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To start a conversation, everyone simply needs to say who they suspect is DarkO's partner and why. I suspect GND/DD simply because DarkO switched off of him onto LotG, resulting in LotG's lynch.

Bob and Larry both tell me that this the best way to go(cept Larry said "ARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH), but Luke says it's the only way, stating "Well, you could post a thousand posts a day, but no one really notices or even responds. That, and I have evidence that overposting increases the amount of toxins that come out of my mouth, which, to say the least, aren't healthy for you, Gornall and I. How the toxins works is beyond me, but I'm working on it and a cure as well."

Luke suggests you all wear these gas masks he designed in order to avoid the toxins. Just incase they happen to be "deadly beyond all recorded accounts, even in the Eldar's Black Liabrary" to you as well.

*hands out large containers of rat poison*

Luke says "There is something else I should warn you all about. Bob won't shut up until I tell you all what he sadi. Bob said "HAAAAIIII GAAAAAIIIIZZZZZZZZZ, I HAZ WORKED OUT WHO KILLED ALL THOSE GUYS WHO AREN'T ALIVE ANYMORE!!!!

THAT'S THE GAAAIIIII, I SAW HIM MYSELF!!! IT MAKES MUCH MORE SENSE THAN JEANSTELLERS, OBVIOUSLY!!!! I KNOW WHERE HE IS, COME ON!!!!!" anyway, watch out for Bob, he's a little loopy, or at least I hope so. It would make much more sense if it was true. Ohhh, and Larry said to say "ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH really loudly and long, here is your $50". Wait.... I don't think I was meant to say that. hmmm, ohh well."

Gornall wrote:To start a conversation, everyone simply needs to say who they suspect is DarkO's partner and why. I suspect GND/DD simply because DarkO switched off of him onto LotG, resulting in LotG's lynch.

I feel the same way, for the same reasons. I also suspected the way gnd phrased a few things in the early days was a bit odd. It may be "unfair" on dd, but who tries to be fair in the Grimdark of the 41st millenium?

I've been consistently saying this since the early days though, and I am still not dead yet, so you have to wonder a little.

Fifty wrote:

Gornall wrote:To start a conversation, everyone simply needs to say who they suspect is DarkO's partner and why. I suspect GND/DD simply because DarkO switched off of him onto LotG, resulting in LotG's lynch.

I feel the same way, for the same reasons. I also suspected the way gnd phrased a few things in the early days was a bit odd. It may be "unfair" on dd, but who tries to be fair in the Grimdark of the 41st millenium?

I've been consistently saying this since the early days though, and I am still not dead yet, so you have to wonder a little.

I'm inpartical to this speculation, but Bob, Larry, and Luke all wanted to say something.

Bob: I CONCUR, MY RESEARCH CONCLUDES THAT GND IS ACTUALLY THE UNLIVING EMPEROR GOD OF MANKIND. SERIOUS!!!!

Larry: Arrrghhhh, *hits Bob over the head* I don't agree with that. gnd is not on Terra, or sitting upon ye golden shiny throne. He be on this god forsaken rock, in this god forsaken forrest, ARRRGGGHHHH.

Luke: *facepalm* The toxins remember. Did everyone apply the gas masks? 'Cept for you Gornall, you don't need it. *sighs*

Fifty wrote:

Gornall wrote:
I've been consistently saying this since the early days though, and I am still not dead yet, so you have to wonder a little.

Eh, this doesn't really mean much. Killing anyone that suspects would look rather suspicious, no? Plus I've been rather critical of GND for a while too.

Honestly, I don't think we have enough proof for arguing for anyone other than GND without resorting to "I've got a bad feeling". That said, I'll post again this afternoon after looking at some of the voting logs. Maybe I can spot something that we've missed.

I now believe Drk_O will continue to be annoying until we kill .I believe it to be a tactic to make us focus on him instead trying to find his ally.

I suggest we just ignore him.

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:What Drk_O said above

Drk_O, will you stop with the spam, even if Gornall is a Genestealer, unless you back up your hints with valid voting summaries and cold logic, we are forced to disbeileve you, as you are a genestealer, and therefore anti-town.

Fifty wrote:I now believe Drk_O will continue to be annoying until we kill .I believe it to be a tactic to make us focus on him instead trying to find his ally.

I suggest we just ignore him.

Dastardly Dave wrote:

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:What Drk_O said above

Drk_O, will you stop with the spam, even if Gornall is a Genestealer, unless you back up your hints with valid voting summaries and cold logic, we are forced to disbeileve you, as you are a genestealer, and therefore anti-town.

Case and point.

I vote we torture him instead.

Thankfully there is no torture option. The unchanged vote count is;

Ye Olde Vote Accounting


0 - Mekboy
0 - BrotherStynier
0 - Deff Dread red Edition
0 - Fifty
0 - Rusty Knight
3 - Drk_O (Arheiner Deff Dread red Edition Drk_O)
0 - Dastardly Dave
0 - Arheiner
0 - Gornall

0 - No Lynch

Not Voting: Fifty Dastardly Dave Mekboy BrotherStynier Gornall Rusty Knight

With 9 alive it is 5 to Lynch
If the deadline were to hit now - Drk_O would be lynched
Deadline countdown

What? No torture option? Why am I even playing this?

Can we get prods on people, please? Electric Prods!

The only player in arrears is Brother Stynier - i will prod him (in a consensual and non sexual way) now.

Deff Dred is close, but as long as he posts by this evening he's within the deadline. I'll prod him this evening if he hasn't posted.

Everyone else is good.

So, Mekboy wants to torture people...

That could be a sign that he is a true-believer in the divinity of the Emperor, and is willing to use any means to uncover the fould machinations of xenos scum, or it could mean he is foul xenos filth who delights in the suffering of dedicated servants of the Imperium of Man

((ooc, just trying to get SOME chat going...))

To get some discussion going, Gornall, could you elaborate on why you think I'm a Genestealer? All I've seen so far as evidence is Drk_O's switch to LotG, and as everyone could see he was their weak link, it would make sense for Drk_O to switch and 'prove' his innocence.

So, right now we've got Drk_O being annoying and the rest of us stammering around like fools.

I think maybe we should stop hunting for Drk_O's partner and just kill him. Who ever his partner is will likely be using the fact that Drk_O has be outed by the Inquisitor as a smoke screen. Attempting to kill the partner at this moment in time will only help the 'stealer cause as we are highly likely to kill one of our own.

Thats true, but it would effectively be wasting 5 more days, which we could use to our advantage with discussion and besides, lynching Drk_O would also kill one of us, as the 'Stealers get their nightkill straight afterwards, while this narrows down the list of suspects it also removes one person from the conversation.

Also, we are going to lynch Drk_O at the end of this day phase anyway, so anything we can glean from the conversations today is effectively a bonus.

There is almost no reason for DarkO to switch from GND/DD to LotG at that late of an hour (when it basically makes a lynch certain) unless he was choosing between two genestealers. It just seemed way too early in the game to plan on using his lynch vote on LotG to ensure that we would think he was a townie. Sacrificing one of their own this early in the game is not a good strategy, especially considering the Inquisitor could have still been out there. It would have been better to try and lynch innocents until late game when sacrficing a genestealer wouldn't result in lopsided numbers.

Gornall wrote:There is almost no reason for DarkO to switch from GND/DD to LotG at that late of an hour (when it basically makes a lynch certain) unless he was choosing between two genestealers. It just seemed way too early in the game to plan on using his lynch vote on LotG to ensure that we would think he was a townie. Sacrificing one of their own this early in the game is not a good strategy, especially considering the Inquisitor could have still been out there. It would have been better to try and lynch innocents until late game when sacrficing a genestealer wouldn't result in lopsided numbers.

A lot of people were switching to LotG, why couldn't it just have been a bandwagon vote? Besides, when has Drk_O been known for good strategy?

Good strategy, sometimes. Giant bluffs by him, always.

Dastardly Dave wrote:

Gornall wrote:There is almost no reason for DarkO to switch from GND/DD to LotG at that late of an hour (when it basically makes a lynch certain) unless he was choosing between two genestealers. It just seemed way too early in the game to plan on using his lynch vote on LotG to ensure that we would think he was a townie. Sacrificing one of their own this early in the game is not a good strategy, especially considering the Inquisitor could have still been out there. It would have been better to try and lynch innocents until late game when sacrficing a genestealer wouldn't result in lopsided numbers.

A lot of people were switching to LotG, why couldn't it just have been a bandwagon vote? Besides, when has Drk_O been known for good strategy?

You don't bandwagon onto your teammate unless you have a compelling reason. The only reasons he could have are:

GND/DD is also a genestealer, so switching to LotG doesn't "matter" (aka only changes which genestealer) and helps DarkO look innocent
GND/DD is innocent, so DarkO is throwing LotG under the bus to make himself look innocent... basically cutting off his nose to spite his face

Now if both genestealers voted for GND/DD, you might be able to make an argument for the second one. However, I think strategy is simply too implausible to work. However, DarkO and LotG both voted for GND early in the day, so I don't know what to make of that. Also, when both GND and LotG were tied at 5 votes apiece, LotG voted for Mekboy, basically offing himself, even without DarkO putting an extra vote on him later. Was he trying to remove his vote for an innocent so he wouldn't look suspicious and simply miscount? Or was he trying to get the ball rolling to try to save him and his scummy partner? That's something we need to figure out.

Looking beyond GND/DD, I'm not sure who is the next most viable suspect.

OOC:: Who did Arnheiner replace again?

If you must know, lotg was going to be lynched whether I voted for him or not.

Gornall voted for lotg, making gnd and lotg, both 5
lotg was voting for gnd, but changed to mekboy. This made gnd 4, lotg 5.
I voted for lotg 3 hours before the end of the day. If I had left it, lotg would have died anyway.

I do not see it as inevitable that we have to lynch Dark_O today. Definitely he will be lynched, but not 100% certain it will be today. If we thought someone else was a 'stealer after a few more days of discussion, we could go for them too.

If the other 'stealer is not gnd/dd I would be looking at BrotherStynier and Mekboy. BrotherStynier's reactions bother me, as does his continuing low post count, whereas I just have a funny feeling about Mekboy. His close looks at post counts etc.. made me cut him some slack, but now I am just starting to get a feeling. Nothing I can pin down, and nothing I would vote on, but... a feeling.

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:If you must know, lotg was going to be lynched whether I voted for him or not.

Gornall voted for lotg, making gnd and lotg, both 5
lotg was voting for gnd, but changed to mekboy. This made gnd 4, lotg 5.
I voted for lotg 3 hours before the end of the day. If I had left it, lotg would have died anyway.

Then why did your partner in crime (LotG) kill himself?

I don't actually think he did kill himself. Drk_O was the last to vote for LoTG if I do remember right.

OOC: Sorry for not posting as regularly as usual, I've had a busy school week.

Deff Dread red Edition wrote:I don't actually think he did kill himself. Drk_O was the last to vote for LoTG if I do remember right.

OOC: Sorry for not posting as regularly as usual, I've had a busy school week.

No, DarkO is right. LotG and GND/DD were tied at 5 with GND/DD holding the tiebreaker. However, LotG switched his vote from GND/DD to Mekboy, dropping GND/DD to 4 votes and leaving LotG with 5 (and now the tiebreaker). It would have taken a two vote swing to save LotG at that point. So it is quite possible that DarkO recognized that LotG was probably done for and jumped on him to try to look innocent. But why did LotG switch off of GND/DD?

Either because he was a nutbar, or to add/remove suspicion from gnd/dd or Mekboy.

Fifty wrote:Either because he was a nutbar, or to add/remove suspicion from gnd/dd or Mekboy.

Why do you mention Mekboy?

Why do you bold Mekboy?