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Wow so that was depressing to the max :(



Can't believe him, the priest and "not a scientific genius" are still in it and we have lost Beth and Tyreese.

God job Carole and Daryl are still going or my interest would seriously be fading.

Your spoiler is broken.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Your spoiler is broken.

thanks - fixed

Actually that spoiler is unnecessary. That tv episode has already aired, so it's not a spoiler. It's assumed in this thread that everyone is up to date with the show.

Only details of events in the comics that have not yet occurred on the show need to be spoilers.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Actually that spoiler is unnecessary. That tv episode has already aired, so it's not a spoiler. It's assumed in this thread that everyone is up to date with the show.

Only details of events in the comics that have not yet occurred on the show need to be spoilers.

Ah right only saw it today..........

 Byte wrote:
TWD comic book talk should have its own thread.

Agreed. If only there was some sort of comic book discussion thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/266028.page

Well, I'm getting snarky responses about suggesting a TWD comic book thread, but as I see it... Discuss the TV show here and discuss the comic somewhere else instead of guys constantly teasing and throwing up spoilers in a TV show thread. Seems silly. Dudes cant help themselves but to constantly compare the two.

So someone who reads the comics should go off and make the thread then.

I like comparing the two actually, and why make a different thread for that? Sometimes the comics lead the show a bit
, and sometimes the show does whatever I wants. It's also interesting to discuss how they change character's personality as well.

Having this thread the way it is(show talk unspoilered, comic talk spoilered), let's us keep all the discussion in one thread instead of spreading it out between two. This is basically "The Walking Dead Thread".

So was it just me who found this episode really really depressing - three of us watched it this afternoon and whilst its always been grim it just seemed to say "give up - lifes better that way" and kinda turned me off watching more - I'll give it a few more episodes but I'd rather it did not turn into "The Road"....

I'm pretty sure that was by design. Kinda the "run out of fight" scenario. It was dark and dramatic for sure, actually makes Beth's sudden death seem cheapened somehow.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
Given the dense pre-zombie population of the eastern seaboard (and one now assumes the post-zombie population as well), why the hell are they going north? There should be roughly 100 million zombies between them and the Canadian border.

Because they figured Washington, being the seat of Federal government with large concentrations of troops, federal facilities and federal emergency services and resources; would have held out the longest. Therefore it should have more resources, weapons, and survivors than the average town or city.

Spoiler:

Which the comics show to be true. When they arrive in Washington, there are at least four significant walled settlements with sizeable populations comparable to The Prison (show version - in the comics it was just Rick and friends, the Woodbury survivors did not join them).

As Eugene says, Washington is their best shot.

Yeah, I thought that was fairly obvious?

It might not be the best idea, or the smartest idea, but that's what they're thinking!

In the show at least, they seem to be pretty damn clear on.

"Well, feth it, we've not got any better ideas, so we might as well try..."

Right!

I mean, as far as 'justification' and/or 'the smart play', well...

Well Washington really IS their best option.

It'll take a while, but if the show follows the comics, Eugene will become a VERY important member of the group. He was a douche for lying and manipulating everybody, but he is right about one thing. He IS the smartest member of the group. He's exactly the sort of guy you need when...



By the end of season 6, everybody will love Eugene.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Well Washington really IS their best option.

It'll take a while, but if the show follows the comics, Eugene will become a VERY important member of the group. He was a douche for lying and manipulating everybody, but he is right about one thing. He IS the smartest member of the group. He's exactly the sort of guy you need when...

Spoiler:

you're trying to rebuild civilisation.

You want to build a windmill? Ask Eugene.
You want to study the behaviour of walkers, so you can develop the best tactics for fighting them safely, or how to lure MASSIVE herds away from settlments? Ask Eugene.
You want to plan a trade network and a network of safe secure roads linking settlements? Ask Eugene.

By the end of season 6, everybody will love Eugene.

Whilst risking the wrath of non comic readers - i'll just say Andrea - comparing tv show with comics is not always safe - there is very little thats the same between the two - Andrea is perhaps one of the best loved comic characters and not so much in the show.

back on the Show - I also got a bit confused by where they are now - I thought they got turned back from Washington by massed hordes of the dead and had to back track to Atlanta? So the supposed safe place was nearer to Washington than they got before Eugene had his reverlation? Somewhere in Virginia?

Well, some other place with a similar concentration or cluster of government facilities?



Anyway...I'm just looking forward to seeing,a post apocalyptic White House. Please put that on the show.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Well, some other place with a similar concentration or cluster of government facilities?

Spoiler:

the Alexandria Safe Zone was a self sufficient (power, water etc) emergency shelter for goverent officials and their families.

When Rick arrives, the de facto leader is a freaking Congressman or Senator.

Anyway...I'm just looking forward to seeing,a post apocalyptic White House. Please put that on the show.

my fav Zombie film series did that

Best episode in awhile IMHO.

I love the, "We're starving" with thousands of cicadas buzzing in the background. They just about fly into your hands around here. (yes, water would still be a problem)

Aaron in the house!

We are the Walking Dead!

That made my day.

I actually thought this episode was good, not great. There were real high points, but other points felt much more like filler than anything last week. I guess it probably made the zombie pr0n, endless survival horror on the road fans happy. *shrug*

I like how the writers are continuing to ask whether Rick and company have been out there too long. They got gifted all that water at a moment of extreme need, but were too paranoid to drink it. Um. Eugene made a pretty good decision, actually. They were just about done...so have one person test it. And of the group, he's the least valuable member *RIGHT NOW* other than Judith. They got bailed out by the rain, but I think there's room to question whether they're truly making good decisions right now.

Along those lines...from previews, it doesn't appear that things will go well with Aaron AT ALL. And it does underline the journey they've been on. Aaron would have been welcomed far more warmly by the group even 2 seasons ago.

I thought the episode was disappointing, a lot of filler. We get it, the zombie apocalypse sucks... Even for the frogs and dogs.

 gorgon wrote:
I actually thought this episode was good, not great. There were real high points, but other points felt much more like filler than anything last week. I guess it probably made the zombie pr0n, endless survival horror on the road fans happy. *shrug*

I like how the writers are continuing to ask whether Rick and company have been out there too long. They got gifted all that water at a moment of extreme need, but were too paranoid to drink it. Um. Eugene made a pretty good decision, actually. They were just about done...so have one person test it. And of the group, he's the least valuable member *RIGHT NOW* other than Judith. They got bailed out by the rain, but I think there's room to question whether they're truly making good decisions right now.

Along those lines...from previews, it doesn't appear that things will go well with Aaron AT ALL. And it does underline the journey they've been on. Aaron would have been welcomed far more warmly by the group even 2 seasons ago.

A friend and I watched it last night and ….it wasn't great in our opinion - she did come up with the idea that the warning at the start and every advert break be changed to "Warning strong and obvious metaphors from the beginning and throughout”.

It was again pretty depressing stuff – highlighting that many of those that have survived are far less interesting to me that those the writers killed off.

Daryl and Carol was good, nice to see Beth actually remembered by people, it was not badly done but I need a bit more to keep me watching I think.

I guess it’s a whole episode where the walking jinx didn’t get someone killed so that’s a bonus….

The Aaron bit was good ....

 Byte wrote:
I thought the episode was disappointing, a lot of filler. We get it, the zombie apocalypse sucks... Even for the frogs and dogs.

That's pretty much it over in the comics too.

Over and over.

Rinse and repeat.

And wait until Negan shows up.

Ugh.

I still hold out hope that the TV Series can do better...but I'm not exactly sure how!

I find it humorous that not everyone agrees on what a filler episode is.

To me I'm glad they're reinforcing the hardships of an apocalypse- things had gotten too cozy during the hospital episodes. Practical things like water, food, and shelter will even kill the people who are good at zombie smashing. The show has glossed over the simple things like that before.

 Sinful Hero wrote:
I find it humorous that not everyone agrees on what a filler episode is.

To me I'm glad they're reinforcing the hardships of an apocalypse- things had gotten too cozy during the hospital episodes. Practical things like water, food, and shelter will even kill the people who are good at zombie smashing. The show has glossed over the simple things like that before.

Believe it or not, all that kind of goes without saying or belaying the point. The show has illustrated that plenty, the survivors are always foraging. Heck, there's been cannibals with a whole story arc!

The episode was depressing.

Frankly they've killed off most of the good characters at this point. Wacking Beth and now Tyreese I'm way more blah about watching. Only watched the last episode because the Wife wanted to.

They need to pick a story arc and finish the series.

 Frazzled wrote:
The episode was depressing.

Frankly they've killed off most of the good characters at this point. Wacking Beth and now Tyreese I'm way more blah about watching. Only watched the last episode because the Wife wanted to.

They need to pick a story arc and finish the series.

Just can't disagree with your assessment. Last episode seemed like a show to put commercials in.

Yeah, the show is starting to have significant pacing issues for me, if it wasn't series-linked I can't say I'd be watching it with 100% confidence.