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Funimation and CrunchyRoll have their own streaming. Funimation is $6 at its cheapest so GW can't be any more than that.

dogboy311 wrote:
I read these type of threads, and wonder what can GW do too make the super nerds happy? Nothing apparently,,like so what it’s a paid service. Tons of people are amped up for this in my neck of the woods. Like they have hired some of the best you tubers that have been making 40K fan fiction, witch people on here were in love with. But GW does the best thing and hires them, and still you super nerds keep complaining. I hope this service is successful so I can get top quality 40K and AOS animation. For those that won’t, we get it you can feel good about it,, but stop complaining and move on.

Like Slipspace said, that's pretty disingenuous. The people who are not excited have all listed either personal taste reasons (not caring for the type of previews they've seen) which is fair game, and/or listed really specific concerns based on GW's historical behavior. Which is also a pretty solid concern to have. The closest analogue we have so far is the app, which was an utter disaster at launch. Over priced and completely broken. Hard to get excited for a "tech" type of thing like streaming given GW's track record with 40k and this type of thing. That's pretty reasonable.

Threatening people into working with you isn't exactly the same as "hiring" them either, and frankly, calling people who have listed pretty legit concerns as "super nerds" seems way more counter-productive than any of the problems you complained about in your post.

I wish I could be excited. I HOPE it comes out and proves me wrong. I HOPE it comes out at a reasonable price (for the initial content I could see a trial price of $5.99, eventually going up to a more standard price like $10 once they hit a certain subscriber threshold). I HOPE the content is awesome, engaging, and they keep up with it. I HOPE the animators they essentially strong-armed into working for them are making proper money for their positions. I HOPE all this happens. I am not optimistic that it will based on prior history.

- Super Nerd

Funimation and CrunchyRoll have their own streaming. Funimation is $6 at its cheapest so GW can't be any more than that.

Similar was said prior to the AppPocolypse. I love your optimism though. Hopefully they take note of the market, rather than engaging in the typical navel-gazing they are often guilty of.

@dogboy311 -

So anyone who disagrees with you is a closet dwelling troll? I'm not sure how well that statement jives with "I'm an optimistic, glass half full kind of person?"

I mean yeah, if someone had come on here with the crazy "GW IS EVIL AND THIS IS A MONEY GRUBBING CONSPIRACY TO XYZ" like we see with the legit haters, then I'd be like "Oh yeah - closet dwelling troll." Haven't seen too much of that in this thread though.

I see some people who are excited and some who aren't. I'm not sure what's wrong with that? lol

Do you have anything constructive to add, Dogboy? Or are you just crapping on people for no reason?

For me, I'm a solid "No". I like 40k, but I'm not so invested that I'd pay money for animations and whatnot involving it. I do wish the content creators the best, but it's not my jam.

It would be cool if they battle reports of the battles at their tournaments and put that in the streaming service. Much like how covenant used to do it for XWing. They would need to heavily edit them because the speed of game between the two games is apples and oranges.

For me, I'm a solid "No". I like 40k, but I'm not so invested that I'd pay money for animations and whatnot involving it. I do wish the content creators the best, but it's not my jam.

I know a lot of people who I would have thought would be over the moon about this, but just aren't. I'm curious, in your case - do you read the novels or engage in any of the other "fluff" channels? I enjoy a lot of the books myself, but just can't get pumped for this just yet.

Tycho wrote:

For me, I'm a solid "No". I like 40k, but I'm not so invested that I'd pay money for animations and whatnot involving it. I do wish the content creators the best, but it's not my jam.

I know a lot of people who I would have thought would be over the moon about this, but just aren't. I'm curious, in your case - do you read the novels or engage in any of the other "fluff" channels? I enjoy a lot of the books myself, but just can't get pumped for this just yet.

Nope. I mostly learn about the setting via osmosis.

Nope. I mostly learn about the setting via osmosis.

I tried that once. Think it's why I never learned math ...

Tycho wrote:

For me, I'm a solid "No". I like 40k, but I'm not so invested that I'd pay money for animations and whatnot involving it. I do wish the content creators the best, but it's not my jam.

I know a lot of people who I would have thought would be over the moon about this, but just aren't. I'm curious, in your case - do you read the novels or engage in any of the other "fluff" channels? I enjoy a lot of the books myself, but just can't get pumped for this just yet.

Are you kidding? Astartes was an awesome clip of youtube videos. I loved it. Now I wont be seeing any more videos like that without paying for a GW subscription - which is going to be seriously lacking compared to other streaming services. Sure this has a lot of potential but I KNOW GW wont even come close to meeting that potential and it's not going to be worth it for an occasional video I used to get for free.

 JNAProductions wrote:

Tycho wrote:

For me, I'm a solid "No". I like 40k, but I'm not so invested that I'd pay money for animations and whatnot involving it. I do wish the content creators the best, but it's not my jam.

I know a lot of people who I would have thought would be over the moon about this, but just aren't. I'm curious, in your case - do you read the novels or engage in any of the other "fluff" channels? I enjoy a lot of the books myself, but just can't get pumped for this just yet.

Nope. I mostly learn about the setting via osmosis.

And now I'm imaging you sitting in a pile of books in bed every night, slowly absorbing them into yourself, becoming one with the lore in ways the rest of us could never dream of...

OT re: the app issues - I assume no one's heard who, specifically, is developing the app yet? I doubt the people they hired to do the 40k app would count as "a big name in VOD content".

Are you kidding? Astartes was an awesome clip of youtube videos. I loved it. Now I wont be seeing any more videos like that without paying for a GW subscription - which is going to be seriously lacking compared to other streaming services. Sure this has a lot of potential but I KNOW GW wont even come close to meeting that potential and it's not going to be worth it for an occasional video I used to get for free.

Kidding about which part? I'm not super pumped about it at all, but I know some people who are in the "GW has not and cannot do anything wrong" die-hard fanboy camp, and even they aren't excited. lol

My concern is that GW is going to use this as the leading edge of a wave of new C&Ds

"We have a battle rep on our streaming service, therefore all battle reps on youtube need to be taken down"

"We have a painting tutorial on our streming service, therefore all painting tutorials on youtube need to be taken down"

Etc.

Tycho wrote:

Are you kidding? Astartes was an awesome clip of youtube videos. I loved it. Now I wont be seeing any more videos like that without paying for a GW subscription - which is going to be seriously lacking compared to other streaming services. Sure this has a lot of potential but I KNOW GW wont even come close to meeting that potential and it's not going to be worth it for an occasional video I used to get for free.

Kidding about which part? I'm not super pumped about it at all, but I know some people who are in the "GW has not and cannot do anything wrong" die-hard fanboy camp, and even they aren't excited. lol

Well I am sure they were pretty happy with free Warhammer content too. It is only natural to be annoyed you have to pay for what used to be free.

 ScarletRose wrote:
My concern is that GW is going to use this as the leading edge of a wave of new C&Ds

"We have a battle rep on our streaming service, therefore all battle reps on youtube need to be taken down"

"We have a painting tutorial on our streming service, therefore all painting tutorials on youtube need to be taken down"

Etc.

Won't happen and neither of those would be a legitimate C&D even if you can make Youtube take anything down.

Hey kids, removed some offending posts and warnings have been issued. Stay on topic, remain polite, next person to ignore this gets a vacation.

Won't happen and neither of those would be a legitimate C&D even if you can make Youtube take anything down.

The legitimacy doesn't really matter in most cases. Size of your bank account is what matters. And YouTube doesn't have anything to do with it either. They don't even have to contact YouTube. It's pretty trivial for them to just reach out and say "Yeah no. You gotta stop doing this or else ...." to the individual channels. You know ... like they've already done. Several times ...

I agree they probably won't do this with Bat Reps as it puts them in a weird place for several different reasons, but I do worry about some of the lore channels. I could see some of those getting some attention in light of this. I hope not, but ....

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 ScarletRose wrote:
My concern is that GW is going to use this as the leading edge of a wave of new C&Ds

"We have a battle rep on our streaming service, therefore all battle reps on youtube need to be taken down"

"We have a painting tutorial on our streming service, therefore all painting tutorials on youtube need to be taken down"

Etc.

Won't happen and neither of those would be a legitimate C&D even if you can make Youtube take anything down.

From the company that thinks they own the concept of "space marine"? Yeah, no, these are as likely as anything and the abusive copyright claim system youtube has in place is going to allow it.

 ScarletRose wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 ScarletRose wrote:
My concern is that GW is going to use this as the leading edge of a wave of new C&Ds

"We have a battle rep on our streaming service, therefore all battle reps on youtube need to be taken down"

"We have a painting tutorial on our streming service, therefore all painting tutorials on youtube need to be taken down"

Etc.

Won't happen and neither of those would be a legitimate C&D even if you can make Youtube take anything down.

From the company that thinks they own the concept of "space marine"? Yeah, no, these are as likely as anything and the abusive copyright claim system youtube has in place is going to allow it.

Poppycock!

 ScarletRose wrote:
From the company that thinks they own the concept of "space marine"? Yeah, no, these are as likely as anything and the abusive copyright claim system youtube has in place is going to allow it.

Taking something down for the use of "Space Marine" is not the same as someone using a company's product in a video.

 ScarletRose wrote:
My concern is that GW is going to use this as the leading edge of a wave of new C&Ds

"We have a battle rep on our streaming service, therefore all battle reps on youtube need to be taken down"

"We have a painting tutorial on our streming service, therefore all painting tutorials on youtube need to be taken down"

Etc.

Such videos help sales as they are essentially free adverts for their products. If GW was to be that stupid then I'm sure FlashGitz would have another field day with them...

 Daedalus81 wrote:
Funimation and CrunchyRoll have their own streaming. Funimation is $6 at its cheapest so GW can't be any more than that.

Sounds like a challenge.

I know we are all mostly grongards here but a 9% positive engagement looks a bit on the light side... Id be sweating if I was whoever signed this off

I know we are all mostly grongards here but a 9% positive engagement looks a bit on the light side... Id be sweating if I was whoever signed this off

They should definitely have consulted with Dakka first. I think that's the root of most of their issues frankly. They need to start bringing us in on this stuff much earlier.

SamusDrake wrote:

 ScarletRose wrote:
My concern is that GW is going to use this as the leading edge of a wave of new C&Ds

"We have a battle rep on our streaming service, therefore all battle reps on youtube need to be taken down"

"We have a painting tutorial on our streming service, therefore all painting tutorials on youtube need to be taken down"

Etc.

Such videos help sales as they are essentially free adverts for their products. If GW was to be that stupid then I'm sure FlashGitz would have another field day with them...

Now, Flashgitz field days... that might be worth money!

 Argive wrote:
I know we are all mostly grongards here but a 9% positive engagement looks a bit on the light side... Id be sweating if I was whoever signed this off

GW making completely asinine ideas that most people are highly dubious of a reality ? Sounds like a day ending in Y to me boys.

While we are at it, let's increase the cost of flayed ones to 75$ USD, oh that is the good spot there.

 jeff white wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:

 ScarletRose wrote:
My concern is that GW is going to use this as the leading edge of a wave of new C&Ds

"We have a battle rep on our streaming service, therefore all battle reps on youtube need to be taken down"

"We have a painting tutorial on our streming service, therefore all painting tutorials on youtube need to be taken down"

Etc.

Such videos help sales as they are essentially free adverts for their products. If GW was to be that stupid then I'm sure FlashGitz would have another field day with them...

Now, Flashgitz field days... that might be worth money!

The sad part, i can imagine GW attempting to pull that one...

 Xenomancers wrote:

Tycho wrote:

Are you kidding? Astartes was an awesome clip of youtube videos. I loved it. Now I wont be seeing any more videos like that without paying for a GW subscription - which is going to be seriously lacking compared to other streaming services. Sure this has a lot of potential but I KNOW GW wont even come close to meeting that potential and it's not going to be worth it for an occasional video I used to get for free.

Kidding about which part? I'm not super pumped about it at all, but I know some people who are in the "GW has not and cannot do anything wrong" die-hard fanboy camp, and even they aren't excited. lol

Well I am sure they were pretty happy with free Warhammer content too. It is only natural to be annoyed you have to pay for what used to be free.

Hum. My personal issue is that the time that I can use to watch stuff that's definitely not suited for children is limited, and some of that time I will spend differently anyways.
So for example it took me almost two years to finish all the episodes of The Expanse which is probably rather tame compared to anything set in the 40k universe, but mature enough to cause nightmares to small kids.

For that reason I would totally pay similar money to a series available on amazon (~$25) to see a season of astartes or Eisenhorn, but paying a subscription for something only I would use in my family a few times a month is just not a good return of investment to me.

Of course, I would prefer them just streaming it on netflix or amazon prime, because then I would get it for "free" and they would still get their moneys

Tycho wrote:

I know we are all mostly grongards here but a 9% positive engagement looks a bit on the light side... Id be sweating if I was whoever signed this off

They should definitely have consulted with Dakka first. I think that's the root of most of their issues frankly. They need to start bringing us in on this stuff much earlier.

Imagine if they could even get an overall "it's good" consensus on Dakka. Not by listening to the users I mean, god no. But just in general. You'd officially have the best tabletop wargame of all time.

 jeff white wrote:


Now, Flashgitz field days... that might be worth money!

"Space Marine...Space Marines". Those guys were ahead of their time.

Maybe they'll hold merge Warhammer tv stuff into it.