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 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Ya, I think that was one if the best episodes of the series actually. I knew it was going to happen because I could see them borrowing the storyline from the comic albeit with different characters but I think the show actually handled it better. In the comic it just comes out of nowhere whereas the show had more foreshadowing, discussion and thinking on it. The only thing I miss was that in the comic

Spoiler:

Carl takes care of the situation and it's a big turning point for his character.

I agree with you. In some ways I feel like the show has stolen from Rick and Carl to give to Carol.

Yeah, it has a little bit, but Carol has really grown into a great character from a very soft, very Mary Sue character at the beginning of the series.

I hope we still some of those big growth moments from Carl, so I'm looking forward to that.

But what a good episode overall.

Watching tonight ....but really wanting to know whats happened to Beth - much less interested in Rick and co.

Now that was a good episode.

It had a great blend of tragedy, tenderness, violence, insanity and humanity. Loved last week's episode!

Oh man!!! This weeks episode!!! Jeez I did NOT expect that at all!!! Crazy kid!

I've got to say, I was more expecting it to go the other way round, than the way it did.

 gorgon wrote:

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Ya, I think that was one if the best episodes of the series actually. I knew it was going to happen because I could see them borrowing the storyline from the comic albeit with different characters but I think the show actually handled it better. In the comic it just comes out of nowhere whereas the show had more foreshadowing, discussion and thinking on it. The only thing I miss was that in the comic

Spoiler:

Carl takes care of the situation and it's a big turning point for his character.

I agree with you. In some ways I feel like the show has stolen from Rick and Carl to give to Carol.

yeah, I feel like rick and carl are 100% different characters

Well there go my crackpot theories about Carol covering up for Lizzie murdering Karen and David to turn them.

I was correct about Lizzie being the show equivalent of Ben though it was rather obvious so I guess I don't deserve any credit.



Time for my next crackpot theory.

I love how dark the show is getting now. Maybe Beth...



That would be a particularly ironic twist - like father, like daughter.

Regarding a certain group in the comics...



Regarding Beth...

 gorgon wrote:
Regarding a certain group in the comics...

Spoiler:

Didn't the Hunters turn to cannibalism because they were lousy hunters? These guys look like a bunch of Daryls. They don't feel right to me, but maybe the Hunters have changed for the show.

Well we havn't seen them hunt yet. Unless you count people...The promo shows one of them trying to force Daryl to hand over the rabbit he hunted.

Regarding Beth...

Spoiler:

I'd have to rewatch the episode, but I'm pretty sure that the car that sped away had a cross on the back. So maybe that's related to Gabriel? But you're right, otherwise it does feel like Beth is getting the rest of Dale's arc from the comic.

Again, a lot of things seem familiar from the comic...they've just been run through a blender for a bit.

Yeah that seems to be a recurring theme for the show. They're reusing a lot of character arcs and events from the comics, but giving them to different characters. Keeps it familiar, but a little unpredictable.

 gorgon wrote:
Regarding a certain group in the comics...

Spoiler:

Didn't the Hunters turn to cannibalism because they were lousy hunters? These guys look like a bunch of Daryls. They don't feel right to me, but maybe the Hunters have changed for the show.

Regarding Beth...

Spoiler:

I'd have to rewatch the episode, but I'm pretty sure that the car that sped away had a cross on the back. So maybe that's related to Gabriel? But you're right, otherwise it does feel like Beth is getting the rest of Dale's arc from the comic.

Again, a lot of things seem familiar from the comic...they've just been run through a blender for a bit.

No they're not going to have cannibals eating a girl on a US TV show. Come on people. Remember what we're talking about.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Yeah that seems to be a recurring theme for the show. They're reusing a lot of character arcs and events from the comics, but giving them to different characters. Keeps it familiar, but a little unpredictable.

Spoiler:

Maybe Tyreese will be the one to get his head smashed in by Negan? Hes already in the comics so anything goes for him now.

You crazy people with all your comic-book based discussions.

I know you're trying to tempt me into clicking all those spoiler boxes, but I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT, DO YOU HEAR!

I don't need to read all about your awesome insights, so there.

 yakface wrote:

You crazy people with all your comic-book based discussions.

I know you're trying to tempt me into clicking all those spoiler boxes, but I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT, DO YOU HEAR!

I don't need to read all about your awesome insights, so there.

Its my understanding

No they're not going to have cannibals eating a girl on a US TV show. Come on people. Remember what we're talking about.

Given the recent episodes events plus previous episodes I am not so sure.................

They emphasised how sweet Beth is and sadly there seems to have been foreshadowing -

last sunday's episode was pretty intense towards the end, even if i did see it coming.

i'm really excited to see what they cram into the last two episodes. most likely all the groups will converge on "terminus" at the same time, thus setting the stage for the next season.

either way, go daryl!

 yakface wrote:

You crazy people with all your comic-book based discussions.

I know you're trying to tempt me into clicking all those spoiler boxes, but I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT, DO YOU HEAR!

I don't need to read all about your awesome insights, so there.

This is almost certainly going to happen in the finale.




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 Frazzled wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
Regarding a certain group in the comics...

Spoiler:

Didn't the Hunters turn to cannibalism because they were lousy hunters? These guys look like a bunch of Daryls. They don't feel right to me, but maybe the Hunters have changed for the show.

Regarding Beth...

Spoiler:

I'd have to rewatch the episode, but I'm pretty sure that the car that sped away had a cross on the back. So maybe that's related to Gabriel? But you're right, otherwise it does feel like Beth is getting the rest of Dale's arc from the comic.

Again, a lot of things seem familiar from the comic...they've just been run through a blender for a bit.

No they're not going to have cannibals eating a girl on a US TV show. Come on people. Remember what we're talking about.

Season 1.
A zombified little girl had her brains blown out on-screen in the very first episode.

Season 2.
A little girl (Sofia) was bitten off-screen, and when her zombified corpse was found her brains were blown out on-screen .

Season 3.
A pregnant woman was killed on-screen by an emergency caesarean, her brains blown out off-screen by her own son before reanimation, her corpse was completely eaten off screen by a walker that was then discovered by her distraught husband on-screen.

Season 4.
We had a little girl (Megan) bitten on-screen by a zombie, and then she bled to death as her mother desperately carried her away to get help.
An old kindly man was slowly and incompetently beheaded on-screen, and spent several minutes choking on his blood until the beheading was completed.
We had the off-screen bait & switch with Judith's bloody baby seat in Ep 8 that fooled everyone for several weeks into thinking a baby had been eaten by zombies off screen.
We had a disturbed girl Lizzie attempt to smother baby Judith on-screen.
Said disturbed girl Lizzie then gutted her own sister off-screen in the belief that she'd come back as a walker and everything would be ok because Walkers are still people, they're just "different".


And you think that a teenage 17 year old girl (almost an adult anyway, and played by a 28 year old actress) won't have her leg amputated and eaten by cannibals, whether on-screen or off-screen?

Correct. I most certainly do not.

Why?... There have been more shocking things on the show already.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Why?... There have been more shocking things on the show already.

Not really no, not by humans against humans, not against a grrrll.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Why?... There have been more shocking things on the show already.

Not really no, not by humans against humans, not against a grrrll.

The Originals had them slitting the throats of 16 year old girls - true they were supposed to ressurect but Stuff happens...................Vamnpire Diaries had girls and guys being carefully sliced up and put back together so that if you touched them they slid apart ................... and they are CW shows so no swearing

Well we'll just have to agree to disagree (which means I'm right and you just haven't figured that out yet).

Hey I really hope you are right - she's one of my fav characters

Hey kill most of the rest and I wouldn't blink.............. Keep Micholine, Beth, Glenn, Maggie, Carl, Daryl and Carol..............

 Frazzled wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Why?... There have been more shocking things on the show already.

Not really no, not by humans against humans, not against a grrrll.

For a second there, I thought you said "grill".

I thought you crazy Texans grilled everything!?!?!?

So how much time do you all reckon has passed since the fall of the prison? A week? A fortnight? A friend of mine figures about a month, but I don't seem to think so. Thoughts?

 whembly wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Why?... There have been more shocking things on the show already.

Not really no, not by humans against humans, not against a grrrll.

For a second there, I thought you said "grill".

I thought you crazy Texans grilled everything!?!?!?

Well Kiowas and Tonkawa were OTs (original Texans) and yes they infact did barbeque people. Mmmm grilled long pig...


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I'd say a couple of weeks at most actually. I'm thinking all these things are going in parallel.

 Frazzled wrote:
Well Kiowas and Tonkawa were OTs (original Texans) and yes they infact did barbeque people. Mmmm grilled long pig...

Umm. No.

http://www.native-languages.org/iaq13.htm

Karankawa, yes. Kiowa and Tonkawa, no. You were right about them being OT though. So mostly me nitpicking.

The Comanche went to war with the Tonkawa over allegded cannibalism. When you're too gross for the Comanche Empire, somethings wrong...

 Frazzled wrote:
The Comanche went to war with the Tonkawa over allegded cannibalism. When you're too gross for the Comanche Empire, somethings wrong...

Yeah, but that was a pretty standard accusation back in those days. Very few of those accusations were actually correct though. Oh well, I'm way OT.