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Some rumors regarding the Stormfiends:

50 euro's for 3 models

Models cost 5 points less then a warplightning cannon, the weapons are included into the cost. They come from Rare

They have the same statline as a Masterbred Ratogre with the followin changes:
Bs3, +1 wound, armour save of 6+ for the ranged ones and 4+ for the close combat ones.

You can mix different weapons through the unit, if you mix close combat and ranged then the close combat guy will get targeted first when distributing wounds and making saves.
So if you put 1 Closecombat weapon in a ranged unit then for the first 4 wounds you have a 4+ armour save, and then a 6+ for the remainder of the wounds.

One of the 6 weaponoptions is the grinderfist which gives the unit a tunneling option.

The grinderfist is absolutely brutal. You place a counter in any point before scouts deployment. On your second turn, if you roll a 2+ on a dice, you scatter the counter with the artillery dice, and if you roll problems or the first dice was a 1 the unit is delayed a turn. If the unit ends over impassable terrain or a friendly unit, you shorten the distance to avoid it, but if it ends over an enemy unit you place the rats in close combat against the front rank, though it doesn't count as the rats charging. Otherwise, you place the unit however you want as long as a model with grinderfists is touching the counter, and the unit may act normally for the remainder of the turn, and it can even charge.

Just checked with the lovely person spiling the contents of the new book and it's LD7 plus they are skirmishers without the movement perks whatever that means.

Damn. I think my Skaven buddy is going to pretty happy with these.

 Haight wrote:
The warpfire thrower looks great. Warpstone Pasties man requires two quick flicks of a hobby knife to have him look great. Chester McChesterson, The Chest-gun wielding skaven probably will require his chest being completely cut and filed down. THankfully that's a stupid easy cover up. Cut the gun down, file all the way down, even if there's a hollow behind the gun nozzle, that's a little bit of green stuff and a round shield bit, bit off the empire steam tank, bit off the old chapel terrain kit, or other suitable sized piece like that away from being back to awesome.


Thanks @ TheDarkAvenger ... where'd you manage to dig up that one of the round based bells was photochopped ? Do we know the source of that pic btw ?

Kinda makes me wonder if more of these rumors aren't aggrandized bs, too. Well... wonder or hope.

It's a dude on Twitter.

The key point to note is that in the pics of it on a round base, one of the wheels isn't actually attached to the base. And if you've assembled a bell, you'll know what I mean by that.

Darkavenger - might be worth noting that the back wheel or any for that matter can be raised, all depending on wheel layout and where the spikes are.
I have seen several with wheels off the base due to poor planning or construction.
However, GW Photoshop most things these days so this would be no real surprise.

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 Haight wrote:
The warpfire thrower looks great. Warpstone Pasties man requires two quick flicks of a hobby knife to have him look great. Chester McChesterson, The Chest-gun wielding skaven probably will require his chest being completely cut and filed down. THankfully that's a stupid easy cover up. Cut the gun down, file all the way down, even if there's a hollow behind the gun nozzle, that's a little bit of green stuff and a round shield bit, bit off the empire steam tank, bit off the old chapel terrain kit, or other suitable sized piece like that away from being back to awesome.


Thanks @ TheDarkAvenger ... where'd you manage to dig up that one of the round based bells was photochopped ? Do we know the source of that pic btw ?

Kinda makes me wonder if more of these rumors aren't aggrandized bs, too. Well... wonder or hope.

It's a dude on Twitter.

The key point to note is that in the pics of it on a round base, one of the wheels isn't actually attached to the base. And if you've assembled a bell, you'll know what I mean by that.

I have helped assembled a bell and a plague censor. You'd have to work pretty hard to have one of the wheels not be attached.

Unfortunately it appeasrs the pic is from white dwarf, so as much as i wanted this to be a hoax, it still appears legit from GW. :(

 Haight wrote:
The key point to note is that in the pics of it on a round base, one of the wheels isn't actually attached to the base. And if you've assembled a bell, you'll know what I mean by that.

I have helped assembled a bell and a plague censor. You'd have to work pretty hard to have one of the wheels not be attached.

Unfortunately it appeasrs the pic is from white dwarf, so as much as i wanted this to be a hoax, it still appears legit from GW. :(

Things get done in a hurry at times .

If you look at the WoC Warshrine the Khorne symbol is A Upside down and B held on with blu-tac

The guy on twitter with these accusations and with his 'brick to your face'-post should be ashamed of himself whatever his point may be. This is in no way an acceptable behaviour.

That there are two WFB models on a round base in an official GW publication means only that. You can interpret it in whatever way you want.

This is GWs way of interacting with its customers, no information until the product is there. No social media to get negative feedback. Denial of changes by staff and support until the changes are already in progress

 Schlyne wrote:
Isn't there a 40k model somewhere (I don't remember which one) that on the official box picture, something is assembled backwards? i think it's like a shouderpad glued in upside down/backwards or something like that.

There have been a lot of those. I think one of the Leman Russ boxes had an upside down heavy bolter on it, and the plastic Eldar wraithguard used to have a broken model on the box art. I'm not sure if it was on the box or the 360 view on the GW website, but the plastic hive tyrant had limbs clearly held on with big blobs of blue tac, also.

If anybody could tell me the rules for each of the vermin lords, thanquol and boneripper and the stormfiends i would be very grateful. I think they've been mentioned somewhat but some clarification on the actual rules esp. from the end times: skaven book would be nice.

 lord_blackfang wrote:


As far as I am concerned, they look fine now.

OK idea, but again too, too, TOO clean.

They are basically straight up grotesque conversion fodder but I wouldn't place them on the table as their intended unit type!

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
If anybody could tell me the rules for each of the vermin lords, thanquol and boneripper and the stormfiends i would be very grateful. I think they've been mentioned somewhat but some clarification on the actual rules esp. from the end times: skaven book would be nice.

The rules are in the book and as an insert with the model, if you want the rules buy the book or the model. We cannot post copyrighted material here. Belloflostsoukls.net has a leaked version but it's an italian translation & not all of them.

I like them all...not sure how many boxes I'll get, but it will be at least 2. Leftover bits to kitbash with existing Rat Ogres!

@Reds8n holy gak it is as well lmao. Hobby fail...

 Shas'O Dorian wrote:

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
If anybody could tell me the rules for each of the vermin lords, thanquol and boneripper and the stormfiends i would be very grateful. I think they've been mentioned somewhat but some clarification on the actual rules esp. from the end times: skaven book would be nice.

The rules are in the book and as an insert with the model, if you want the rules buy the book or the model. We cannot post copyrighted material here. Belloflostsoukls.net has a leaked version but it's an italian translation & not all of them.

Sorry i didn't know one or two models was bad. I know we can't show points costs for each individual unit. I guess i didn't know just how hard *ss GW was gonna be with this.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

 Shas'O Dorian wrote:

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
If anybody could tell me the rules for each of the vermin lords, thanquol and boneripper and the stormfiends i would be very grateful. I think they've been mentioned somewhat but some clarification on the actual rules esp. from the end times: skaven book would be nice.

The rules are in the book and as an insert with the model, if you want the rules buy the book or the model. We cannot post copyrighted material here. Belloflostsoukls.net has a leaked version but it's an italian translation & not all of them.

Sorry i didn't know one or two models was bad. I know we can't show points costs for each individual unit. I guess i didn't know just how hard *ss GW was gonna be with this.

It's copyrighted material. No company wants that posted online. You want the rules, you have to buy the book.

Leaked pics from the WD#51, Warlord and Grey Seer revealed

http://forofreakfactory.mforos.com/1035375/11573987-portada-de-la-white-dwarf-con-las-nuevas-ratas-ogro-fotos-nuevas-a-dia-12/#106072692

Shouldn't be surprised but they're bloody expensive for small 20mm base plastic models.

I'll stick with my queek model & my grey seer from the bell.

 Shas'O Dorian wrote:
I'll stick with my queek model & my grey seer from the bell.

Ditto.

Yep, I'll take 2 units of 6 Stormfiends, please.

I find it odd how none of the WD screenshots have the pages with the Stormfiends backs on them,that might change alot of minds about buying them (or counts-as grotesques)

I dig the Grey Seer, not sold on the Warlord, looks off to me.

via Old Primarch Missed in the Eye of Terror
Stormfiend are montrous infantry wearing light armour
Unit size is 3+
Rare Unit
85pts per model.

each one must take a weapon listed below, but with no restrictions on how many of each or in any combination. They cost no additional points.
1)Doom-flayer gauntlets: +2 str with impact hits d3
2)Grinderfists: str5 count as magical weapons, dont roll to hit/ does d3 hits, and tunneler special rule(place marker and scatter from it-come in on a 2+ each round)
3)Ratling Cannons:18" range Str5 armour piercing, multiple shots 3d6, quick to fire, count as magical, suffer no penalties for long range or multiple shots,
4)Shock Gauntlets: +1 str and does d3 hits when making a stomp. ignore armour saves
5)Warpfire Projectors: template, str5, flaming attacks, multiple wounds d3, move or fire, quick to fire, magical weapon, on misfire does d6 hits to closest friendly unit
6)Windlaunchers: 6-24" range, plague wind (template and wounds on a 4+ with no armour save), magical weapon, scatters if misfires.

Stormfiends re-roll to wound with their weapons.

if equipped with doomflayer gauntlets or shock gauntlets, they also have warpstone-laced armour that gives them a 4+ armour save against all wounds. Any with warpstone laced armour take wounds first.


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Light armour...that sucks
BUT....those rattling cannons seem legit. Quick to fire, 3d6 shots and st5 and no penalty for moving or long range

I'm buying a set of these guys just for those. I'll just have to shave off the dang chest piece but that rattling cannons are good shooting for skaven.
Not sure about 85 points a model tho but whatever.

Close combat ones I could take them or leave them (haven't read the stat line yet)
Also not sure if the warpfire projectors are move OR fire and quick to fire that doesn't make any sense?

Looks like, as the kit contains all the weapon options, that there's an option for a non-Gatling chest.

Definitely nicer options for Skaven Grey Seers and Warlords already out there in GW's own model range in my opinion... that said I actually quite like the seer but the Warlord is definitely a model I'd definitely not pick up, looks too rank and file for my liking.

The Rat Ogres look nice, as always

From first look, it appears that all of them look balanced (no clear cut better choice). I'm thinking that the only auto include is the Warp Grinder, because the Tunnel rule is just...better than a Drop Pod haha.

 triplegrim wrote:
Look Bonerippers mechanical leg. I'm telling you, they are taking WHFB in a steampunk direction, to capitalize om Warmahordes success.

I'm pretty sure they already had some steampunk in the game. Look at the other Skaven stuff with the boilers and brass.

Plus this is a thing:

 Platuan4th wrote:
Yep, I'll take 2 units of 6 Stormfiends, please.

That's a 4080 point army minimum no other rare slots!

rtb01 wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
Yep, I'll take 2 units of 6 Stormfiends, please.

That's a 4080 point army minimum no other rare slots!

I'm filling out my collection from 10K to 13K.