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Fifty wrote:((ooc, but now we know who one of the 'stealers is, right? *sighs* Even if we win, we can't enjoy it))

I wouldn't beat yourself up on this concept, and here's why;

Prior to posting the PM Vulkan clearly stated - "I am the Inquisitor, Drk_O is a Genestealer"

As soon as that was posted there was absolutely zero way that you guys were not going to lynch one of them - because either Vulkan is telling the truth and was an Inquisitor so Drk_O should be lynched, or Vulkan was lying and wasn't an Inquisitor so that he should be lynched since he's either a Genestealer or a lying townie. So as soon as Vulkan posted that comment either he or Drk_O were going to be lynched on Day 3.

When he broke the rules I modkilled him - in effect I made the decision about who to lynch. This punished town because I destroyed their ability to have conversation for part of Day 3, denied them the ability to see who would have voted to lynch Vulkan, and also I chose the less advantageous lynch choice for you. So if you want to think of the game as still fair simply pretend that nobody believed Vulkan (a not unlikely scenario considering how things looked for him) and you all voted for Vulkan and then forgot who did that voting. The game was going to be tougher for the Stealers as soon as Vulkan managed to investigate one of them anyway - do not think a town win is tainted because of this, it is not.

Just a reminder - Night 3 will end in a little over 24 hours - if you want your night actions to count make sure they are PMed to me.

It had all seemed to make a lot of sense when you had all gone to bed. After all, why lynch somebody when a giant bolt of lightning had come down from above and deep fried Vulkan? That was sort of like shooting somebody, right? Still, it kind of seems stupid at this point.

His eyes gouged from his head and his body impaled upon a spiked pole jammed up through his unmentionables. A sign is attached to his chest by his own field dagger, and carries a simple message “You aren’t even close…”

Lord-Loss, loyal imperial citizen, is dead.

You all glance at each other suspiciously, somebody isn’t going to make it to sunset.
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Day 4 Countdown Timer

So yeah... now that we know DarkO is a stealer, that throws a kink in everything! I'd bet dollars to donuts that it's him and GND/DD in things together. That would explain GND's comment earlier and DarkO's late switch onto LotG. Otherwise why would he make that switch?

(OOC:: Now I feel better about my "scumdar." Until DarkO made the switch onto LotG, I was really thinking him to be scum, but backed off after he threw LotG under the bus. However, Vulkan's investigation shows that I shoulda stuck with my first instincts.)

Gornall, I wouldn't be so quick to jump to a conclusion. I know the evidence stacked against me is damning, especially with a so-called quoted PM from a Thor665.



During the course of the night, I investigated this letter intensively. It, quite obviously, is a complete fabrication. Such acts of fraudulance are fairly easy. An Ork can even do it. Even I can do it!! I infact have an example of such fabrications. This one is less obvious though.

From:Zeus776
To: Drk_Oblitr8r
Date: Mon, 31/Feb/1337 01:23:45am
Subject: Bake Sale
Greetings,

I cannot find the cookies you baked. Are you sure you left them here?
I've got the cupcakes ready, I just need to finish the icing.

We just have the cake left and then we should be ready. The sales on friday, right?

He even had a motive. It should be even MORE obvious than the fake PM he made.

Would could go with that, or we could kill you, I mean he was the Inquisitor, a silly one at that but still.


Dead loyalist or genestealer doesn't seem to matter much, we are all gonna die on this rock.

tbh, I'm very suprised that PM didn't get me killed, since it makes me the least suspicious of us.

BrotherStynier wrote:Would could go with that, or we could kill you, I mean he was the Inquisitor, a silly one at that but still.


Dead loyalist or genestealer doesn't seem to matter much, we are all gonna die on this rock.

We all will die unless we find the Genestealers. This jungle should have some meat or fruit that we could eat to sustain us. We might be lucky to live long enough to die of old age.

Arheiner wrote:tbh, I'm very suprised that PM didn't get me killed, since it makes me the least suspicious of us.

(OOC: You didn't post the PM, Vulkan did. I doubt the genestealers will let you die, until they kill me, if you die and it turns out you're a Genestealer, then I wouldn't be lynched today)

Vote: Dork_Oblitr8r

The PM. Nuff said.

Arheiner wrote:Vote: Dork_Oblitr8r

The PM. Nuff said.

(OOC: I see what you did there. Better watch out )



I see.



My deductive skills inform me, that it's very likely that you are an Innocent Imperial. I stand by my point that the PM is a fraud. I know it seems like Arheiner(I just realised it's not Arhnheiner) being innocent would proove that it's anything more than a fake. But it does not.



I know this, because I happened to block all Night 1 events on Dark Lord Seanron, who now happens to be Arheiner.

Faced with death I am forced to reveal myself. I, am an Imperial Psyker. I know revealing oneself super pro town role is normally suicide, but, as I said, the reaper is hungry, and my soul is on the menu.

Night 1, I blocked all Night activities on Dark Lord Seanron, because I wasn't sure of his role, but he deffinately seemed to be pro town.
Night 2, I protected Vulkan himself, I had learnt that Vulkan was the Inquisitor. He gave us all a slight "waving his arms yelling at us" that he was.

Vulkan_He'stan wrote:any one want me to answer any questions ????

(from pg26)
The rest of you thought "Egads, trying to get our trust much?" I don't get these little nods, nobody gets them. I had been combing for an Inquisitor all day 2. I said at least 80 nods insisting I was the Inquisitor, knowing the Inquisitor would have voted for me. Not that they did at all. I wasn't sure there was even an Inquisitor, but the advice for Psykers advised I search for one.
Night 3 I protected Gornall. With the Inquisitor dead, I was sure Gornall would help reveal the truth. But it seems he's given up on me already. I'm sure he'll find the last two Genestealers. I just hope he lives to the end.



In anycase, I mentioned before that I knew why Vulkan lied to say I was anti Imperial. I'm not sure but it's possible he hadn't had any sucess with his investigations. It's possible that in an ironic twist of fate, everyone he's investigated have died. That would be some ironic irony!

Having examined this so-called fake PM, I will say that if it is fake it has been done very well.

From how I see it, you're just a genestealer trying as hard as it can to cover its tracks in front of incriminating evidence.

Vote: Drk_Oblitr8r

EDIT: On the other hand, having looked at Thor's message, 'it was an absolute breach of the rules to quote a real or pretend PM from me'.
That's the first time anyone's mentioned this being fake. This is probably a little outside the box, and either way it's trifling evidence, but still something to bear in mind.

Mekboy wrote:Having examined this so-called fake PM, I will say that if it is fake it has been done very well.

From how I see it, you're just a genestealer trying as hard as it can to cover its tracks in front of incriminating evidence.

Vote: Drk_Oblitr8r

EDIT: On the other hand, having looked at Thor's message, 'it was an absolute breach of the rules to quote a real or pretend PM from me'.
That's the first time anyone's mentioned this being fake. This is probably a little outside the box, and either way it's trifling evidence, but still something to bear in mind.

One thing that caught my eye was in the subject line. I'm not going to quote it, but you'll see that a capital letter that should be there isn't.

I don't expect to make it to make it to night, I've already written my "I told you so". I'm having more trouble trying to see how Vulkan was thinking logically before he was struck by lightning, than defending myself.

Nope, the Re: in the subject line should have a capitol R in it.

"I must agree with Mekboy and Arheiner, you seem to be a genestealer now trying very hard to work against the evidence given and present yourself as a citizen."

Vote: Drk_O

"Vulkan was, in all fairness to him, a rather bumbling inquisitor. I doubt whether he would have been crafty enough to fake such evidence."

At the risk of making myself seem like Drk_O's partner, and therefore a target myself, why are we killing him yet?

After all, we know he is a 'stealer withreasonable certainty, unless Vulkan was completely nuts.

Why not leave him alone for now and keep trying to find his partner? He can't afford to stop talking.

Of course, if we doubt Vulkan, for any reason, we ought to go with Dark_O now just to make sure, but that will make it harder to find the remaining 'stealer.

We are unlucky to have lost Lord-Loss, as he seemed to be thinking logically. I am surprised he didn't got offed sooner, to be honest. He and EF were making sense.

If I assume Vulkan to be correct, I now have to assume Arheiner to be a good guy, and my earlier suspicions of DLS were off. I am trusting fewer and fewer people though. Deff Dredd has done nothing to earn my trust, I still have no feelings either way about RustyKnight. Gornall seems "too-good-to-be-true", which is an unfair judgement, I know. I still don't like BrotherStynier after his reaction to me, but I am not sure if I trust him or not.

That leaves me suspecting gnd/dd still, but with less conviction than before.

I now have a strong suspicion of one other person in particular, based on the vote above, which is Mekboy. It is nothing too strong though, as he coudl easily have honestly wanted to get rid of the 'stealer.

Well, I started typing my previous post before seeing Deff Dredd's post immediately prior to it, but it doesn't mean much to me.

I feel like we will be wasting this day phase if we all just jump on a Drk_O bandwagon without looking at other people first.

Yeah... we don't want to pull the trigger just yet. Let's take advantage of the day to talk about who we think his partner is and lynch him later in the day. He does need to die today though.

Ye Olde Vote Accounting


0 - Mekboy
0 - BrotherStynier
0 - Deff Dread red Edition
0 - Fifty
0 - Rusty Knight
3 - Drk_O (Arheiner Mekboy Deff Dread red Edition)
0 - Dastardly Dave
0 - Arheiner
0 - Gornall

0 - No Lynch

Not Voting: Drk_O Fifty Dastardly Dave BrotherStynier Gornall

Rusty Knight

With 9 alive it is 5 to Lynch
If the deadline were to hit now - Drk_O would be lynched
Deadline countdown

Unvote: Drk_O

That way we can makes sure that Drk_O and the other stealer don't vote for him and end our day.

OOC: back from my holiday, and I certainately wasn't expecting a modkill, and that message on the body, it makes me very interested to see the outcome of this game.

IC: Gornall, I appreciate why you're suspicious of me, my predescessor was quiet and made a weird comment, but what about looking at my posts, after all, if I was a genestealer, I probably would have started acting suscpisiously by now, unless I was really good (I'm not).
Also, I accept your bet .(I accept cash, in GBP)

Mekboy wrote:Unvote: Drk_O

That way we can makes sure that Drk_O and the other stealer don't vote for him and end our day.

As far as the other genestealer goes, Mekboy, that last post doesn't make any sense, you are unvoting Drk_O so that Dark_O and the other 'stealer can't vote for him? Why would Drk_O vote for himself, it's effectively an admission of guilt and he has already stated he is Innoccent (not that anyone believes him). It makes me feel like you are trying to make yourself seem innocent by unvoting him.

Drk_O, its a little convenient that you reveal yourself to be the Pysker now isn't it, it looks more like a ruse to get yourself off the hook (or the noose).

I'm fairly certain that the PM isn't a forgery, or at least not a total forgery.

As for you DD, we can't just forget about all of GND's posts. Plus, you never voted once yesterday. All you did was muse about neutral things. That's not really indicative one way or the other, but it could point towards an effort to avoid attracting suspicion. Or maybe you just don't like to be confrontational.

Drk_O could vote for himself in order to try and force a sooner night phase. That would make it more difficult to ferret out his partner.

I do see one positive to this whole thing; I'm obviously not in cahoots with Fifty. :lol:

DD, Drk O may vote for hismelf to end the day, meaning we get less time to talk.

Yes, RustyKnight and I are definitely not the 'stealer team together, so if you were hanging your hats on us seeming a bit too chummy, then that theory is out of the window!

I still can't figure out why DarkO and LotG both voted for GND... then DarkO switched off of GND to seal the lynch on LotG. What the deuce?

Dastardly Dave wrote:

Mekboy wrote:Unvote: Drk_O

That way we can makes sure that Drk_O and the other stealer don't vote for him and end our day.

As far as the other genestealer goes, Mekboy, that last post doesn't make any sense, you are unvoting Drk_O so that Dark_O and the other 'stealer can't vote for him? Why would Drk_O vote for himself, it's effectively an admission of guilt and he has already stated he is Innoccent (not that anyone believes him). It makes me feel like you are trying to make yourself seem innocent by unvoting him.

Drk_O, its a little convenient that you reveal yourself to be the Pysker now isn't it, it looks more like a ruse to get yourself off the hook (or the noose).

Psykers never live long once they reveal themselves. It seems I am merely revealing who I am before Thor does. The truth will come out, at least in death, I know being murdered will reveal the truth.

Mekboy wrote:Nope, the Re: in the subject line should have a capitol R in it.

I meant the "G" in Genestealer. Thor would have used a capital there

Mekboy wrote:DD, Drk O may vote for hismelf to end the day, meaning we get less time to talk.

Talk. Don't talk. Our words are the blade, that slices our own neck.

Fifty wrote:Yes, RustyKnight and I are definitely not the 'stealer team together, so if you were hanging your hats on us seeming a bit too chummy, then that theory is out of the window!

SHHH THEY'RE ONTO YOU!!!

Gornall wrote:I still can't figure out why DarkO and LotG both voted for GND... then DarkO switched off of GND to seal the lynch on LotG. What the deuce?

I vote for who I think are Genestealers. If I were a Genestealer, I would want them to live. I therefore would not vote for him. I can say I do miss the guy, for a Genestealer, he was a funny young Space Marine.

Would you stop with the damned gifs already.

BrotherStynier wrote:Would you stop with the damned gifs already.

(OOC:Sorry, I was trying to add more character. They all come from the same page though, so blocking one should block them all)

Gornall wrote:I still can't figure out why DarkO and LotG both voted for GND... then DarkO switched off of GND to seal the lynch on LotG. What the deuce?

"Hmmm... which one of my genestealer buddies do I want to lose, GND, or LotG? I think I'd rather lose LotG..."

Fifty wrote:

Gornall wrote:I still can't figure out why DarkO and LotG both voted for GND... then DarkO switched off of GND to seal the lynch on LotG. What the deuce?

"Hmmm... which one of my genestealer buddies do I want to lose, GND, or LotG? I think I'd rather lose LotG..."

But if GND is a stealer (which I suspect him to be), why did they put him in danger to begin with?