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I am of two minds. It was a really well done episode, and I enjoyed it from a certain perspective.

But on the other hand it didn't forward the story at all aside from a few cryptic hints, and frankly spending an entire episode giving such a strong farewell to a character breaks with how such things have been treated.

Tyreese was okay, but did he really deserve that kind of sendoff when more important characters didn't?

Overall it just served to highlight to me why I liked Z-Nation so much. Campy? Kind of dumb and terrible? Sure.

But things happen. Quickly.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Two characters in two episodes??

Ha!

I hope all you bloodthirsty types are happy now!

 Alpharius wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Two characters in two episodes??

Ha!

I hope all you bloodthirsty types are happy now!

Not really. It seems like they killed them to spite the audience more than anything else. It's kinda turning me off the show again. Meaningless deaths are the bread and butter of TWD, but that last episode seems like they just killed the person to fill an episode as has been said.

Yeah, didn't feel that way at all to me Sinful Hero.

The episode itself covers that they have traveled over 500 miles. Shows again that humanity is it's worst enemy (in the radio show and the actual development) . Again shows that staying alert is critical in the zombie apocalypse. Played on the idea that everyone has a purpose.

To be honest Tyreese never fit in the new world and he flat refused to adjust. He is very similar to Dawn in that he thinks this is temporary. It's not an attitude that helps you survive.

And I'd say that not many deaths in TWD are meaningless. They are almost invariably a major part of driving the narrative and personalities of those in the show.

But to each their own.

 Hulksmash wrote:

Spoiler:

I did notice the graffiti right off the bat once they enetered the compound that said something along the lines of "Wolves don't Fear". And also from the Talking Dead it seemed it was W's etched into the zombies at the end, not X's. .

Close enough

The wife would have gotten mad at me for rewinding just to read it

But good catch.

What I want to know was what was written on the barn that Michonne was looking at when they were driving to the town.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Yeah, didn't feel that way at all to me Sinful Hero.

The episode itself covers that they have traveled over 500 miles. Shows again that humanity is it's worst enemy (in the radio show and the actual development) . Again shows that staying alert is critical in the zombie apocalypse. Played on the idea that everyone has a purpose.

To be honest Tyreese never fit in the new world and he flat refused to adjust. He is very similar to Dawn in that he thinks this is temporary. It's not an attitude that helps you survive.

And I'd say that not many deaths in TWD are meaningless. They are almost invariably a major part of driving the narrative and personalities of those in the show.

But to each their own.

You said that a lot more diplomatically than I would have.

I mean, to criticize this episode and then hold up Z Nation as what TWD should be doing? Wow. Yeah.

yeah tyrese was too "good" to live, his death was foreshadowed quite a bit.


A fair amount happened in this episode, though I do feel the pace was a bit slow IMO


what was up with the radio though? was that tyrese hallucinating or was it real?

be interesting to see what awaits in DC, if the radio is real, it seems to be foreshadowing the saviours I think

for what its worth, Z nation is actually doing a pretty good job... I never saw a lot of the deaths coming as I did with TWD, but TWD is still the far better show production value wise, both are entertaining.

The radio was the BBC programing his dad used to make them listen to. It was a memory of his childhood. It just happened that that hallucination blended perfectly with the current state of the world 2 years post zombie apocalypse.

 gorgon wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
Yeah, didn't feel that way at all to me Sinful Hero.

The episode itself covers that they have traveled over 500 miles. Shows again that humanity is it's worst enemy (in the radio show and the actual development) . Again shows that staying alert is critical in the zombie apocalypse. Played on the idea that everyone has a purpose.

To be honest Tyreese never fit in the new world and he flat refused to adjust. He is very similar to Dawn in that he thinks this is temporary. It's not an attitude that helps you survive.

And I'd say that not many deaths in TWD are meaningless. They are almost invariably a major part of driving the narrative and personalities of those in the show.

But to each their own.

You said that a lot more diplomatically than I would have.

I mean, to criticize this episode and then hold up Z Nation as what TWD should be doing? Wow. Yeah.

Uhm... I never said anything about Z nation...

 Hulksmash wrote:
The radio was the BBC programing his dad used to make them listen to. It was a memory of his childhood. It just happened that that hallucination blended perfectly with the current state of the world 2 years post zombie apocalypse.

that makes sense.


also,

I just noticed I have barely seen carl play a major role in the episodes in ages


its nice!

Just wait till they get to Alexandria. :p

Tsk Tsk Tsk - no comics talk outside of spoiler tags!

 Hulksmash wrote:
The radio was the BBC programing his dad used to make them listen to. It was a memory of his childhood. It just happened that that hallucination blended perfectly with the current state of the world 2 years post zombie apocalypse.

I read that the person on the radio was Andrew Lincoln in his British accent.

I love this show and the wife and I watch every episode ... just as we do Justified and Archer. The killing of characters is going to happen, some I want to see die (Rick's wife ... I was actually rooting for that) and others I was sad to see go (Herschel).



One more thing ... Carl, get in the house.

dethork wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
The radio was the BBC programing his dad used to make them listen to. It was a memory of his childhood. It just happened that that hallucination blended perfectly with the current state of the world 2 years post zombie apocalypse.

I read that the person on the radio was Andrew Lincoln in his British accent.

Yeah, they pointed that out on the Talking Dead. The idea that even if he was remembering things from the past it might be tinged with a voice that was vaguely familiar or some such. I think Andrew Lincoln wanted to speak normally for a few minutes

 OIIIIIIO wrote:
I love this show and the wife and I watch every episode ... just as we do Justified and Archer. The killing of characters is going to happen, some I want to see die (Rick's wife ... I was actually rooting for that) and others I was sad to see go (Herschel).

Spoiler:

A buddy of mine told me that by this time in the comic, Carl was the only one left alive.

One more thing ... Carl, get in the house.

Hahaha, no.

Currently still alive as of TWD 137:

[SPOILERS]

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 OIIIIIIO wrote:
I love this show and the wife and I watch every episode ... just as we do Justified and Archer. The killing of characters is going to happen, some I want to see die (Rick's wife ... I was actually rooting for that) and others I was sad to see go (Herschel).

Spoiler:

A buddy of mine told me that by this time in the comic, Carl was the only one left alive.

One more thing ... Carl, get in the house.

Hahaha, no.

Currently still alive as of TWD 137:

[SPOILERS]

Spoiler:

Rick
Carl
Andrea
Maggie (and her now 2 year old son Hershel)
Michonne
Rosita
Eugene

I cant unsee that, damn...

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 OIIIIIIO wrote:
I love this show and the wife and I watch every episode ... just as we do Justified and Archer. The killing of characters is going to happen, some I want to see die (Rick's wife ... I was actually rooting for that) and others I was sad to see go (Herschel).

Spoiler:

A buddy of mine told me that by this time in the comic, Carl was the only one left alive.

One more thing ... Carl, get in the house.

Hahaha, no.

Currently still alive as of TWD 137:

[SPOILERS]

Spoiler:

Rick
Carl
Andrea
Maggie (and her now 2 year old son Hershel)
Michonne
Rosita
Eugene

Also

Given the dense pre-zombie population of the eastern seaboard (and one now assumes the post-zombie population as well), why the hell are they going north? There should be roughly 100 million zombies between them and the Canadian border.

For all the Carl haters here, a significant development in his character arc occurred in this week's COMIC BOOK issue.






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 Breotan wrote:
Given the dense pre-zombie population of the eastern seaboard (and one now assumes the post-zombie population as well), why the hell are they going north? There should be roughly 100 million zombies between them and the Canadian border.

Because they figured Washington, being the seat of Federal government with large concentrations of troops, federal facilities and federal emergency services and resources; would have held out the longest. Therefore it should have more resources, weapons, and survivors than the average town or city.



As Eugene says, Washington is their best shot.

TWD comic book talk should have its own thread.

 Byte wrote:
TWD comic book talk should have its own thread.

Why? Just don't read the spoilers.

Thanks to all the guys who take the time to post up what they know about the differences between the show and the comics. Until not that long ago I was not even aware that there was a comic. It is interesting to me how they change things for the TV show, now that I know there is a source material.

The comic is a lot more hardcore than the show- for obvious reasons.
{comic spoiler below}

 Sinful Hero wrote:
The comic is a lot more hardcore than the show- for obvious reasons.
{comic spoiler below}

Spoiler:

Can't have little Timmy tuning in to watch Judith get blown to bits now can we?

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:
The comic is a lot more hardcore than the show- for obvious reasons.
{comic spoiler below}

Spoiler:

Can't have little Timmy tuning in to watch Judith get blown to bits now can we?

Spoiler:

well actually, she doesn't. Lori is shot through the chest, and collapses on top of Judith. If Judith wasn't crushed and smothered by Lori, she gets eaten by walkers.

I really need to go back and reread this series. I keep misremembering things! The comic is still a good bit more...mature? Than the show though. You just can't put some stuff on cable that you can on paper.

Well in this week's issue...



So yes...they are more mature.