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 Bromsy wrote:
Didn't the leader lady say something about northern Virginia being evacuated in the episode? Which is why the dead - and probably the living by the same measure - haven't been too much of an issue for them.


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 gorgon wrote:
 Bromsy wrote:
Didn't the leader lady say something about northern Virginia being evacuated in the episode? Which is why the dead - and probably the living by the same measure - haven't been too much of an issue for them.


You are correct sir.

That's an interesting thought. Basically it's been an abandoned wilderness area since the apocalypse.

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 Frazzled wrote:
I like that Rick's just "no biggie, we'll just take over." With different music that would be the words of the Bad Guy.


Different music? They are the words of a bad guy. I think the rest of the season will be about how the some of the gang is not quite ready for civilization.

@yakface That's sort of another reason they didn't explain themselves. Rick's final comment of the episode let's you know what he's thinking about. Also his interview when he's talking about "the people out there" and what they are like. He's the people out there too.

 
   
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He's the people out there too.


He never proclaimed that he wasn't.
   
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 Hulksmash wrote:
I feel like they were trying to hard in the preview to make it look like Aaron was shooting at Daryl. Sadly we seem to have another death next week as there is another suprise guest on the Talking Dead. Fingers crossed we don't. We've had enough character deaths this season (Bob, Tyreese, and Beth). We're good for a bit.


Now that's quite the change indeed!

Weren't you part of The Bloodthristy Brigade, clamoring for more Main Character Deaths?!?
   
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 Alpharius wrote:
 Hulksmash wrote:
I feel like they were trying to hard in the preview to make it look like Aaron was shooting at Daryl. Sadly we seem to have another death next week as there is another suprise guest on the Talking Dead. Fingers crossed we don't. We've had enough character deaths this season (Bob, Tyreese, and Beth). We're good for a bit.


Now that's quite the change indeed!

Weren't you part of The Bloodthristy Brigade, clamoring for more Main Character Deaths?!?


Kill 'em all I say!

 
   
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 Alpharius wrote:
 Hulksmash wrote:
I feel like they were trying to hard in the preview to make it look like Aaron was shooting at Daryl. Sadly we seem to have another death next week as there is another suprise guest on the Talking Dead. Fingers crossed we don't. We've had enough character deaths this season (Bob, Tyreese, and Beth). We're good for a bit.


Now that's quite the change indeed!

Weren't you part of The Bloodthristy Brigade, clamoring for more Main Character Deaths?!?


I was in favor of characters dying that I actively disliked or I felt dragged away from the show. They've cleared most of that now

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 Hulksmash wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:
 Hulksmash wrote:
I feel like they were trying to hard in the preview to make it look like Aaron was shooting at Daryl. Sadly we seem to have another death next week as there is another suprise guest on the Talking Dead. Fingers crossed we don't. We've had enough character deaths this season (Bob, Tyreese, and Beth). We're good for a bit.


Now that's quite the change indeed!

Weren't you part of The Bloodthristy Brigade, clamoring for more Main Character Deaths?!?


I was in favor of characters dying that I actively disliked or I felt dragged away from the show. They've cleared most of that now


You were also the leader of the Dakkadakka's Roaming DeathSquad, that lobbied for the killing of all non main characters as well. Hopefully, you're not getting soft and relinquishing that too.

 
   
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 Hulksmash wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:
 Hulksmash wrote:
I feel like they were trying to hard in the preview to make it look like Aaron was shooting at Daryl. Sadly we seem to have another death next week as there is another suprise guest on the Talking Dead. Fingers crossed we don't. We've had enough character deaths this season (Bob, Tyreese, and Beth). We're good for a bit.


Now that's quite the change indeed!

Weren't you part of The Bloodthristy Brigade, clamoring for more Main Character Deaths?!?


I was in favor of characters dying that I actively disliked or I felt dragged away from the show. They've cleared most of that now


I am in the opposite position - killed off ones I liked and kept ones that annoy me :(

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the only death I didnt like was beth, and only cause I liked her character, but it made sense for her to die.

only character im MEH about right now is noah, and im hoping that someone in alexandria ends up being cool but so far they are all meh

 
   
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 Alpharius wrote:
I'd be OK if Noah or Tara volunteered for 'batting practice'...


Me neither but
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Interesting episode. At least Carol didn't kill the kid. I'm sure it won't help Rick's relations with his mom though.

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Mmmm Carol is so dreamy. Excellent.

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So much awesome for an episode "in location". If the farm had been this well done people wouldn't have complained about it nearly as much.

Interesting seeing Rick go almost "Claimer" on Jessie and Carol is scary. Also excellent episode for Daryl and Aaron. He's my favorite character they've introduced for while so far.

Also enough zombie smashing for those who need that on a weekly basis.

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Damn... Carol!

She stole the show in this episode!

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I love how she's all in the "Stepford Wife" mode now...

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Yea she's like a cute trap door spider.

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Hulk, I agree. I think the farm had more constraints, just because you really only had one family and Rick's team there. Interactions were fewer and less complicated. Now you have a whole community to work with, and all kinds of gak that can go down.

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It's funny...here I was thinking that Daryl would have a hard time adjusting -- and he has -- but importantly, he is *willing to try.* Perhaps unlike Rick and Carol right now. And now that I think about that, I guess we should have seen that coming. His endorsement of Tyreese's less-violent plan for Beth's extraction showed that he's his own man -- not just muscle for Rick -- and one who's retained some humanity almost in the face of all odds. Beth's influence, perhaps? And he and Aaron have one of the funnier -- and yet surprisingly believable -- bromances around. Daryl is a more complicated, interesting character than many give credit for, and Reedus really does a great, subtle acting job in the role.

Rick...man o man. The dude almost went caveman there. TAKE WO-MAN NOW! Pete is a jerk, and a couple other things too. But that's not exactly shoot-him-dead-in-the-street material there, constable. Ultimately, Rick will pull out just because of his children. But Carol...boy, I think she's headed down a dark path. And I think this may eventually set up another confrontation between Rick and Carol, with Rick having to make a hugely important decision.

So the Wolves appear to be at the door. They've been dropping hint after hint. Maybe they're an expansion/reformulation of the scavengers from the comics? And what exactly are they doing with the zombies?


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What is it with the "no guns" in the community thing again?

If I were there, I'd be sleeping IN the armory.
   
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ANd yes, they have a wall around the town... but, I'd build smaller walls throughout the towns. So that if someone turns, it's more local.

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ANd yes, they have a wall around the town... but, I'd build smaller walls throughout the towns. So that if someone turns, it's more local.


Or even better, an internal ring with smaller segment walls. That protects against both zombies and intruders.

Aka they just invented the multiwall castle system.

Am I the only one who wants to see Grimes start a coup and form a Ricktatorship? For the good of the people!

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Yeah, as Rick and Crew are starting to maybe get across to them, they are set up fine to keep out a few roving zombies, but they are woefully unprepared to fight a coordinated assault by the living. I mean... not even having a lookout posted. Jesus.
   
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 gorgon wrote:
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So the Wolves appear to be at the door. They've been dropping hint after hint. Maybe they're an expansion/reformulation of the scavengers from the comics? And what exactly are they doing with the zombies?


I don't think so.

It may be "The Whisperers". (the latest hostile group in the current TWD comic issues).

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They may be bringing them forward a Season or two, to give us the "Whisperer" story Arc early before the introduction of the Saviors. Which would delay Negan's debut till next Season.

They seem to fit better with the moniker of "Wolves" better than The Scavengers.The car full of live severed Walker torsos & heads could be supplies. They'll flay the skin and make hides, to use as walker "suits", which they use to make themselves invisible within herds of walkers. The limbs are severed to disable the walkers and make them safe for transport, but they leave the heads "alive" until they're ready to flay the face for masks. Keeping the heads alive possibly delays decay. The Whisperers are, literally, "Wolves in Sheep's Clothing".


Well, rabid sheep perhaps.


They've clearly stalked Rick's group all the way to Washington.

As for branding the Walkers, maybe its a means of communication. Brand a few walkers and let them wander about, or pin them down in a specific location. If another member of their group encounters the walker and sees the brand, they'll know that Friendlies are nearby or were in the area.

Or perhaps its just an ominous threat.
   
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Am I the only one who wants to see Grimes start a coup and form a Ricktatorship? For the good of the people!


Oh sure. Add some zombie heads in jars, and Rick would be all set.

Regarding internal zombie security, it's important to note that the houses have outside doors that they can lock at night and internal doors that they can lock and/or close. The presence of closed doors should contain zombie problems resulting from death in one's sleep, etc. pretty well. It was FAR worse that Rick's group didn't close their cell doors at night in the prison, and they paid dearly for it.

Regarding lookouts, etc., this episode made clear that Deanna wants Alexandria to be something like a real town and not an armed camp. Deanna has very long-term goals and perspective. OTOH, Rick has a highly short-term perspective...do whatever it takes to survive right now and don't sweat the consequences. With Deanna's way may come civilization, but obvious risks now and in the nearer future. With Rick's way comes safety now, but the strong possibility of Alexandria turning into Woodbury, and there's no real future in that.

Can a brother get some synthesis over here?


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It could be the Whisperers, but we haven't seen the Whisperers using vehicles in the comics, only traveling in zombie packs. The zombie parts were in a truck, and the walls at Richmond looked like they were knocked down by a vehicle. That also suggests that this group are raiders, and the motivations of the Whisperers in the comics are very unclear right now.

Anything could be the case, but when I add the differences in the details and timing together, PLUS add the fact that Kirkman probably wouldn't want the show to get ahead of the comic, the Whisperers aren't my leading candidate.

Whatever's going on with this group seems almost...farm-like? I get the impression that they're cultivating and maybe weaponizing zombies? I dunno.

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Regarding internal zombie security, it's important to note that the houses have outside doors that they can lock at night and internal doors that they can lock and/or close. The presence of closed doors should contain zombie problems resulting from death in one's sleep, etc. pretty well. It was FAR worse that Rick's group didn't close their cell doors at night in the prison, and they paid dearly for it.


That doesn't work because if it did, the Zombie plague would never have been an ELE in the first place. As we've seen herds of them can go through fences and push open locked barn doors. Its like a wave thing. Water looks cute unless its a tidal wave crushing by pure force.

Besides they need the innenr walls for bad people as well.


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Yeah it's not the zombies that are the problem.

Kill the undead, fear the humans.

Deanna is too idealistic too early.
   
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No need to spoiler tag TV related talk in this thread...


We're making comparisons between TV characters and possible counterparts in the comics.
   
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 Frazzled wrote:
Regarding internal zombie security, it's important to note that the houses have outside doors that they can lock at night and internal doors that they can lock and/or close. The presence of closed doors should contain zombie problems resulting from death in one's sleep, etc. pretty well. It was FAR worse that Rick's group didn't close their cell doors at night in the prison, and they paid dearly for it.


That doesn't work because if it did, the Zombie plague would never have been an ELE in the first place. As we've seen herds of them can go through fences and push open locked barn doors. Its like a wave thing. Water looks cute unless its a tidal wave crushing by pure force.

Besides they need the innenr walls for bad people as well.


I wonder if bars that were sharpened at the front would work against herds. As they came forwards the lead deadites would be squeezed between the sharpened bars and cut into pieces, it would basically be a huge meat grinder.
   
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 Alpharius wrote:
No need to spoiler tag TV related talk in this thread...


We're making comparisons between TV characters and possible counterparts in the comics.


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whembly wrote:Damn... Carol!

She stole the show in this episode!

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I love how she's all in the "Stepford Wife" mode now...

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