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 Alfndrate wrote:
Let's face it, they did rob him...

True.

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Rick shot first. Morgan shot a zombie and told them verbally to leave his turf. Then Michonne was like, that's a nice gun he's got there, so Rick tried to kill him.

I'd have to watch it again, but I do remember the thing where he's telling them to leave their guns and shoes... which you assume is a near death sentence in zombie apocalypse.

It's not 'good guy' behavior, but perhaps it is pragmatism, and there is no question they would have killed him if it were anyone else but Morgan. Why leave a guy like that tied up and risk him or his friends coming back at you?

There's also the fact that Rick may not have done this and may have turned back if it were not his town and he still felt he had a right to some of the guns there.

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:

 Meade wrote:
Really awesome episode there, and though I understand why Morgan is the way he is I'd also love to see more of him only because Lenny James is awesome.

Leaving the guy on the side of the road, very understandable why they did that. In a normal civilization it is hard to hitchhike but in a lawless world where other groups may be enemies? Don't think so.

Rick is still below the governor's level, they shot Morgan mainly because he was firing on him and they tried to talk first.

Rick shot first. Morgan shot a zombie and told them verbally to leave his turf. Then Michonne was like, that's a nice gun he's got there, so Rick tried to kill him.

eeeh... I'm a little sketchy on the, "Rick tried to kill him." when he shot first. With the grace and accuracy they've been showing, they seem really good at going for the head with little to no trouble, as referenced by the cafe scene later. Carl caps a few of them in the head without any trouble, while on the move. Michonne did say she could get to him, thus Rick probably shot as a distraction.

Apparently zombie heads are magnetic and draw in bullets. They've been terrible shooting at people. Note the millions of rounds missed in the prison attack.

If a guy with an assault rifle in an elevated position has his gun trained on you you better not take a distraction shot.

In the assault on the prison rick and daryle weren't there and the rest of the group were caught off-guard then pinned into cover so they couldn't risk showing their heads to get accurate shots

Interesting episode, not a whole lot of action, but it looks like Fitzz and I were decently right about the tombs and the governor, at least from what I saw of the previews.

 Alfndrate wrote:
Interesting episode, not a whole lot of action,.

Glenn might disagree.

 Meade wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
Interesting episode, not a whole lot of action,.

Glenn might disagree.

This is true, I was a little caught off guard by that... Though I posted on twitter,

"Enter Merle, 3, 2, 1..." thinking he'd walk in on them... this was not the case :-\

The zombie killing contest was cool. Male bonding.

Good episode, the sumit between Rick and the Gov was well done, put me in mind of Mid East peace talks.
Wondering if the interpersonal "bonding" between Daryl/ Martinez and Herschell/Milton is setting tthe stage for an impending coupe in Woodbury, seems from the trailer for next week at least Andrea and Milton(maybe) will be gunning for the Gov.
With only three episodes left, I'm also begining to wonder if they'll actually be able to wrap up the storyline or if the season will end in a cliffhanger.

 FITZZ wrote:
Good episode, the sumit between Rick and the Gov was well done, put me in mind of Mid East peace talks.
Wondering if the interpersonal "bonding" between Daryl/ Martinez and Herschell/Milton is setting tthe stage for an impending coupe in Woodbury, seems from the trailer for next week at least Andrea and Milton(maybe) will be gunning for the Gov.
With only three episodes left, I'm also begining to wonder if they'll actually be able to wrap up the storyline or if the season will end in a cliffhanger.

The previews for the next three episodes suggest it'll be decently action packed.

Also, I like how they gave Herschel his leg back lol Must have been a pain for the effects department to keep removing it from every shot.

I've noticed a lot of "from the waist up" shots of old Herschel lately, cuts down on the CGI budget.
I agree, the remaining three episodes are going to be loaded with action, lots of pow pow urrgh to come.
I do have to admit that since the series has taken so many twist from the source material, I find myself second guessing what will happen next quite a bit...not that that's a bad thing mind you...been a while since I was actually "on the edge of my seat" with any series and it's nice for a change.
I'm still putting my money on the prison being over run by walkers and the group eveentually taking over in Woodbury...but we'll see.

I hope they don't take over Woodbury but move on somehow. The series gets boring when they stay in one place. Taking over the prison, Atlanta, the CDC, all exciting. Hershels farm for a whole season, not so much.

 FITZZ wrote:
I've noticed a lot of "from the waist up" shots of old Herschel lately, cuts down on the CGI budget.
I agree, the remaining three episodes are going to be loaded with action, lots of pow pow urrgh to come.
I do have to admit that since the series has taken so many twist from the source material, I find myself second guessing what will happen next quite a bit...not that that's a bad thing mind you...been a while since I was actually "on the edge of my seat" with any series and it's nice for a change.
I'm still putting my money on the prison being over run by walkers and the group eveentually taking over in Woodbury...but we'll see.

Definitely, unless the Horse Trailer of walkers is for the front yard again.

Also, was it Rick that saw Tyreese in the scope of his rifle in the preview? I know they didn't show it, but the immediate next shot was of Tyreese with these wide eyes...

 Alfndrate wrote:

 FITZZ wrote:
I've noticed a lot of "from the waist up" shots of old Herschel lately, cuts down on the CGI budget.
I agree, the remaining three episodes are going to be loaded with action, lots of pow pow urrgh to come.
I do have to admit that since the series has taken so many twist from the source material, I find myself second guessing what will happen next quite a bit...not that that's a bad thing mind you...been a while since I was actually "on the edge of my seat" with any series and it's nice for a change.
I'm still putting my money on the prison being over run by walkers and the group eveentually taking over in Woodbury...but we'll see.

Definitely, unless the Horse Trailer of walkers is for the front yard again.

Also, was it Rick that saw Tyreese in the scope of his rifle in the preview? I know they didn't show it, but the immediate next shot was of Tyreese with these wide eyes...

Not sure if it was Rick placing a scope on Tyreese, it could have been.
The depictions of Tyreese in the series is one of those " twist" from source material I mentioned and I'm really interested in seeing what part he'll be playing in the upcoming events.
So many characters that ( again according to source material) should still be alive , have died and others are cast in entirely new directions, so even having read all the books it's damned tricky trying to figure what's going to happen next...
I found myself wondering the other night as to if Daryl will end up exitinng in the same manner that Lori did in the comics ( giveen his bond with Little Ass Kicker)...but I'm still doubtfull network TV would let that pass.

Daryl is a cash cow for the series. He's not going anywhere.

 Byte wrote:
Daryl is a cash cow for the series. He's not going anywhere.

How do you figure?

I think at this point, the series will deviate quite a bit from the novels...

 whembly wrote:

 Byte wrote:
Daryl is a cash cow for the series. He's not going anywhere.

How do you figure?

I think at this point, the series will deviate quite a bit from the novels...

By "series" he means the TV series. Daryl isn't even in the comic.


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So would you guys have sold out Michonne to The Govenor if you were in Rick's position?

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:



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So would you guys have sold out Michonne to The Govenor if you were in Rick's position?

No... because, as bat-gak crazy the Govenor is... I wouldn't trust it at all.

Besides, Michoone sorta proved herself in the group...she's one of them.

 whembly wrote:

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:



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So would you guys have sold out Michonne to The Govenor if you were in Rick's position?

No... because, as bat-gak crazy the Govenor is... I wouldn't trust it at all.

Besides, Michoone sorta proved herself in the group...she's one of them.

Sure, I like Michonne too but this is his son and baby daughter in the line of fire soon.

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 Byte wrote:
Daryl is a cash cow for the series. He's not going anywhere.

How do you figure?

I think at this point, the series will deviate quite a bit from the novels...

By "series" he means the TV series. Daryl isn't even in the comic.


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So would you guys have sold out Michonne to The Govenor if you were in Rick's position?

For some tweenkies I would have. She's annoying anyway.

 whembly wrote:

 Byte wrote:
Daryl is a cash cow for the series. He's not going anywhere.

How do you figure?

I think at this point, the series will deviate quite a bit from the novels...

He is one of the biggest draws on the show. If you don't know this...

Ratings = money in the TV biz friend.

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:



Automatically Appended Next Post:
So would you guys have sold out Michonne to The Govenor if you were in Rick's position?

No... because, as bat-gak crazy the Govenor is... I wouldn't trust it at all.

Besides, Michoone sorta proved herself in the group...she's one of them.

Sure, I like Michonne too but this is his son and baby daughter in the line of fire soon.

I'm arguing that it doesn't matter...I would've known that even if I had given up Michonne, the Govenor would still attempt to wipe out the prison (as he said later on).

 Byte wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 Byte wrote:
Daryl is a cash cow for the series. He's not going anywhere.

How do you figure?

I think at this point, the series will deviate quite a bit from the novels...

He is one of the biggest draws on the show. If you don't know this...

Ratings = money in the TV biz friend.

He's also the star of the upcoming Walking Dead FPS as well. Dude is part of the brand now, as much as Rick or Carl as far as the TV series goes. I think out of all the actors in the show, he was the only one that had a fan base from the start, because of his prominent role in Boondock Saints 1+2.

 whembly wrote:

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:



Automatically Appended Next Post:
So would you guys have sold out Michonne to The Govenor if you were in Rick's position?

No... because, as bat-gak crazy the Govenor is... I wouldn't trust it at all.

Besides, Michoone sorta proved herself in the group...she's one of them.

Sure, I like Michonne too but this is his son and baby daughter in the line of fire soon.

I'm arguing that it doesn't matter...I would've known that even if I had given up Michonne, the Govenor would still attempt to wipe out the prison (as he said later on).

Yes, the thing is he doesn't really mean it anyway. Afterwards he says to Milton "I just said that so I could betray them on that deal, totally going to betray him!" Kind of wish they didn't have that scene so the choice seems harder.

 Frazzled wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:
So would you guys have sold out Michonne to The Govenor if you were in Rick's position?

For some tweenkies I would have. She's annoying anyway.

Michonne is my favorite character. No way I would have sold her out to that arse.

No one ever has anything to say about the Gov, Rick can tell he is not a nice guy. I would still be suspicious of the Gov.

So what will you do for a Twinkie?

 whembly wrote:

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:



Automatically Appended Next Post:
So would you guys have sold out Michonne to The Govenor if you were in Rick's position?

No... because, as bat-gak crazy the Govenor is... I wouldn't trust it at all.

Besides, Michoone sorta proved herself in the group...she's one of them.

Sure, I like Michonne too but this is his son and baby daughter in the line of fire soon.

I'm arguing that it doesn't matter...I would've known that even if I had given up Michonne, the Govenor would still attempt to wipe out the prison (as he said later on).

That's it exactly. Clearly he's batpoop crazy and violent before Michonne arrives and will be after he eliminates her. The Michonne question is largely irrelevant to the security of Rick's people.

He's clearly in love with his own smarts, and in this case he must mistakenly think Rick is stupid.

Am I the only one who was freaked out the whole time that Glenn & Maggie were out in the cage talking that they weren't keeping an eye out and that a sniper shot was invariably incoming? I was just picturing them kissing when one of the two of them gets shot...and then when that didn't happen and they abandoned their post to get it on, I then figured: 'okay they're going to get attacked now that nobody is keeping watch!'

I think the show has pulled the 'boy who cried wolf' (or the opposite of that perhaps) on me too many times with horrible things occurring in the middle of serene moments that I can never be relaxed and enjoy what's actually going on without thinking that something horrible is just about to happen.

I had the exact same thought yak. I was yelling at them to get back to watch! I was sure some walkers were going to break through at least.

 yakface wrote:

Am I the only one who was freaked out the whole time that Glenn & Maggie were out in the cage talking that they weren't keeping an eye out and that a sniper shot was invariably incoming? I was just picturing them kissing when one of the two of them gets shot...and then when that didn't happen and they abandoned their post to get it on, I then figured: 'okay they're going to get attacked now that nobody is keeping watch!'

I think the show has pulled the 'boy who cried wolf' (or the opposite of that perhaps) on me too many times with horrible things occurring in the middle of serene moments that I can never be relaxed and enjoy what's actually going on without thinking that something horrible is just about to happen.

I thought they were going to get shot at first, but quickly let that thought leave my head once they started making out, I didn't think the makers of the show would scar the audience that badly after what happened with the prisoner and Carol... I just assumed Merle would walk in.

 yakface wrote:

Am I the only one who was freaked out the whole time that Glenn & Maggie were out in the cage talking that they weren't keeping an eye out and that a sniper shot was invariably incoming? I was just picturing them kissing when one of the two of them gets shot...and then when that didn't happen and they abandoned their post to get it on, I then figured: 'okay they're going to get attacked now that nobody is keeping watch!'

I think the show has pulled the 'boy who cried wolf' (or the opposite of that perhaps) on me too many times with horrible things occurring in the middle of serene moments that I can never be relaxed and enjoy what's actually going on without thinking that something horrible is just about to happen.

Didn't really expect either of them to be shot during the "make up" talk , The Carol and Axel scene was only a few episodes ago after all.
I did however expect something to go wrong during Glenn & Maggie's "make up session" in the garage.

 yakface wrote:

too many times with horrible things occurring in the middle of serene moments that I can never be relaxed and enjoy what's actually going on without thinking that something horrible is just about to happen.

Just as you should be. It's a zombie apocalypse afterall!