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How much tea will the small one hold?

to be honest about the phoenix mug i would like to see a bit more detail here... maybe its an angle thing but the look a bit strange to me, maybe its because of the icon and me ahve a bit of a history...
could you add some lines on the wings or break up the formation of the bird structure so that wings and body are not of one piece?
the batwings on the flying skull look very good tho i must say i am not completly sold on the skull...looks something akward to me, tho the eyesockets look very good, its the teeth that i think look kind of wron to me....

but with both designs i think your onto something good, despite my bloody critics^^

cheers, vik

the second one your on about is mine.... Vic can you go to my http://brigannion4.blogspot.com/ blog and tell me what you think please?

ok miss dee, was surfing in your site and i saw what you´ve meant. your skull looks different from the one weety made in my opinion.
please bear in mind all that when i give criticism i only try to help...

the wings should acording to miss dees original be quite longer and slimmer...
also not with so much a wide "bow"?
and the mentioned skulls teeth should be more detailed and i think should genareally one or two mm longer...
also the former cheekbones of the skull should be more pointy...
and maybe its a light problem but i can gardly see the horns... yours miss dee has at least four of them?...

did this help?
hope that didn´t hurt cause i don´t feel good when writing something neagtive about work of people i came to like^^

vik

I ment the top post mate

i couldnt post there as i have no usable account to post, do you refer to the head problem with the baneblade?

Thanks bunnygurl

as for the rest o yer BAH! bunch of perfectionists. The medium of clay has inherent limitations which prevent perfection. One has to work fast as clay tends to dry with to much handling. Better can be done but only with casting from real life objects or possibly a massive amount of time and effort and that dont come cheap. On the other hand von dom, yours was quite simple to do as it was a very simple design but if you want me to complexify it a little that can be done tomorrow before it drys.
Miss dee I think your cup is quite big but they do shrink a bit when fired so my best gues is a bit less than 300ml


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dont mean to be annoyed though. just a bit worried that you are forgeting that this is not quite the same as freakforges lair and I cant garruntee perfection and the prices also reflect the awsome power of my very expensive kiln burning at a max of 1280 degrees C or 2336 F

Oh wow, the ladies turned out amazingly.

You got the skin perfect without lightening it too far or making it look like leather or powdery. Very rarely get to see darker skinned minis that dont literally look like they are made of chocolate or belt leather. Those shoes are stylinzzz.

Mugs are looking great too The kiln sounds rather scary though, it must cost a ton to upkeep those kinds of temperatures?

well its the most economical kiln I could find. Thanks about the models I am real pleased with the skin tones - found my own special ways of doing it.

But let me conrtinue my rant... in a way the sculpture on the mugs is a mere icing on the cake. The process of making the mugs is a work of perfection guaranteed to sap my strength, learning to throw pottery on a wheel is somthing akin to learning to drive, especially seeing as you have an excellerator pedal... took me three months to get any kind of pot and I am still learning and will continue to learn for the rest of forever. Then once the pot is dry enough to stand it you flip it over and turn the base in the manner of turning on a lathe, this is a matter of presice presicion, delicate beyond belief or you will end up witha squashed pot. Then finally we come to the sculpt... I would love to spend longer and harder work on the sculpt but I can only do so much as this is in fact the hardest bit and I sometimes wonder where to begin but somehow it comes together. Sorry von dom you touched a nerve and I just thought I should point out that its not like green stuff. any concrete thoughts on exactly how you want the symbol to look as I have just one chance to change it tomorrow and then I will have to start again cos it will be dry.

I did a stint of it in college and it was unbelievable.

I think people are looking at the mugs and focusing on the decal, not on how perfectly flat the bases are or even and smooth the curves. Trying to use a wheel for the first week was nothing but a massive mess and I think the best I finally got was an extremely wobbly milk pot. It was very modern looking but in no way what I was aiming for.

The handles and the curve of the mugs belly are what I love about yours, no decal wouldn't be an issue, they are still gorgeous.

sorry bout the massive rant - was drunk. It is harder than it looks though

do you accept my honest try to make amends for the harsh and not based on actual knowledge about pottery and clay modeling critics? i fully understand yu when you describe how complicated working with clay is. to be honest i didn´t figure that you had to work on a rather soft cup. i haven´t thought about how to do it in the least... the potential risk to ruin the pot by even upturning i can understand, did a few hours in early schoollife and i had my fair share to cope even with suasages made of clay to get a pot right... so again i have to say your mugs look very even, smooth and done with great care.
and i fully well understand that i hit a nerve there. to hurt the artistic soul is always a danger that the careless viewer tends to do....
if i may be so bold i have only one argument to bring forth so:
if i give critics or praise i tend to be brutal honest about. if i think it is only avarage or so i wont praise but have seen others here do so. there are times when i think that works well, i have seen now the error in parts of my way and i will be more careful now. the least i want to do is hurt feelings in that way and i hope my apology has helped you in a way...

sorry for being ignorant about the amount of work you let us see and admire (well actuallly as it seems not enough^^)...

vik

I Love it.


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There was this kid on the warmachine forums who asked if they could use a kiln to dry the minis .... duh

Thats ok von dom I know you didn't mean it it a nasty way - but I love a good rant when I'm drunk! (I feel bad now for not accepting critisim gracefully)

It is construtive to have critisism of course but I think I need a lot more practice before I can really address the imperfections. Anyways any more thoughts on the phoenix? I cant do anything today cos I have a raging hangover - been eating liquid diet again, but I exagerated about the drying - it should still be soft enough to work tomorrow. I was basically just working straight from the picture so I need a little feedback on that, cheers


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I read again and see you alredy made a suggestion:

"could you add some lines on the wings or break up the formation of the bird structure so that wings and body are not of one piece?"

That shouldn't be a problem!

thanks for accepting my apology^^

hope you feel better...its so long that i had a hangover that its alomost not true anymore^^

so when you´ve sobered up i will eagerly await your new work^^

cheers weety and draw some fresh air too^^

vik

sorry for the long absence. Social and work life get in the way of my creative time sometimes. I have decided to build a city out of junk I find at work. The colour scheme is rusty metal and dirty concrete and the theme is urban nightmare. Its not going to be a professional job (forget the guy who does 'my city of death' he is a pro)

this is just so as we have something to play necromunda on - I've found someone to play with (which reminds me I sold all my dice on ebay years ago).

Heres the prototype - The first appartment block is on its way as well - that kinda looks like where I live except its not painted magnolia.

have you considered to use your pettery skill to make terrain? could look like in the first Star wars movie in the village the droids met Luke...forgot the name^^
but i guess it would be pretty heavy then...

your shown terrain looks good to go, what will you add on this terrain and what might be your next thing to build?

cheers, vik

heres my tower block - the bit on the side is the stairwell and will have balcony/walkways coming out the doors. it needs some boarded up windows and ventilation shafts. Making some free-standing walkways out of lollipop sticks now! Ive got tons of lolipop sticks so expect trestle bridge style catwalks everywhere. And lots of nasty looking concrete appartments with graffiti round the bottoms and faded fly posters. Boarded up windows, burned out cars? that could be fun to do - maybe a ruined industrial complex with cranes and bulk goods in piles - its all stuff whihch should be easy to do with the junk we throw out at work

cool building block, and it is now able to be built however you want it to. tahts a big plus in necromunda to make the terrain fresh and ever changing...
the trestle bridges sound like a really fun thing to do.

vik

Looking ace Weety.

Are you going to pin the blocks to prevent accidental toppling during gameplay?

yes they are all pinned together with wire. Might put something heavy in the bottom to as polystyrenes got no wieght

Capital idea!

Alternatively pin to a base
Is looking good!

will you use the tincan for cookies and the big bottles too? would be a great addition and i would see some things i might steal away as ideas in the future...

vik

well the big bottles are needed for my small scale wine brewing hobby - I make a lovely red wine and the blackberry is just slurpalicious. But its true they would make amazing chemical storage tanks.

I have found some enormous bits of polystyrene in the cupboard and the trestle walkway is looking finished. No longer looks like its made from lollipop sticks.

you brew wine? seriously? is that legal? well its not moonshine whiskey but still...and i thought you don´t get enough sunshine for a good harvest of grapes in the UK...
well i guess big bottles are not that hard to get...
i have played in my mind a chemical pond out of a saladbox you know that kind of mayonaise salad you get in the supermarket...with chicken and stuff...

its not illegal to brew but you are not meant to sell it without a license. Grapes do actually grow down here in the far southwest of britain but I just buy grape juice from shops! its very good value.

Chemical pond! you could make a whole chemical plant - fun with green paint

yup...that is one good and effectiv battleground in more than one sense...so much things that might happen then^^


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and i gather it is a rather rich wine your making then...with actual juice it will have a much heavier set than other wines...for how long did you do that? really ineresting... for me it doesnt work as my wife doenst want to drink wine... she cant stand the taste...

My mum was a great brewer and handed down her secrets in a little book full of nearly indecipherable handwriting. The juice wine is lovely but as you say it is a little stronger than what you get from the shops. I've been at it for years

cool tradition is wonderful, adn a handwritten book adds a volume of mysticism to your work^^
about strong wine...well if its tasty ...well either be careful when drinking or embrace the outcome^^ whatever they might be^^

weetyskemian44 wrote:its not illegal to brew but you are not meant to sell it without a license. Grapes do actually grow down here in the far southwest of britain but I just buy grape juice from shops! its very good value.

Chemical pond! you could make a whole chemical plant - fun with green paint

Try Parsnip wine.

That will get anyone Nissed.