Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)

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**Jihadin**

Glen has a mean right fist. Third time he swings it someone jaw going to get shattered

**Mr Morden**

Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:
Sinful Hero wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:
Noah's death -- while one of the most gruesome we've seen

This sounds great - looking forward to it.

It was pretty rough. More than one person actually gets munched to death in this episode.

Watching it tonight - I really disliked Noah the "jinx" and so happy to se him go - sounds like he manages to get more people killed in the process - sounds like him..............

Beth was categorically not Noah's fault. Beth's death was Beth's fault.

He was to blame for Tyreese's death, but then again so was the rest of the group. They arrived at Noah's home to find it burnt down and the residents massacred. They should have forseen a distraught Noah running off looking for his family and doing something stupid. Tyreese's death was a result of collective incompetence.

He stole Carol and Daryls guns and then nearly gets Carol killed when she is run over
Then its him who is the flashpoint and for some bizare reason Beth commits sucicde over him after already sacrifcing herself so he can run away the first time - useless waste of flesh that he is
Then he gets Tyresse killed

Jinx

Now apparently he finally gets killed - good riddence - as I said looking forward to it tonight - now if they can do the same to Fat Useless Sam and the rest of the wasters at the Wall of Dullness in GOT I will be really happy

**KiloFiX**

I think Noah's death and Tara's incapacitation might do something to Glen.

Also, so you CAN get killed by revolving doors even without a cape...

**KamikazeCanuck**

Finally watched it and it was a good episode but throughout it and afterwards my main thought was about the gruesome violence. Obviously this is a very violent show but it was just taken to a whole new level this episode. I could actually feel the producers just proudly reveling in the horror they were creating. It's like they were just showing off. I don't like it.

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yakface wrote:

What part of 'comics talk only in spoiler tags' is difficult to understand?

If you are talking about how a character is different in the comics, that needs to go into spoilers.

If you are talking about characters or events in the comics that don't exist in the TV show (yet), that needs to go into spoiler tags, even if your'e just speculating that those characters/locations might appear on the show someday.

I just don't understand why that is so hard to keep in mind?

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As for this episode, I found the deaths to be above and beyond gruesome than they've ever done before, and the camera lingered on those deaths for an incredibly long amount of time.

I don't feel like any viewers feel getting killed and eaten by a zombie isn't a terrible fate, so the level of gore and the duration of shots feels more like gleeful pride at showing horrible pain and death, something that really puts me off about horror movies.

I have to say, I didn't care for it. It seemed nedlessly horrible and I'm still constantly surprised at what they're able to put on basic cable TV, when nudity and sex are still so taboo there.

Yes! 100% agree.

**Sillykid**

I've been on the fence about this series for a long time. Is it really worth watching? Anyone who's seen this before, what do you think makes it worth watching?

**Sinful Hero**

Sillykid wrote:
I've been on the fence about this series for a long time. Is it really worth watching? Anyone who's seen this before, what do you think makes it worth watching?

Interesting characters in an interesting situation. Goes a little over the top sometimes, but is usually ground in reality(as close as zombies can get anyway). Based on an even better comic series.

**Sillykid**

Thanks! What season are they currently on?

**Computron**

Season 5

You can check out the comic on youtube by looking for walking dead issue 1. I caught up on the story the other day and it's now up to issue 138.

The two are quite close but there are some big differences.

**Sillykid**

Thanks, I'll check out both the comics and the t.v. series

**Alpharius**

I'll bet you end up liking the TV Series more than the Comic.

**pretre**

Alpharius wrote:
I'll bet you end up liking the TV Series more than the Comic.

Yeah, although I like the comic a lot, I think I'm starting to enjoy the show more.

**KamikazeCanuck**

I still prefer the comic.

**Wyrmalla**

I prefer the Tv series. It fleshes out characters more and adds more depth to the world through adding quite a bit of extra story. The Governor for instance doesn't have nearly as many scenes in the comics, as is he characterized differently (in the comics his bad side comes out immediately, the tv series starts him as not a nice guy, but its the loss of his "daughter" which sends him over the edge). Similarly the Claimers in the comic are just some random guys with no back story, whereas the tv series has them feature in a number of episodes. So yes, generally I prefer the show as there's so much more world building going on. Admittedly a lot of what could be considered filler if we're following the pace of the comic, but I'm perfectly fine with the extra content, and otherwise they would have outpaced the comic already.

Eugh, though I'll say the latest collected comic volume couldn't come here any faster. :(

**Alpharius**

KamikazeCanuck wrote:
I still prefer the comic.

This is where I could go all gorgon on you and be like "No, etc. etc. etc." but...

...I can see that.

The comic and the TV show do share some issues (ha!) in dragging certain arcs out waaaay too long.

And the comic tends to really, really hit you over the head with the whole "the human survivors are the real monsters" and "man's inhumanity to man" themes.

Still, they're both certainly still enjoyable!

**KamikazeCanuck**

Basically the TV series has it's version of each storyline. Sometimes it's better and sometimes it's worse but I'll admit on average they are better post-Govenor (whereas before I usually found them worse).

Anyway, if I'm not mistaken Eugene said in this episode they are actually in DC right now didn't he? Have they actually scaled the Great Wall of Georgia?

**pretre**

They are within sight of the capital.

**Shadow Captain Edithae**

Wyrmalla wrote:
I prefer the Tv series. It fleshes out characters more and adds more depth to the world through adding quite a bit of extra story. The Governor for instance doesn't have nearly as many scenes in the comics, as is he characterized differently (in the comics his bad side comes out immediately, the tv series starts him as not a nice guy, but its the loss of his "daughter" which sends him over the edge). Similarly the Claimers in the comic are just some random guys with no back story, whereas the tv series has them feature in a number of episodes. So yes, generally I prefer the show as there's so much more world building going on. Admittedly a lot of what could be considered filler if we're following the pace of the comic, but I'm perfectly fine with the extra content, and otherwise they would have outpaced the comic already.

Eugh, though I'll say the latest collected comic volume couldn't come here any faster. :(

On the contrary, the comic version of the Govrernor is fleshed out a lot more, even more so than the tv show, in the Woodbury novels.
In the comics Penny wasn't his daughter. The Governor was actually the younger of two brothers, Penny's uncle. The tv show simplified things a lot by merging the two brothers.

Comic and novel spoilers start here, but it's ancient history for the comics and books and won't spoil future tv episodes.

Spoiler:

**Wyrmalla**

Naebody mentioned the novels.

The comic book governor's just some sadist, it was the novels that gave him a history. Given that I doubt many have read the novels unless they went on the wiki he'd just be some bastard the group meet who decides to do horrible things to them at the drop of a hat (at least the tv version had some buildup with Andrea. The comic one meets the gang then immediately decides to kill them to send a message ...or something).

**Frazzled**

Novels?

**Wyrmalla**

http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Novel

Mostly to do with Woodbury, but the stories cross over with the main group at times (for instance it was the Governor's group which warned not to enter the gated community at the start of the comics). Woodbury in the novels isn't burned to the ground, rather the survivors repopulate it after the Fall of the Governor for one. The family the Governor meets after the first attack on the prison that take him in when he's a vagrant are from the novels, and were gone well before the comics timeline.

**KiloFiX**

There are some things in the comic that they can do (without time and rating constraints) that they can't do with tv. But there are also some things that you just have to see on tv like zombies on fire or that scene with the overhead view of the car ploughing through zombies at night, etc.

**gorgon**

Obviously, the comic and the show are different mediums, so the end result is different. I enjoy both and like them just the way they are.

**Sinful Hero**

Alpharius wrote:
KamikazeCanuck wrote:
I still prefer the comic.

This is where I could go all gorgon on you and be like "No, etc. etc. etc." but...

...I can see that.

The comic and the TV show do share some issues (ha!) in dragging certain arcs out waaaay too long.

And the comic tends to really, really hit you over the head with the whole "the human survivors are the real monsters" and "man's inhumanity to man" themes.

Still, they're both certainly still enjoyable!

Different strokes for different folks!

I'm a comic>TV show man myself.

**Shadow Captain Edithae**

I'm with Gorgon. I like both. The tv show is what got me into the comics.

**Jihadin**

I think this coming Sunday episode Rick and Dianna (politician) is going to have a "Coming to Jesus" talk.
Think we're going to see the "Alex" people want the perks of a normal life with little risk
Rick group going to disabuse them of that idea

**Sinful Hero**

Jihadin wrote:
I think this coming Sunday episode Rick and Dianna (politician) is going to have a "Coming to Jesus" talk.
Think we're going to see the "Alex" people want the perks of a normal life with little risk
Rick group going to disabuse them of that idea

Nah, they'll save that for the finale. Next episode is going to be Rick's group going all macho and scaring the Alexandrians. Thing happens and they have to rely on them because they are woefully underprepared.

**Jihadin**

Think the Finale would be the Wolves showing up

**Compel**

I am a bit worried that Aiden's death, combined with Gabriel's horseraddish, is going to result yet another, "insiders VS outsiders" Falling Skies level wangst fest, that we've already seen a million times before in a million different tv shows and films (Including Walking Dead, twice).

**Sinful Hero**

Y'know I just realized Deanna thanked Glenn for punching her son. I wonder what she'll do when he gets accused of killing him(by the other dude)?

**Mr Morden**

Novels were good.

Previews looked like Sasha going nuts int he clock tower with a rifle?