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He did say "y'all" as in plural. I would assume he may have more than one person with him.

I think the overall plot and idea for this new storyline is fine but, I don't know, the main villain: the woman cop, I'm just not feeling it. She doesn't seem like a good character or actress.

I definitely did find myself 'tuning out' of this episode more than normal.

Admittedly, I was watching it after midnight while playing Rome-2 Total War, which is starting to go horribly wrong.

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
I think the overall plot and idea for this new storyline is fine but, I don't know, the main villain: the woman cop, I'm just not feeling it. She doesn't seem like a good character or actress.

I don't think this new Atlanta group will be around long enough to be the "main villain" of the season.They'll just be yet another in a series of antagonist groups - the Claimed gang, The Terminus Hunters, and now this gang of corrupt Cops - to act as speed bumps for Rick and co.

This weeks episode with Beth was a flashback episode akin to the two Governor centric episodes of last season, to show whats happened to Beth in the days or weeks since she was kidnapped. Meaning, it was "past tense". Next weeks episode is apparently about Abraham's splinter group, which will show what happened the day they left Rick (Daryl returns later that night). So it will be "present tense". Then I think the ep after that will jump to Daryl and Carol, and show how Carol ended up inside the Hosptial, which will again be a "past tense" flashback.

Either way the Atlanta storyline will be wrapped up within one more episode. Carol will infiltrate the hospital, get Beth out, but maybe die herself in the process.

They seem to be jumping all over the place with the chronology this season. Annoying. Instead of Abraham and co. next week, they should have given us Daryl & Carol rescuing Beth (happened at same time as The Hunters' climax). So that would be two consecutive "flashback" episodes with a continuous arc, just like Governor 1 & 2 in S4.

So who is everyone thinking the Big Bad will be?
V Possible comic spoiler. V

 Sinful Hero wrote:
So who is everyone thinking the Big Bad will be?
V Possible comic spoiler. V

Spoiler:

I assume Neegan myself.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:
So who is everyone thinking the Big Bad will be?
V Possible comic spoiler. V

Spoiler:

I assume Neegan myself.

Spoiler:

Rick and co make it to DC by mid season?
Begin to integrate into the Safe Zone and dominate/lead the community.
They start to think they're safe, and the alpha dogs.
Hear about the Saviours, agree to defend the community.
Then comes the finale and BAM!

Lucille, meet head.
Dick, meet throat.

After an entire season and a half of Rick and co. being total bad asses and killing everyone who gets in their way, they're humiliated and taken down a notch (or 10) by Negan and his band of merry psychopaths, and a major, popular character is killed horribly.

For maximum effect, it should be Daryl.
For sentimental effect, it could be Tyreese.

I don't think this season will have a Big bad. I think it'll be small groups all season with Rick finally deciding to head to DC at the Mid Season, then more small groups along the way before they meet

It's really hard to figure out the pace this season. It's been breakneck so far, but then that doesn't mean that they'll get to the next big story stage immediately. I'm just going to enjoy the ride.

Although...

I'v enjoyed every epsiode so far - back to the halicon days of Season 1 - I am happy if they continue to be different from the comics.

Hoping they keep both Beth and Carol alive - 2 of my fav characters - plenty of others to sacrifce for effect

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

Spoiler:

Rick and co make it to DC by mid season?
Begin to integrate into the Safe Zone and dominate/lead the community.
They start to think they're safe, and the alpha dogs.
Hear about the Saviours, agree to defend the community.
Then comes the finale and BAM!

Lucille, meet head.
Dick, meet throat.

After an entire season and a half of Rick and co. being total bad asses and killing everyone who gets in their way, they're humiliated and taken down a notch (or 10) by Negan and his band of merry psychopaths, and a major, popular character is killed horribly.

For maximum effect, it should be Daryl.
For sentimental effect, it could be Tyreese.

I think this season will be mostly about running into various groups surviving in the apocalypse. I don't think we'll get a big bad this season. Them, on the road, is good TV. It's not cheap but thankfully with Madmen getting to over and the ridiculous popularity of the show it doesn't have to be anymore.

We might get one in the season finale but they've shown they don't have to do that. In fact they're rarely done that. Season 1 and 3 ended relatively peacefully. Season 2 ended with the group slightly split but no big guy. Season 4 ended with a super tense situation but had brought almost everyone back together.

Overall I'd say they're not terribly inclined to introduce a "villain" in the final episode of a season. Could change but I don't see it.

All I can say is "In Gimple I trust!"

 Hulksmash wrote:
I think this season will be mostly about running into various groups surviving in the apocalypse. I don't think we'll get a big bad this season. Them, on the road, is good TV. It's not cheap but thankfully with Madmen getting to over and the ridiculous popularity of the show it doesn't have to be anymore.

We might get one in the season finale but they've shown they don't have to do that. In fact they're rarely done that. Season 1 and 3 ended relatively peacefully. Season 2 ended with the group slightly split but no big guy. Season 4 ended with a super tense situation but had brought almost everyone back together.

Overall I'd say they're not terribly inclined to introduce a "villain" in the final episode of a season. Could change but I don't see it.

All I can say is "In Gimple I trust!"

I agree. Hopefully they just won't introduce a season long super villian they must triumph over. That story structure has been done with the Govenor... twice and unsuccessfully imo. I find it boring. I hope they just have a season of zombie world road trip adventuring.

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:


I agree. Hopefully they just won't introduce a season long super villian they must triumph over. That story structure has been done with the Govenor... twice and unsuccessfully imo. I find it boring.

Really?



And I still think The Next Big Bad shows up in this season's finale...

But until then, I too enjoy the On The Road aspect of the show!

 Alpharius wrote:

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:


I agree. Hopefully they just won't introduce a season long super villian they must triumph over. That story structure has been done with the Govenor... twice and unsuccessfully imo. I find it boring.

Really?

Spoiler:

You're going to really love Negan then.

And by love, I mean hate.

And not in a good way.

And I still think The Next Big Bad shows up in this season's finale...

But until then, I too enjoy the On The Road aspect of the show!

The Terminus guy is NOT Negan.

Yeah, I think they already revealed that the brute in the flashback was the crazy guy that they let out of the first container, the guy who was all tattooed up.

That same guy who got eaten by a walker shortly thereafter...

 Alpharius wrote:

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:


I agree. Hopefully they just won't introduce a season long super villian they must triumph over. That story structure has been done with the Govenor... twice and unsuccessfully imo. I find it boring.

Really?

Spoiler:

You're going to really love Negan then.

And by love, I mean hate.

And not in a good way.

And I still think The Next Big Bad shows up in this season's finale...

But until then, I too enjoy the On The Road aspect of the show!

Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:The Terminus guy is NOT Negan.

Alpharius wrote:Yeah, I think they already revealed that the brute in the flashback was the crazy guy that they let out of the first container, the guy who was all tattooed up.

That same guy who got eaten by a walker shortly thereafter...

My apologies then!

 Sinful Hero wrote:

Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
My apologies then!

Spoiler:

I still wonder how they'll manage his language and still have him be Neegan though.

That's kinda the problem - I'd rather they did something different in order to reduce expectations that they may not be able to fulfil or indeed work as well on screen?

By toning him down to one f-bomb per sentence?

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
By toning him down to one f-bomb per sentence?

Too bad they're limited to one per season...
He just becomes a jerk with a bat if he can't drop three f-bombs for every four words out of his mouth!

oh right... seeing huge amounts of realitic, bloody gore, child on child violence, child on adult violence, almost seeing children raped, and generally seeing the worst of the worst in humanity is ok...

but heaven forbid someone swears on the walking dead and its not acceptable for 14 year olds....

jebus... imagine if they showed a zombie nipple or something...

 easysauce wrote:
oh right... seeing huge amounts of realitic, bloody gore, child on child violence, child on adult violence, almost seeing children raped, and generally seeing the worst of the worst in humanity is ok...

but heaven forbid someone swears on the walking dead and its not acceptable for 14 year olds....

jebus... imagine if they showed a zombie nipple or something...

You mean like in the first episode of season one?

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 easysauce wrote:
oh right... seeing huge amounts of realitic, bloody gore, child on child violence, child on adult violence, almost seeing children raped, and generally seeing the worst of the worst in humanity is ok...

but heaven forbid someone swears on the walking dead and its not acceptable for 14 year olds....

jebus... imagine if they showed a zombie nipple or something...

You mean like in the first episode of season one?

Spoiler:

LOL


I think youll notice that they were clever enough to made the nipples rotted off!

its not naked if there aint a nipple! zombie side boob under boob and top boob is ok!

 easysauce wrote:
oh right... seeing huge amounts of realitic, bloody gore, child on child violence, child on adult violence, almost seeing children raped, and generally seeing the worst of the worst in humanity is ok...

but heaven forbid someone swears on the walking dead and its not acceptable for 14 year olds....

jebus... imagine if they showed a zombie nipple or something...

thinking about it, it could be as cool as - esp his death scene:

One of Negans new rules will be no swearing, so he will actually say feth all the time. This is my fething bat luciel, you fething feth. It might make him seam even more psychotic.

 Andrew1975 wrote:
One of Negans new rules will be no swearing, so he will actually say feth all the time. This is my fething bat luciel, you fething feth. It might make him seam even more psychotic.

That would actually be quite interesting. No rape, no swearing. Torture and murder are A-okay though! Keeping a bunch of sadists in check with odd rules like that would be entertaining at least.

I expect that if/when he shows up he'll be dropping more G-Damns and Bee-Yotches, and also use up the show's quota of A-bombs and S-bombs.

Maybe they'll cheat, and the show's incarnation of Negan will have a penchant for making up swear words.

Feth, Frack, Gak...