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dsteingass wrote:Our Jr. High Principal had neck Balls...we called him "Turkey Joe"

Uh.....what he said

Viktor von Domm wrote:blearggggggh....

TH3FALL3N wrote:Really nice Vostroyans dude!

Thanks for stopping by and commenting! However, it is a bit strange to get a compliment next to the Mister Yukk face

alabamaheretic wrote:*poke poke* hey rawson thought i'd see whats happening, just a talk of moar rivets.

Hold yer horses, here's yer update

I haven't been working on the Medusa so much lately, but that's only because I've been cranking on the Vendetta!

Got the wings magnetized, and I'm pretty happy with the strength (stay tuned for the rear wing)



I went with a Fortress Grey two-tone, like we talked about earlier. You likey?


Here's a closeup of the front end. Still a lot of work to be done (especially on the pilots), but I'm happy where things are going.



A few bits of input I would like:
1)Does the vendetta need some red markings on the nose? I don't want it to too out of control, but I wasn't sure if a unit marking would be sufficient. Which brings me to my next point:
2)Where should the unit markings go? Nose? Wing? Tail? All three?
3)How should I paint the pilots goggle lenses? Doing the standard green that I've been using for the rest of the army feels too hi-tech to me, and I think the area is too small to do a proper lens effect. Any ideas?

Thanks for looking!
Rawson

I love the Vendetta! I think the red you have is perfect. Just enough to stand out with out it REALLY standing out. I would put unit markings on the red part on the pieces going to the back wings. Nice and simple and look like they would fit in there.

sparkywtf wrote:I love the Vendetta! I think the red you have is perfect. Just enough to stand out with out it REALLY standing out. I would put unit markings on the red part on the pieces going to the back wings. Nice and simple and look like they would fit in there.

Thanks for the CC, Sparky! I'll have to ponder the unit markings on the tail spars: I'm not sure that the black and red icon would show up well on the red background.
But I've been wrong before once

Man! That looks GREAT Rawson!
Excellent Color Scheme!!

yea put the unit markings on the tail fin is my thought. well you could always do a black on the lenses like a modern fighter pilot. just a thought on that too. but yea everything is looking great so far man keep it going!

You like the flowers in the background?

...

a) purge it with fire?
b) how nice...shows you have a female touch in the house...*ducks*
c) who did notice flowers in the background when a valk is in the foreground of a pic...

maybe you coudl do some small markings like numbers and such on the hatches? on the sides...
also about the goggles...mybe you could do them just balck with some grey highlights?
like



by the way... will you keep that valk rather clean and well maintained? or will it see some weathering soon? not that i might be understood wrong here... thast clean job really sits that jet very much!

oh and as for something for the nose of the valk... i think vostroyans are way to sober to do some pinups or shark teeth... so let it stay that way too...

Good scheme.
I'd paint the lenses in dark blue. Also I don't think it's too small for a proper effect. Just start with black, give it two blue increasingly bright highlights, blue wash the whole thing, white reflex point and done.
Like Vik I'm curious whether you will do weathering. So far your Vendetta is nice, but a bit flat. I always find shading/highlighting vehicles difficult, so I understand if you don't want to do it, but some weathering could add enough realism to distract from the missing shading.

lovely work on the vostroyans and the vendetta

I would be afraid to weather that nice of a paintjob myself. It's plausible to assume aircraft are much better maintained by the Imperial Navy from the facilities on-board ships (which are designed for long campaigns and crusades)

dsteingass wrote:Man! That looks GREAT Rawson! Excellent Color Scheme!!

neil101 wrote:lovely work on the vostroyans and the vendetta

Baiyuan wrote:Good scheme.

Thanks, guys! I appreciate the feedback!

alabamaheretic wrote:yea put the unit markings on the tail fin is my thought.

Viktor von Domm wrote:maybe you coudl do some small markings like numbers and such on the hatches? on the sides...

Tail Fin makes sense: maybe ID numbers? I like your idea of small markings, Vik! I'm sure I can find a lot of reference pics with fun little things to paint. Little caution signs, and "No Step" labels. Those are the things that really make things pop!

alabamaheretic wrote:well you could always do a black on the lenses like a modern fighter pilot. just a thought on that too. but yea everything is looking great so far man keep it going!

Viktor von Domm wrote:also about the goggles...mybe you could do them just balck with some grey highlights?
like

Baiyuan wrote:I'd paint the lenses in dark blue. Also I don't think it's too small for a proper effect. Just start with black, give it two blue increasingly bright highlights, blue wash the whole thing, white reflex point and done.

So I'm hearing black or blue: sounds good! And thanks for throwing down the glove, Baiyuan I don't think I would have tried the lens effect if you didn't challenge me to it

Viktor von Domm wrote:i think vostroyans are way to sober to do some pinups or shark teeth... so let it stay that way too...

I was thinking less teeth/pinups (do Vostroyan women have mustaches also?) and more the standard red Vostroyan stripes. I think I'll do something subtle...

Viktor von Domm wrote:by the way... will you keep that valk rather clean and well maintained? or will it see some weathering soon? not that i might be understood wrong here... thast clean job really sits that jet very much! oh and as for something for the nose of the valk...

Baiyuan wrote:Like Vik I'm curious whether you will do weathering. So far your Vendetta is nice, but a bit flat. I always find shading/highlighting vehicles difficult, so I understand if you don't want to do it, but some weathering could add enough realism to distract from the missing shading.

I hope that the highlighting will give it a good pop when I get around to that. I've also been rethinking my "limited weathering" stance lately. It originated partially from a fear of tearing into freshly painted tanks and partially from a "Vostroyans are proud of their mustaches and tanks" viewpoint. From a fluff perspective, newly founded Vostroyan regiments rarely ever happen: their existing regiments are continuously replentished by incomming Firstborn, so a new off the shelf look doesn't really fit (even if they take REALLY good care of things). And it helps that I'm a bit less scared of trying out some weathering techniques. So I think it safe to say that the Vendetta will see some weathering.

Thanks, everyone, for your comments! Helpful and motivating!
Rawson


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dsteingass wrote:I would be afraid to weather that nice of a paintjob myself. It's plausible to assume aircraft are much better maintained by the Imperial Navy from the facilities on-board ships (which are designed for long campaigns and crusades)

I certainly won't be trying anything crazy! But some oil streaks and chips would not be amis, methinks...

You really can't go wrong with weathering on vehicles. Once you're done with all the decals, the highlights and maybe even the shading, you take a can of gloss varnish and seal the whole thing. Now you can carelessly apply filters and weathering with washes or oil colors and pigments. If you fail to achieve the desired effect just wash the weathering off and start again. When you're done the whole thing it's matt varnished and voila!

I don't think I would have tried the lens effect if you didn't challenge me to it

heck man...you can do it!

and weathering...maybe i can learn something too...^^ just do it...

and hopefully we won´t ever see some vostroyan damsels with distressing `staches...*crossing all available fingers...*

Oh yeah! Realistic amounts of streaking, paint chips, etc. sure, but at a minimum methinks. Perhaps a well-serviced condition from lots of time spent in void travel ?

how i missed this, i dunno, but the valk is looking amazing rawson! I love the oldtimey heads (makes me want to barenuckle box!) and i also like the green lenses alot too

Rogue Wolves wrote:how i missed this, i dunno, but the valk is looking amazing rawson! I love the oldtimey heads (makes me want to barenuckle box!) and i also like the green lenses alot too

Thanks, man! I don't know how you could have missed all of this awesomeness either The heads are one of my favorite parts as well. I spent a good deal of time on them to get the feel right. I'd hate to cover them up with a full canopy!
Thanks for mentioning the lenses. I was rather pleased with how they turned out (minus the clean up on the under-chin lens that the close up shot revealed ). The left side lens I was particularly proud of

I am trying desperately to maintain painting progress before starting any new projects, but it is difficult. I had an idea today to convert a Cairn Wraith into the Astropath that I need for my 1500 pt list. In addition, I checked out the "What's New Today" article on the GW page today and saw all the new Empire stuff to be released in a week. Super sweet! I have my eye on a lot of those kits (or at least bits) to suppliment the 104th! The Witchhunter and Warrior Priest will make especially cool conversions and I'm hoping to pick up at least the telescope from the engineer for a crewman on the Medusa. Now, if only I could come up with a way to use the breastplate of Deathclaw. Now that thing is impressive!

Well after filtering my way through this I have decided to revisit my first born amazing work, My favourite by far is the ogres what a difference and works so well great job on those ……. I might borrow that idea if you don't mind it looks to good not to

Great job love the Rivets on the armour and track guards really pulls in the look better, the pilots are a nice touch to ……… love the flowers brings the organic feel to it all

I was thinking of using these for rough riders with a bit of work

lone dirty dog wrote:Well after filtering my way through this I have decided to revisit my first born amazing work, My favourite by far is the ogres what a difference and works so well great job on those ……. I might borrow that idea if you don't mind it looks to good not to
Great job love the Rivets on the armour and track guards really pulls in the look better, the pilots are a nice touch to

Thanks, LDD! Feel free to pilfer any ideas that you see here I don't require payment, but I do accept kudos

lone dirty dog wrote:I was thinking of using these for rough riders with a bit of work

The thought had crossed my mind as well, it would work really well! It didn't rank too high on my project list, as I already have my roughriders almost finished (plus I'm not really running them in my lists)

Rawson wrote:

lone dirty dog wrote:Well after filtering my way through this I have decided to revisit my first born amazing work, My favourite by far is the ogres what a difference and works so well great job on those ……. I might borrow that idea if you don't mind it looks to good not to
Great job love the Rivets on the armour and track guards really pulls in the look better, the pilots are a nice touch to

Thanks, LDD! Feel free to pilfer any ideas that you see here I don't require payment, but I do accept kudos

lone dirty dog wrote:I was thinking of using these for rough riders with a bit of work

The thought had crossed my mind as well, it would work really well! It didn't rank too high on my project list, as I already have my roughriders almost finished (plus I'm not really running them in my lists)

Kudos in mass would you like it faxed or emailed I started converting cold ones adding fur ( well one ) and some of the IG rough riders ( like yours basically ) but it was not looking right so might try these instead.

Cool that you thought the same as well , feels like I am on track then LOL

lone dirty dog wrote:
Kudos in mass would you like it faxed or emailed I started converting cold ones adding fur ( well one ) and some of the IG rough riders ( like yours basically ) but it was not looking right so might try these instead.

You can just mention me in your PMblog hen it hits the Dakka front page
What were you trying to turn them into with GS fur?

Rawson wrote:

lone dirty dog wrote:
Kudos in mass would you like it faxed or emailed I started converting cold ones adding fur ( well one ) and some of the IG rough riders ( like yours basically ) but it was not looking right so might try these instead.

You can just mention me in your PMblog hen it hits the Dakka front page
What were you trying to turn them into with GS fur?

Not really sure I just kind of thought they would work and look right, I will take a photo if you want

oo ldd, you should do some demigryph rough riders (might i add, that a majority of the =][_,= plays IG.. just thought that was cool)

Rogue Wolves wrote:might i add, that a majority of the =][_,= plays IG.. just thought that was cool

I never noticed that before, but good point! Must be a mark of genius to play IG

Rogue Wolves wrote:oo ldd, you should do some demigryph rough riders (might i add, that a majority of the =][_,= plays IG.. just thought that was cool)

Will do as soon as funds are available at the moment dusting of old projects and trying to finish them with some luck


You have to love guard as they are the underdogs, what they lack in mods and steroid induced abilities they make up with pure determination and stupidity

Demigryphs added to the to do list

Rawson we are all genius of sorts, how ever remember there is a very thin line between genius and madness, I have stepped over it several times

does the right knight wear a gasmask???

and i just got the email from GW and their new empire stuff...maybe i go to the GW shop the next week... need some paints anyway...

and i think rivets and IG just go so well together... the second best choice for a riveter is orks... after that you have to find excuses... tho max does seem the exception of the rule... as he rivets atm like a berserker and it is for SM and choas and IG...and it always looks cool and convincing^^

I agree with vik, when someone says Rivet, I think IG Superheavy!

lone dirty dog wrote:You have to love guard as they are the underdogs, what they lack in mods and steroid induced abilities they make up with pure determination and rivets

^Corrected for accuracy

aye

Except Tau, they are weak because they do not embrace the holy Rivet!

dont forget the ...well...pink looking space elves....

.. pff elves.. i've always been a dwarf man myslef.. crummy elves cant even grow a beard!