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Thanks! It's funny but it's definitely one of those shows that my wife and I will NOT share. It's not the zombie brutality that I think she'd care about... it's the human brutality.. specifically when it involves the kids on the show, that would push her over the edge.

For myself... I can't help but think that if that poor boy survives... he's going to be a really screwed up human being. Probably very well adapted to his environment, but with a morality and logical process that wouldn't be recognizable as within the parameters of anything we'd consider "normal".

 Gitsplitta wrote:
Thanks! It's funny but it's definitely one of those shows that my wife and I will NOT share. It's not the zombie brutality that I think she'd care about... it's the human brutality.. specifically when it involves the kids on the show, that would push her over the edge.

For myself... I can't help but think that if that poor boy survives... he's going to be a really screwed up human being. Probably very well adapted to his environment, but with a morality and logical process that wouldn't be recognizable as within the parameters of anything we'd consider "normal".

The human element is want makes this show interesting...

Along the same vein as Dexter... do we or do not root for a serial killer?

 Gitsplitta wrote:
Thanks! It's funny but it's definitely one of those shows that my wife and I will NOT share. It's not the zombie brutality that I think she'd care about... it's the human brutality.. specifically when it involves the kids on the show, that would push her over the edge.

For myself... I can't help but think that if that poor boy survives... he's going to be a really screwed up human being. Probably very well adapted to his environment, but with a morality and logical process that wouldn't be recognizable as within the parameters of anything we'd consider "normal".

She may surprise you-give it a shot with her (if you haven't tried already). My sister isn't big on blood and brutality, hates anything horror, including ALL zombie movies, and she's addicted to the show. It never hurts to try, right?

And why should Carl be too upset? If rumors are true, he should be snuggling up to Maggie's sister soon. Every thirteen year old boys dream: getting an older woman.

 Gitsplitta wrote:
I just got through all the back episodes (on video) and have gotten caught up after a friend at work convinced me to give this show a try. Psychologically & emotionally brutal show.

Now I'm hooked.

What the?! Gits is in the OT and Marty isn't?! The Mayans are right...

Lol, the show is good man, after Farmville: The Walking Dead that was season 2, I almost gave season 3 a pass, but that first episode was just totally worth it.

As to the current events, this episode was decent. I felt that it progressed the various storylines along nicely, though knowing that Rick was bonkers kinda turned me off to those bits, but the Carl and Darrel moment was pretty cool, shows even a bamf like Darrel, who's definitely had a rough life, ain't got gak on a kid growing up in this hell hole. I shudder to see what happens when Carl's sister grows up in this (assuming she has a different life than her comic version)

I didn't mean to suggest "upset"... I just think that he's likely to end up much more like ... oh damn... the "best friend"... rather than his father. Pragmatic in the extreme with a sense of right and wrong that is purely self-determined rather than adhering to any socially accepted or generated standard. (granted... there's not much left of any society... but I think you get my drift)

I think the show is great because the real "horror" isn't the zombies... though the action is driven by the zombies. The horror comes from what the surviving human beings do to one another to survive, gain power, etc.

 timetowaste85 wrote:

 Glorioski wrote:

 FITZZ wrote:
I agree that Andrea is more than likely "safe" for a while, and though it's a departure from the books I'm enjoying the whole storyline between her, Michonne and The Governor.
Truth be told, I actually like " TV series" Andrea much more than "comic book" Andrea, as the character is much more interesting in the show.

She comes across as a bit of a slut.

She sleeps with one guy, and that makes her a slut? I hate to see what humping the whole town would make her.

Two actually but it's how she acts.

 Glorioski wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:

 Glorioski wrote:

 FITZZ wrote:
I agree that Andrea is more than likely "safe" for a while, and though it's a departure from the books I'm enjoying the whole storyline between her, Michonne and The Governor.
Truth be told, I actually like " TV series" Andrea much more than "comic book" Andrea, as the character is much more interesting in the show.

She comes across as a bit of a slut.

She sleeps with one guy, and that makes her a slut? I hate to see what humping the whole town would make her.

Two actually but it's how she acts.

Who else did she sleep with? I saw all of season 1 twice, and season 2 once...I don't remember her sleeping with anyone except the Governor. And while she got hot and heavy with him in just a few days, I don't see what they did as her being too slutty. I didn't really LIKE Andrea, mind you, but I don't see anything she's doing as wrong at this point. She's even starting to grow on me. Even so, everyone faces LIKELY death every day-I don't think terms like slut or whore or anything else is really the norm anymore: I expect Carl (13) will probably hook up with Maggie's sister (16-17) soon, and I don't think most people are going to be bothered by it-is it technically statutory rape? Yes. But in this new world, I don't think people are gonna care-they got some happiness together in the bleakest world possible. And I'm pretty sure Rick isn't going to arrest her for sleeping with his boy.


Also, Alfndrate, can you PM me what happens to Carl's sister in the comics? I'm curious, and it has no relation to what will happen in the show, but I don't want it spoiled for others. And who DOESN'T click the spoiler button every time.

She slept with Rick's BFF after they were out shooting or some such.

 Gitsplitta wrote:
She slept with the friend after they were out shooting or some such.

Oh, dur. Now I remember. :Facepalm: Still, two guys in 3 seasons? Each about a year apart? Sex with 2 different people in the span of a year isn't a slut. If it is, man I don't want to know what I was in my first college.

I think Glorioski's right... her actions don't support it... but it's the image the directors give her. She's always got that bedroom eyed, shirt off the shoulder, colligin-injected lip, tousled hair look. Gives the impression she's loose, even though her behavior would say otherwise.

 Gitsplitta wrote:
She's always got that bedroom eyed, shirt off the shoulder, colligin-injected lip, tousled hair look. Gives the impression she's loose

Right. This is what I mean.

 Gitsplitta wrote:
I think Glorioski's right... her actions don't support it... but it's the image the directors give her. She's always got that bedroom eyed, shirt off the shoulder, colligin-injected lip, tousled hair look. Gives the impression she's loose, even though her behavior would say otherwise.

That, I can't argue with.

The lip augmentation irks me a bit too.

I think she's hot!

Maggie is hot. Especially now she is dressing like Milla Jovovich in Resident Evil (anyone else notice this?). Andrea is alright but she had a better looking sister that she could have died in the place of.

Back to half serious talk though I thought the dialogue between Andrea and that wall bow woman was poor either because of the dialogue itself or the actor's delivery (not sure which). Anyonw else agree? The part where they are talking about killing their family.

Yeah, it was very awkward. The whole situation seemed pretty contrived to me.

 Glorioski wrote:
Maggie is hot. Especially now she is dressing like Milla Jovovich in Resident Evil (anyone else notice this?). Andrea is alright but she had a better looking sister that she could have died in the place of.

Back to half serious talk though I thought the dialogue between Andrea and that wall bow woman was poor either because of the dialogue itself or the actor's delivery (not sure which). Anyonw else agree? The part where they are talking about killing their family.

Agreed-Maggie is the most attractive girl/woman in the show. Damn Glenn...my second favorite male character (after Daryl), and he gets the awesomely hot girl. Apparently she was in Van Wilder 2: Rise of Taj as well, I really don't remember her in it-saw it once, years ago, wasn't worth watching again. I thought the prequel to that was better, even though that was bad too. Redeeming quality? Johnny Cage played Van's father in the prequel!!

 Glorioski wrote:
Maggie is hot. Especially now she is dressing like Milla Jovovich in Resident Evil (anyone else notice this?). Andrea is alright but she had a better looking sister that she could have died in the place of.

I was thinking more like Tomb Raider, but yes...

 Glorioski wrote:
Maggie is hot. Especially now she is dressing like Milla Jovovich in Resident Evil (anyone else notice this?). Andrea is alright but she had a better looking sister that she could have died in the place of.

Back to half serious talk though I thought the dialogue between Andrea and that wall bow woman was poor either because of the dialogue itself or the actor's delivery (not sure which). Anyonw else agree? The part where they are talking about killing their family.

That scene sucked >_< But I felt that it highlighted just how unprepared most of the citizens of Woodbury really are. You have the Governor, Merle, Andrea, and maybe nameless henchman 1 through 3 who actually know wtf they're doing when it comes to killing walkers.

They seemed pretty good at taking down those US army guys. I think the governor was probably fobbing Andrea off when she said she wanted to work the wall and put her with the pretend wall lookout club.

Of all the characters TV Andrea is the worst compared to her comic book version. In the book she's super badass. She'd be the number 1 pick on anyone's zombie survival team. Everyone leans on her zombie killing abilities heavily.

In the show she's useless....and a slut.

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Of all the characters TV Andrea is the worst compared to her comic book version. In the book she's super badass. She'd be the number 1 pick on anyone's zombie survival team. Everyone leans on her zombie killing abilities heavily.

In the show she's useless....and a slut.

Just remember, she sleeps with Dale in the comics... that splash-page cannot be unseen

She loved Dale. In the show she just sleeps with whatever alpha male sleaze bag happens to be around.

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Of all the characters TV Andrea is the worst compared to her comic book version. In the book she's super badass. She'd be the number 1 pick on anyone's zombie survival team. Everyone leans on her zombie killing abilities heavily.

In the show she's useless....and a slut.

My main problem with Andrea is her inconsistency. She swings from strong independent woman, to codependent on anyone who shows strength, to fierce individual. She's like that needy bipolar chick everyone hated in high school.

Lauren Cohan is lovely - although not as hot as when she played the wonderful Bela in Supernatural! a nd she was not bad in Vampire Diaries but has alot of competition in the hotness stakes there!

I am not keen on Andrea in WD but accept its just not super cool Comic book Andrea :(

 Mr Morden wrote:
Lauren Coren is lovely - although not as hot as when she played the wonderful Bela in Supernatural! a nd she was not bad in Vampire Diaries but has alot of competition in the hotness stakes there!

I am not keen on Andrea in WD but accept its just not super cool Comic book Andrea :(

Don't forget the hot cop in Silent Hill.

Her character in WD is just a distraction at this point. Adding nothing to the story at this point.

Laurie Holden is Andrea,

Lauren Cohan is Maggie

Hey at leasts it's a bit less confusing now...

My battlebuddy and I get together every Sunday to play Warha,mmer and watch Walking Dead. With the episodes getting deeper and deeper, we wait until Talking Dead starts to play.

I am more concerned over the phone calls than the fact that Glenn and Maggie have been kidnapped. Rick can't lose it, at least, not yet...

To me it looked like Rick gained a bit of composure after the phone calls.