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You mean like the whole dragged out 'Sophia Incident'?

Yeah...no.

Maybe Glenn lives and becomes a Wolf/Whisperer?

 Frazzled wrote:
Maybe Glenn lives and becomes a Wolf/Whisperer?

Is Maggie still alive?

Yes.

So...that ain't happenin'!

To get back to her.

As much as I love Glenn and really hate to see him go, I will actually be a little bitter if he turns out to somehow not be dead.

The reason I say that is because I feel like they went out of their way to have Glenn make poor decisions that he doesn't typically seem to make to ensure that particular scenario occurred. So if they want me to suspend disbelief that Glenn would suddenly break his normal character traits and do all those things, then the perceived outcome (his death) has to be a result of that. If it turns out he isn't actually dead, then his BS behavior this episode will really bother me.

Because, what I have seen of Glenn's character over the years is that he is able to assess even hopeless situations and find ways to get out of them. And certainly while last nights predicament was tough, it wasn't anything really worse than other stuff he's been through. And the fact that he ran *past* a stairwell in that alleyway that ran up to the second story, where they could have easily clambered up onto the roof was bad enough...but then he didn't get INTO the dumpster? Nor did he even attempt to climb up the super tall fence and use that to climb up onto the roof?

It was just nonsesne that wasn't typical of his character. So you have to assume the meaning of the whole debacle was to show that Glenn choosing to constantly try to redeem Nicholas is what was ultimately his demise. And if that's the story they want to go with, then that's fine, but they better not suddenly turn that around and somehow miraculously have him survive that.

And if they DO magically make him survive, then the only reason that whole situation makes sense to write is to give a way to 'teach' Glenn that he can't save everybody...to turn him into another (rightfully) jaded person like Rick. But that would suck too, because what made Glenn interesting is because despite his weariness and experience, he still managed to hold onto most of his ideals.


And funny fact...in the Talking Dead after the episode the guy who plays 'Nicholas' did a taped interview and in it, he was sitting on the damn stairwell that they both ran right past to get trapped in the alleyway. Argh!!!

 Alpharius wrote:
You mean like the whole dragged out 'Sophia Incident'?

Yeah...no.

Yes like that, but not dragged on for an entire half season til everyone stops caring. But letting people squirm through 1 episode not knowing, then the reveal on the next episode, should be a much more rational length of time.

Ok, just watched all 3 episodes today. Holy crap a lot of action. A lot of good stuff but of course very upset about Glenn's death. He is one of my favorite characters. Surprised to see people theorizing he is still alive somehow. That did not occur to me for a second. Like there is literally no way out of that one.

I'm just not really that happy with how it went down for the reasons yakface highlights. He just does a bunch of stupid out of character things that lead to his death. Also, I know the main theme of this show seems to be "being a good person and trying to help people is wrong and will get you killed" but can they give it a break with that already? I think that relentless nihilism is why I actually don't look forward to watching the show even though I'm usually glad I did afterwords because it is an entertaining series.

Having now watched 'The Talking Dead' I'm kind of convinced he isn't actually dead.

Wait so they didn't Negan Glenn? 0.o

Guess they'll have to do that to another character instead. Though it'd lose some of the impact that scene had.

Bit cheap for him to go any other way. :(

In the comics Nagin kills Glenn horribly and we know Nagin is going to make an appearance in the Midseason finale. Also my wife investigates this stuff like she is obsessed, she says Glenn has been seen on set post this episode. Maggie is also pregnant.

Further, Rick loses his hand, I think it will be due to infection rather than zombie plague. Carl loses an eye when the remaining Wolves assault Alexandria again, he has already been seen on set with an eye patch. The 5 Wolves rick killed at the Winnibago apparently were the five that Morgan let go during the attack.

Umm...isn't this where comic spoilers are supposed to be used?

I never thought Glenn's fate in the show would be the same as in the comic. By now we should all know that the two follow the same general path, but sometimes with different details. Besides, they've teased us a couple of times in the show already...which suggests to me that they actually won't go down that path with Glenn.

And to echo Alpharius, there seems to be little doubt that Glenn survived that alley. Whether he survives long-term is another story, of course.

 gorgon wrote:
Umm...isn't this where comic spoilers are supposed to be used?

Yes, it is.

We've apparently already seen



All of this could be due to the



I'm also not convinced that Rick will be losing a hand.

On the Talking Dead didn't they just get a message saying "he will be seen in some form"? also they will have a mystery main cast member on next show - so likely Glenn?

So likely flashback or hallucinations etc as has been done with other characters?

Lets see who else Morgan can get killed (*) - he is as much a jinx as Noah..............

(*) noticed he never bothered telling anyone about the Wolves cos.........

 Mr Morden wrote:
On the Talking Dead didn't they just get a message saying "he will be seen in some form"? also they will have a mystery main cast member on next show - so likely Glenn?

You're leaving out a lot of the rest of that quote.

Basically they were trying to not commit to anything or admit anything.

So I'll say this: In some way, we will see Glenn, some version of Glenn, or parts of Glenn again, either in flashback, or in the current story, to help complete the story.

Which could mean basically anything, as the showrunner intended.


Here's a casting call for a part on TWD...

30s to mid 40s. A physically imposing, charismatic, brutal, smart, ferocious, frightening, hilarious, inappropriate, oddly friendly, fun loving sociopath that is both a leader of men and a killer of men. He has both a practical and emotional intelligence, he’s a brilliant strategist, he’s pure, dangerous, murderous, often gleeful id, that still has both discipline and a code. And he has a temper that can vaporize people. He’s truly one of the strongest personalities ever…

Note that this would be for the season finale.

 Alpharius wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
On the Talking Dead didn't they just get a message saying "he will be seen in some form"? also they will have a mystery main cast member on next show - so likely Glenn?

You're leaving out a lot of the rest of that quote.

Basically they were trying to not commit to anything or admit anything.

Sorry can't recall the whole thing? Didn't it also mention "some part of him"? ah just seen the full quote above - yeah its plenty vague.

Maggie being pregnant would be awful. We don't need another zombie chow rugrat.

This entire thread is nothing but spoilers so I do not believe a tag is needed since it is in the thread title. If you haven't seen the latest episode, don't read this thread until you do.

Carl

Unless of course they're going way off script again.

Rick possibly losing a hand to infection would be very interesting. If true, then it's Odd that they've decided to make a you turn and do it anyway after 6 seasons, after giving it to Merle instead to avoid the complications of the lead character being limited and crippled in such a drastic way.

I highly doubt Rick loses a hand. After all he's been through, losing a hand because of a gash would be...lame.

 Frazzled wrote:
I highly doubt Rick loses a hand. After all he's been through, losing a hand because of a gash would be...lame.

Kinda like surviving 5 seasons and evolving into a bad-ass, only to be ripped to shreds because an ingrate who's life you spared opted out and dragged you down into a herd?

That kind of lame?

Yes. If he's dead...

I don't think Glenn is dead. Just because we didn't see him die, like every other character that has died on this show thus far has been killed right there on screen for all to see. Even Merle way back in the first season, they're not dead till you see em die. Why would they hide it now? It's just to build suspense for the next episode or 2 when they finally explain what happened to him. So I'm gonna assume a narrow escape till I see his guts ripped out in all their glory.

 Necros wrote:
I don't think Glenn is dead. Just because we didn't see him die, like every other character that has died on this show thus far has been killed right there on screen for all to see. Even Merle way back in the first season, they're not dead till you see em die. Why would they hide it now? It's just to build suspense for the next episode or 2 when they finally explain what happened to him. So I'm gonna assume a narrow escape till I see his guts ripped out in all their glory.

Mind you, Merle was killed off screen. The camera was on the Governor, he pulls his gun. BLAM! And the next time we see Merle, he was a walker.

That could be the case here.

Col. Dash wrote:
This entire thread is nothing but spoilers so I do not believe a tag is needed since it is in the thread title. If you haven't seen the latest episode, don't read this thread until you do.

COMIC spoilers go in spoiler tags - that's the issue we're talking about there.

Totally agree on the TV show - but again - comic talk goes in spoiler tags.

Exactly.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 Necros wrote:
I don't think Glenn is dead. Just because we didn't see him die, like every other character that has died on this show thus far has been killed right there on screen for all to see. Even Merle way back in the first season, they're not dead till you see em die. Why would they hide it now? It's just to build suspense for the next episode or 2 when they finally explain what happened to him. So I'm gonna assume a narrow escape till I see his guts ripped out in all their glory.

Mind you, Merle was killed off screen. The camera was on the Governor, he pulls his gun. BLAM! And the next time we see Merle, he was a walker.

That could be the case here.

We've never lost a main character to zombies off screen. I'd be shocked if they took an season 1-er and did it. Not saying he's going to live past the next episode but it feels like he's definitely not dead. I think the longer episode next week is half Morgan flashback and half finding out what happened to Rick and Glenn. Also maybe I'm hopeful but I'm hoping we see a slightly more realistic Glenn. It's time for him to finally grow up and realize not everyone can be saved. Idealism is good but it has it's place. Additionally that would add weight to the Glenn stand-in's death as it's a stark reminder of what not adapting to the world would mean for someone just like Glenn (though more out of shape).

I guess it all comes down to whether or not Glenn had his plot armor on when he fell into the pit. Remember when the guys were on their knees, tied up at Terminus? Ya, they were wearing some serious plot armor then, weren't they?

 Breotan wrote:
I guess it all comes down to whether or not Glenn had his plot armor on when he fell into the pit. Remember when the guys were on their knees, tied up at Terminus? Ya, they were wearing some serious plot armor then, weren't they?

Freaking Tactical Dreadnought plot armor baby. Of course Glenn has it, lose him and you might lose some of your audience.

It's almost like this is the first TV show you two have watched!