arm for a long time! Hopefully bits suppliers will be selling!

Interesting that they are pushing another Slaanesh box after how well Wrath and Rapture did.

Wrath & Rapture was just chaos stuff.

Slaanesh as an army is in a veeeeery different place now. And DoK have remained strong.

 Overread wrote:

Voss wrote:

 Overread wrote:
YES YES
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/11/01/sunday-preview-the-road-to-godhood/

It's all up for grabs next sunday! Shadow and Pain; the starter sets for the Cities of Sigmar, Stormcast, Idoneth and Slaves to Darkness themes and the Morathi book!

Now to await the price fairies to see what its all going to cost. Right now I'm down for at least one duel set and the Morathi book. I'd sort of like 2 of the set (since I collect both forces); but I'm not heavily pressured. At the very least this gets most of my November spending out of the way in the first week. Just got to wait for the 5th Gotrek and Felix Omnibus later this month

Meh. Those faction boxes are uninspired (basic dark elf infantry, 3xchariots, 2xsharks+seapony). At least, once I found them on the revolving thing on the broken realms page, no idea why they just didn't put the contents on the WarCom article...
Not quite sure how they'll tie these 'factions' into a narrative either.


Shadow and Pain would be a lot more appealing without those terrible marauders on steeds models.

I'm not a fan of the mortal riders either (its why its one of the few models I don't yet own); however a chance to get them at discount is good for me. Plus if you save up spare bodies from chariots the mount riders from them can fit onto regular seekers so you could likely get a few regular demons on seekers out of it .

I for one kind like the hellstriders.
I would like to have a (regular/not mutated) version of them with swords and shields.
They have been the only (granted half) half mortals we have for Slaanesh for years.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Eumerin wrote:

Voss wrote:

Not quite sure how they'll tie these 'factions' into a narrative either.

The Stormcast and the Cities of Sigmar units are both from the city of Anvilgard.

The others don't have an obvious connection without seeing the lore.

The Idoneth King is from Ionrach and a trusted second to Volturnos, who has...issues with Morathi.

To be fair a lot of people have issues with the Idoneth stealing souls - including the Sylvaneth and DoK - where is the specific issue between the King and Morathi?

As long as the Morathi book doesn't end in a status quo or a fething cliffhanger leaving all events described in the book unresolved, I'll be happy.

If Morathi does indeed become a goddess at the end of the book, that's already not PA material.

As for Khaine, he always was the God of Murder, War and Wrath for the elves. There is a (good) reason why High Elves forbid his cult along with the other "dark elven gods" in the World that Was - even if he was part of the elven pantheon.

Khaine was never a subtle god.

 Egyptian Space Zombie wrote:
Interesting that they are pushing another Slaanesh box after how well Wrath and Rapture did.

I find it hard to tell if Wrath and Rapture really sold badly or if GW just flooded their own market with way too much because it was joint 40K and AoS and so produced way more behind the scenes. It might be its sold as well/better than some of hte other duel boxes. I'd also note that it probably would have done a bit better if GW hadn't doubled down on basically making the AoS Slaanesh tome into just wanting to take Keepers of Secrets and the odd other leader.

Good to see Morathi and the battle box go up for pre-order next. Will be interesting to see prices for the latter and those other themed boxes.

 Egyptian Space Zombie wrote:
Interesting that they are pushing another Slaanesh box after how well Wrath and Rapture did.

That just means we can pin any failure of Wrath and Rupture on those red dullards.

So. Monday. Stores should be having order sheets? Where's the price leaks!

the box is 140 euros.