Black Library News & Rumor thread: Buried Dagger pg 30

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**Haighus**

Overread wrote:
GW has pretty much abandoned finecast - even if they worked it to perfectly the negative connections in marketing for it are just far too great.

Resin will mean Forgeworlds regular resin material.

I'm not surprised, that stuff had real problems. The issues were generally fairly minor in the lovely climate of Britain *snigger* but I heard some real horror stories from warmer regions, like Australia and the southern US.

**Overread**

Haighus wrote:
Overread wrote:
GW has pretty much abandoned finecast - even if they worked it to perfectly the negative connections in marketing for it are just far too great.

Resin will mean Forgeworlds regular resin material.

I'm not surprised, that stuff had real problems. The issues were generally fairly minor in the lovely climate of Britain *snigger* but I heard some real horror stories from warmer regions, like Australia and the southern US.

It was also a quality control and production nightmare - a lot more stories of misscastings and bits of mould release stuck on models and bubble issues and the like. It just wasn't the right material for the market; esp a market not even used to resin working (after plastic and metal); yet the errors with finecast appeared way worse than for even regular resin.

Finecast is now like metal - GW keeps it on some lines and some models and likely will until they either retire those models or replace them with plastic. That most of them are slow sellers means it might take a while before they feel the need to make that kind of investment.

**Haighus**

The issue there is that some of them may be slow sellers because they are still in resin.

I'd love to start an Asuryani army or expand my tiny Chaos force, but the plethora of resin options for major unit choices (Aspect warriors, Rangers; Havocs, Obliterators, HQs) has put me off doing either for now.

**Overread**

Aye which is why I think GW will change some over before the moulds break; plus sometimes its not just one model swapovers. They could easily make a biovore and pyrovore combined kit for Tyranids then box them up 3 to a box just like they've done for zoanthropes.

Sometimes I think its just them waiting for a production slot in a very full few years of releases. Plus Age of Sigmar is, I think, taking a lions share of development and investment which is sorely needed to get it into a stable state. By and large only Genestealer Cultists and Sisters of Battle needed big additions in 40K (most other armies they've made big additions too were armies they made themselves through the year like Custodes and fleshing out Knights)

**aracersss**

... new art for curze?

**BrookM**

It's just cover art for a novel, not sure what you are trying to get from that?

**Danny76**

I just read it as he’s pointing out new art of Curze.
Nothing else aside from oh look a new piece of art.

Unless I missed something

**Tavis75**

Overread wrote:
GW has pretty much abandoned finecast - even if they worked it to perfectly the negative connections in marketing for it are just far too great.

Resin will mean Forgeworlds regular resin material.

The Eisenhorn mini was Finecast, so I wouldn't be completely sure.

**phillv85**

Tavis75 wrote:
Overread wrote:
GW has pretty much abandoned finecast - even if they worked it to perfectly the negative connections in marketing for it are just far too great.

Resin will mean Forgeworlds regular resin material.

The Eisenhorn mini was Finecast, so I wouldn't be completely sure.

As is Sly Marbo

**Overread**

I didn't know about Eisenhorn, though isn't Sly Marbo a limited release relisted so it would make sense that they used the original moulds from before?

**phillv85**

Sly was a new re-imagined model that was initially a limited release, but has now gone to being always available direct.

**Crimson**

Is this some weird limited edition model or can you buy it normally from the store?

**Inquisitor Gideon**

Regular release. Same as Eisenhorn, Marbo, Veridyan and Slambo.

**BrookM**

Had a chance to read "Fire and Thunder", the third Severina Raine eshort and I quite liked it, in particular the shift of focus from Raine to another character.

**Bobthehero**

Is it a higher ranked officer from her regiment, because so far my biggest complain about her shorts is that she's acting almost as a senior officer and a commissar, rather than just a commissar, it feels weird there's no colonel or major around.

**BrookM**

Well, during the first story she executed the officer in charge and took his place during the assault. The second story has her crashing behind enemy lines and rallying the survivors she's with, so less applicable, but with the third story a new CO has been appointed and she's back to being a morale officer and advisor in full capacity, sticking to the background but keeping an eye on things and offering suggestions when needed.

But no, the character we follow this time around for most of the story is Wyck.

I do want to see more of Andren Fel and his Duskhounds, those guys are the monsters Scions are supposed to be. Zane as well, she's such a bad ass despite being a frail psyker.

**Bobthehero**

Well I am going to go buy Fire and Thunder, be right back.

**Kanluwen**

As a note, the author seems kinda excited about this whole development.

She posted the following via her Twitter yesterday:

Hold on guys, this is going to be a THREAD. So, my character Severina Raine is getting a miniature. A honest-to-goodness, Games Workshop MINIATURE.

It’s taken me a while to put this tweet together, because I can’t really articulate how amazing this is.

Which is VERY AMAZING. Mike Fores (the miniature designer) and Simon Adams (who painted her) have done an incredible job of bringing Raine to life in a way I could never have imagined. I am incredibly thankful, and so table-thumpingly excited to paint her myself.

And there are going to be rules for Kill Team! Guess I’d better crack on with those Scions I’ve been building, then, right?

She also posted the reading order for the short stories(along with links to them on Black Library, but I figure you lot can find them easy enough.

) and a note that they all take place pre-"Honorbound" so no spoilers are present.

If you’re looking for an introduction to Raine and the Rifles, the first story is ‘Execution’
After that comes ‘A Company of Shadows’
And after that ‘Fire and Thunder’

There's also a story available in the Black Library Events Anthology for 2018/19, called 'The Darkling Hours'.
All of these stories are set before Honourbound, so can be read in advance of the novel with no fear of spoilers. Hope that helps!

**Bobthehero**

Well I guess I won't, since the BL site has issues processing my order

**BrookM**

Second attempt, right topic this time around, derp..

Oh my days!

When a mission goes badly wrong, Inquisitorial agent Ianthe and her associates are forced into an alliance with a dangerous and unscrupulous figure that could have dire consequences for them all…

LISTEN TO IT BECAUSE
It's the third act in John French's award-winning audio drama series, and it sees Ianthe make her most difficult decisions yet, in the name of her mission, and her Inquisitorial masters.

THE STORY
Subterfuge and compromise walk hand-in-hand for an agent of the Throne. On the blighted world of Dustcorn, an assault on an Inquisitorial target goes badly awry forcing Ianthe and her associates into a pact with an unscrupulous ally, the mysterious Zand. With her mission in tatters, Ianthe has little choice but to agree to Zand’s terms, the assassination of a perfidious traitor. But nothing is simple where Zand is concerned and Ianthe soon finds herself in a situation that will have far-reaching consequences for her and her team.

Written by John French

This title will be available to order from the 11th May 2019 as a CD.

gak.

**reds8n**

https://www.blacklibrary.com/coming-soon/may

May books ( and CDS ) are up.

**Looky Likey**

Highlights for me is Curze getting his Primarch book and the first SoT novel being available in a standard edition. Angron's Primarch book is also available as a standard edition, read that over the weekend, its actually one of the better Primarch books, you get to see him pre nails for a good hint to who he could have been.

**BrookM**

Happy that the third Inferno! is on the horizon, now if only they'd send out my copy of the second one and those reprints already..

**queen_annes_revenge**

Looky Likey wrote:
Highlights for me is Curze getting his Primarch book and the first SoT novel being available in a standard edition. Angron's Primarch book is also available as a standard edition, read that over the weekend, its actually one of the better Primarch books, you get to see him pre nails for a good hint to who he could have been.

I thought only the special edition was available at the minute? I splashed out on that at the HHW, the special editions are beautifully presented. I'll probably pay for the Curze and Magnus ones when they come out.

**Looky Likey**

queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Looky Likey wrote:
Highlights for me is Curze getting his Primarch book and the first SoT novel being available in a standard edition. Angron's Primarch book is also available as a standard edition, read that over the weekend, its actually one of the better Primarch books, you get to see him pre nails for a good hint to who he could have been.

I thought only the special edition was available at the minute? I splashed out on that at the HHW, the special editions are beautifully presented. I'll probably pay for the Curze and Magnus ones when they come out.

I was referring to the previous post that linked to the May releases.

I've collected the limited editions of the Primarch books since they first came out, really pleased with how they have turned out but even the normal editions look great.

**BrookM**

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/02/06/6th-feb-the-buried-dagger-meet-the-castgw-homepage-post-2/

**Kdash**

Oooh, big big big interest in this book now! A lot of people always presumed that several of the Knight-Errants went on to found the Grey Knights, however, this implies that that is not the case! We also always heard that there were 8 founders, but, again, this leads us to believe there was Janus/Ianius and then 8 additional Grand Masters severing below him.

Super interested in what we learn from all this!

**Kriswall**

Yeah, I'm definitely interested in reading this book now.

**Red_Five**

Kdash wrote:
Oooh, big big big interest in this book now! A lot of people always presumed that several of the Knight-Errants went on to found the Grey Knights, however, this implies that that is not the case! We also always heard that there were 8 founders, but, again, this leads us to believe there was Janus/Ianius and then 8 additional Grand Masters severing below him.

Super interested in what we learn from all this!

We know that Kyron was the first grand Master of the 8th Brotherhood of Grey Knights.

**Haighus**

Kdash wrote:
Oooh, big big big interest in this book now! A lot of people always presumed that several of the Knight-Errants went on to found the Grey Knights, however, this implies that that is not the case! We also always heard that there were 8 founders, but, again, this leads us to believe there was Janus/Ianius and then 8 additional Grand Masters severing below him.

Super interested in what we learn from all this!

Does this match the current GK structure (Supreme GM and 8 GM leading Brotherhoods), or is there going to be a lost Brotherhood? Something like the SW 13th great company.