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 Frazzled wrote:

Regarding internal zombie security, it's important to note that the houses have outside doors that they can lock at night and internal doors that they can lock and/or close. The presence of closed doors should contain zombie problems resulting from death in one's sleep, etc. pretty well. It was FAR worse that Rick's group didn't close their cell doors at night in the prison, and they paid dearly for it.

That doesn't work because if it did, the Zombie plague would never have been an ELE in the first place. As we've seen herds of them can go through fences and push open locked barn doors. Its like a wave thing. Water looks cute unless its a tidal wave crushing by pure force.

So where are the massive herds coming from inside the town? Deep strike? I just don't think there's a substantial risk of one person dying in their sleep, etc. causing a massive problem in that community, given the accommodations and layout.


So I rewatched the most recent episode. I'm guessing the girl (Enid?) has the missing gun. That house is probably where she's escaping to.

And I don't think Deanna is naive at all. She brought Rick's crew in for a reason. Naivety would be thinking that you don't need people like them. I also wouldn't be surprised if she's on to Carol to some degree. Think about it...you have how many interviews with people who are obviously traumatized and scarred by their experiences, and then there's little old Carol, oh gosh oh darn. Carol might be overplaying her hand.

Yeah, you 'd have to wonder why she doesn't worry about naive Susie Homemaker coming in with a group that also has a guy who does his interview in monosyllables while holding a dead opossum, lol.

It just bugs me sometimes how their can still be large groups that are this naive and lacking in Zombie Apocalypse experience. They seem to run into them all the time. The Govenor's people were like that too. Is it is it not that bad out there? How come Rick's group has had so much stuff happen to them? Are they just the unluckiest group on the planet or something?

 Alpharius wrote:

Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
No need to spoiler tag TV related talk in this thread...

We're making comparisons between TV characters and possible counterparts in the comics.

It isn't always about you, you know!

whembly wrote:Damn... Carol!

She stole the show in this episode!

Spoiler:

I love how she's all in the "Stepford Wife" mode now...

m'bad.

that also has a guy who does his interview in monosyllables while holding a dead opossum, lol.

Wait you don't do your job interviews like that?

Enjoyed it alot - Carol and Daryl was great - no surprise there, as was Aaron

Riks crew was done well - Like Sashas story - makes sense

Didn'tt waste too much time on "jinx" Noah or the Priest - least they can be sacrifced when the plot needs another death - soon as possible in my view.

 gorgon wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

Regarding internal zombie security, it's important to note that the houses have outside doors that they can lock at night and internal doors that they can lock and/or close. The presence of closed doors should contain zombie problems resulting from death in one's sleep, etc. pretty well. It was FAR worse that Rick's group didn't close their cell doors at night in the prison, and they paid dearly for it.

That doesn't work because if it did, the Zombie plague would never have been an ELE in the first place. As we've seen herds of them can go through fences and push open locked barn doors. Its like a wave thing. Water looks cute unless its a tidal wave crushing by pure force.

So where are the massive herds coming from inside the town? Deep strike? I just don't think there's a substantial risk of one person dying in their sleep, etc. causing a massive problem in that community, given the accommodations and layout.


So I rewatched the most recent episode. I'm guessing the girl (Enid?) has the missing gun. That house is probably where she's escaping to.

And I don't think Deanna is naive at all. She brought Rick's crew in for a reason. Naivety would be thinking that you don't need people like them. I also wouldn't be surprised if she's on to Carol to some degree. Think about it...you have how many interviews with people who are obviously traumatized and scarred by their experiences, and then there's little old Carol, oh gosh oh darn. Carol might be overplaying her hand.

Regarding the escape artist, you're probably right that she has the gun. I'm still curious what she's up to. Of course if she was hiding out in that hose she probably overhears the group when they come out to chit-chat, so that'll be interesting.

I'm wondering where Carol's little play is going to- what's the purpose behind the act, and where will it end? I suppose it's to "infiltrate the enemy", but they were asked to be there. It just seems odd to me.

I think Carol's act is to avoid a govenor situation that Michone, Sasha, and Tyreese previously went through. She wants to make sure her family is safe and getting people to trust and talk around harmless ol' her is an excellent way to find out more about where they are so they can respond without being blindsided.

Also I'd bank of Enid having the gun. She was outside the walls when they showed up (Carl saw her) and regularly leaves the encampment it seems so she saw Rick stash it and being a survivor not disimilar to the group is ensuring she has what she needs if things go south.

Plus maybe she's still helping the people who were 'exiled' - or maybe even someone else?

Like the "W" carving group?

But yeah, either way, she's got the gun - for certain!

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Yeah, you 'd have to wonder why she doesn't worry about naive Susie Homemaker coming in with a group that also has a guy who does his interview in monosyllables while holding a dead opossum, lol.

Right?

Don't forget about Sasha, who gets my vote for the *LAST* person who should be let into a belltower with a sniper rifle at this point. Cripes, she spent that entire last episode making her "Sasha face" and snapping at people.

Glenn and Maggie are all disheveled and desperate, saying how much they need this. Carl's chatting about how he had to kill his mom. Abraham probably spent the whole interview glowering and saying things like "No really...WHERE'S THE DAMN BOOZE!!!" And then....

"Oh hiiiiii! Are there any cookies that need baking?!? Tee-hee!"

Um. Granted, it's a TV show and not the real world. And McBride is hilarious. But in the real world, it would be OBVIOUS that something's up with Carol, whether it's an act or some kind of brain injury.

The guy she talked to in the storeroom seemed like a good dude and a possible romantic interest for her, if she's even capable of that at this point. It'll be interesting to see if something like that would help lift her out of the place she's in.

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
It just bugs me sometimes how their can still be large groups that are this naive and lacking in Zombie Apocalypse experience. They seem to run into them all the time. The Govenor's people were like that too. Is it is it not that bad out there? How come Rick's group has had so much stuff happen to them? Are they just the unluckiest group on the planet or something?

You don't think their luck has been comically bad up to this point? Just the rate at which their vehicles seem to fail at the wrong moments feels OTT. I thought that incident with the dead battery poked some fun at that as much as it was a nod to Dale.

 Alpharius wrote:
Plus maybe she's still helping the people who were 'exiled' - or maybe even someone else?

Like the "W" carving group?

But yeah, either way, she's got the gun - for certain!

Well, the fact that the "W" zombie showed up at that house may not be actually connected, but might be the writers winking and hinting that it's all connected, if that makes sense. It's even possible that (comic spoilers ahead)

Seems Carol is now Rick's Lieutenant. His "right hand man", definitely did not see that coming when she was introduced. She's come a long way. Also, it seems Sasha is taking on some of Andrea's traits and/or storyline. It's weird that no one in the show ever developed into a super-sniper. It was kind of what made "the group" so dangerous compared to other gangs.

Yeah, it looks like comic Andrea is being "split", in a way. Note who TV Jessie resembles more than comic Jessie.

Rick is hanging with Carol because his head is in a similarly dark place. Meanwhile Michonne is firmly in the light. Daryl looks to be headed toward the light too, as his refusal to take the gun indicated. And note that Rick hesitated before taking it. I think there's going to be a battle for Rick's soul coming up.

Following on what I said earlier, I think either Carol changes, or she's going to end up isolated. Again. Paranoia is a very useful mindset outside the walls. But they're inside the walls now. And as Deanna indicated to Sasha, that's real. Ultimately, the Alexandrians are not their enemy.

Ultimately, the Alexandrians are not their enemy.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

 Frazzled wrote:

Ultimately, the Alexandrians are not their enemy.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

Well...at least two of the Alexandria residents really are out to "get them.

 Alpharius wrote:
Plus maybe she's still helping the people who were 'exiled' - or maybe even someone else?

Like the "W" carving group?

But yeah, either way, she's got the gun - for certain!

Was another location of the W

There was also a painted (?) warning about the 'Wolves aren't far" or something like that back in Noah's old neighborhood, right?

 Alpharius wrote:
There was also a painted (?) warning about the 'Wolves aren't far" or something like that back in Noah's old neighborhood, right?

Something to that effect, yes. Heavy indicator there is a large hostile group roaming around.

Prediction

 Alpharius wrote:
Plus maybe she's still helping the people who were 'exiled' - or maybe even someone else?

Like the "W" carving group?

But yeah, either way, she's got the gun - for certain!

Yep, I think she's a "W" insider.

 Byte wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Plus maybe she's still helping the people who were 'exiled' - or maybe even someone else?

Like the "W" carving group?

But yeah, either way, she's got the gun - for certain!

Yep, I think she's a "W" insider.

To obvious a conclusion though. Even money saying she helping one of those that was exiled (like one of the three is her dad or brother)

Yeah, I'm not so sure the girl is helping the Wolves anymore either. If they have the firepower/strength to raid Noah's community, why bother infiltrating? I suppose to get a look inside, but why wait so many months when she can come and go as she pleases?

Something doesn't add up in that line of thinking.

 Byte wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Plus maybe she's still helping the people who were 'exiled' - or maybe even someone else?

Like the "W" carving group?

But yeah, either way, she's got the gun - for certain!

Yep, I think she's a "W" insider.

Or she is just a moody teen in a apocalypse

the previews for next week looked a bit odd?

 Jihadin wrote:

 Byte wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Plus maybe she's still helping the people who were 'exiled' - or maybe even someone else?

Like the "W" carving group?

But yeah, either way, she's got the gun - for certain!

Yep, I think she's a "W" insider.

To obvious a conclusion though. Even money saying she helping one of those that was exiled (like one of the three is her dad or brother)

Agreed.

Yeah, that's why that was my 'first guess' too...

And yeah, the previews did look a little disjointed for next week's episode.

Part of that is on purpose (ZOMG!!1!`~!1! Did Aaron just shoot Daryl?!?) and part of it is...the person doing them is an intern?

It looks like 'everyone has a job' and unfortunately Eugene got the 'go on a run' job.

Thinking Eugene as "Bait" or "Decoy" position later on

Wierd that he and the cowardly priest were not even mentioned in the last episode???

At least not that I recall?

maybe Carol told them a "story" and they ran away

 Mr Morden wrote:
Wierd that he and the cowardly priest were not even mentioned in the last episode???

At least not that I recall?

maybe Carol told them a "story" and they ran away

No other Priest though so he defacto has a job

 Jihadin wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Wierd that he and the cowardly priest were not even mentioned in the last episode???

At least not that I recall?

maybe Carol told them a "story" and they ran away

No other Priest though so he defacto has a job

Only if any of the people are christians. They might all be jews and atheists.

Computron wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Wierd that he and the cowardly priest were not even mentioned in the last episode???

At least not that I recall?

maybe Carol told them a "story" and they ran away

No other Priest though so he defacto has a job

Only if any of the people are christians. They might all be jews and atheists.

At that point of time I think survival is foremost on everyone mind. Like I said on deployments, if I get opted out I do not care whoever is around that's capable on "Giving Last Rites" as long as I get a version of it. I think everyone would respect the what the Individual (Priest: Coward in Walking Dead and not in the REAL WORLD) represent. He can provide a Spiritual Need for anybody. I highly doubt the "Priest: Coward in the Walking Dead and not in the REAL WORLD" is going to go Hell Bent Converting the masses to Christian Faith.

As a comic reader, I honestly have no idea what they're gonna do with Gabriel. He sorta just drops off the radar completely when they reach Alexandria, other than briefly whining about what bad people Rick's group are and the nasty things they've done. Nobody really listens.

Either this next episode will feature said whinging, or they're going to introduce some new and original material for Gabriel.

 Jihadin wrote:

At that point of time I think survival is foremost on everyone mind. ....He can provide a Spiritual Need for anybody.

These people have all spent the last few years without a priest, not the group or the community - why would they suddenly need one now? Especially one who didn't try to save any of his congregation.
Genuinely religious/spiritual people don't need warlocks, shamans etc for guidance, they get it from their community of their sense in the divine.
Religious leaders are good for bringing communities who share beliefs together, the people in the show are not that kind of community.



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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
As a comic reader, I honestly have no idea what they're gonna do with Gabriel. He sorta just drops off the radar completely when they reach Alexandria, other than briefly whining about what bad people Rick's group are and the nasty things they've done. Nobody really listens.

Either this next episode will feature said whinging, or they're going to introduce some new and original material for Gabriel.

I suspect he collected a following of those who refuse to face reality and use his sermons as a way to ignore what has happened to the world. I can see him and his crazies causing problems at some point, assuming he's still alive.