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I don't think your 'logic' on who will, or will not, get



is necessarily sound or correct.

But we won't have to wait long to find out.

And, as always, I welcome changes from the comics - they're usually quite good, and almost always appreciated!

Well,

Well, besides Lucille, theres another um, event, that people are forgetting.

It occurs much later in the story, but if people are predicting a double offing, they could bring it forward and maybe even use a different character.

Of course with the preview bit showing what looks like the Saviours home base we don't just have Bat action but also potentially



I do think a lot of the stuff from the very extensive comic story on Negan etc is going to get cut - they don't have time or need to do most of it - even if next season is the whole Saviours versus Rictatorship battle. The show often moves too slow as it is............

Both in universe and out of it - killing Morgan is simply not (as expressed above) a "gut punch" - a few people may be sad to see him go (not me) but compared to Glen, Maggie, Carol, etc he is just a character in the vague background like the various named Alexandrians.

Nice to see Aeron back and actually doing something...............

I dunno that the show is moving too slowly. Even with only 16 eps a season, they're gaining ground on the books (which tends to happen with adaptations).

I could see the "AOW" storyline being the focus next season and wrapping up by the season ender. Then we're looking at A New Beginning at the start of season 8.

If they cut All Out War short, then they risk overtaking the comics even sooner, just like Game of Thrones did.

I expect All Out War to take up the entirety of Season 7.

Considering how they spun the major herd attack into half a season and it was all good (even the Morgan episode for me) I can see the "war" taking all next season. They tend to like doing a not horrible cliff hanger season ender once in a while and next season would be about time for another one.

I think 'comics readers' and/or "Smart Fans" might not 'value' Morgan highly, but I think the general TWD TV audience would be...sufficiently shocked if Morgan gets killed.

Especially given his story, journey and current activities and proclivities.

I would assume that All-Out War taking up all of season 7 is a given. Whether or not it would continue into season 8 is the real question. I seem to recall

Also if they plan on doing anything between AOW and

 Alpharius wrote:
I think 'comics readers' and/or "Smart Fans" might not 'value' Morgan highly, but I think the general TWD TV audience would be...sufficiently shocked if Morgan gets killed.

Especially given his story, journey and current activities and proclivities.

Really?

Not convinced - my friend has never read the comics of the books and she can't stand him - although Abraham has now annoyed her and she dislikes the Priest more. Another friend has never read them and he dislikes Morgan and thought a whole episode wasted on him was annoying.

I generally intrigued as to what there is about his character to like?

Rick

Spoiler:

pretending to meet Negan's demands for a short while as he planned his eventual attack?

I imagine that will be the first half of Season 7. The second half

Also if they plan on doing anything between AOW and

Spoiler:

The Whisperers.

I imagine they'll devote the first half of Season 8 to that.



And then you know who will be introduced in the mid way point of season 8, culminating with


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 Mr Morden wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I think 'comics readers' and/or "Smart Fans" might not 'value' Morgan highly, but I think the general TWD TV audience would be...sufficiently shocked if Morgan gets killed.

Especially given his story, journey and current activities and proclivities.

Really?

Not convinced - my friend has never read the comics of the books and she can't stand him - although Abraham has now annoyed her and she dislikes the Priest more. Another friend has never read them and he dislikes Morgan and thought a whole episode wasted on him was annoying.

I generally intrigued as to what there is about his character to like?

Funny - I'm actually starting to like Gabriel, now that he's taking up arms and becoming more proactive in helping to defend his community. That moment when he executed the Savior was pretty cool.

Eyerytime Gabrial comes on screen she says "please kill him"

 Mr Morden wrote:
Eyerytime Gabrial comes on screen she says "please kill him"

Is she forgetting the magic word?

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Eyerytime Gabrial comes on screen she says "please kill him"

Is she forgetting the magic word?

Now?

I'm warming up to Gabriel. I've always been a fan of "warrior priests" if they are done well and his quoting scripture and not hesitating to finish off the Savior pushed him back closer to me accepting him now. Man I loathed him though clean thru till this episode. Which makes sense. He's had 2 months to grow into how he was feeling toward the end of the episode before the break.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Eyerytime Gabrial comes on screen she says "please kill him"

Is she forgetting the magic word?

Now?

Amen.

Yeah, I think this'll be a turning point for Gabriel, and he's about to become badass. I actually started the show hating Carol, now she's one of my favorites!

I'm hoping Lucielle's actions don't take the same life that they do in the comics.

Not sure on Abraham; I actually haven't really cared for him at all in the entirety of his actions, so watching him take a bat to the face wouldn't upset me. I've straight up "nothing'd" him from jump. He's kinda badass, but I just wasn't a fan.

At this point I think Carol's in a lot of danger, given where they've gone with her character in the last few episodes.

Morgan certainly looks to be getting setup as well.

The Glenn Foreshadowing almost seems to be too much now - especially after the 'Negan's Greatest Hits' photo exhibit.

I suppose they've actually done a good job in teasing a lot of potential deaths here - especially for comic fans.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Yeah, I think this'll be a turning point for Gabriel, and he's about to become badass. I actually started the show hating Carol, now she's one of my favorites!

I'm hoping Lucielle's actions don't take the same life that they do in the comics.

Not sure on Abraham; I actually haven't really cared for him at all in the entirety of his actions, so watching him take a bat to the face wouldn't upset me. I've straight up "nothing'd" him from jump. He's kinda badass, but I just wasn't a fan.

Abraham has had an odd couple of episodes - as I said my friend really did not like his words dumping his current lover............she will likely be doing the whole - "please kill him as well"

Love Carol - interesting they gave her a possible love interest........I am sure there will be some betting place with odds on all the cast

Hey maybe they bat them all and its the Negan show - you know, Negan the redheaded woman.............

Now you just be trollin'!

Or are you wishlisting?

What I dont get is that the W gang (wolves?) seem to have just dropped off the face of the earth.

Considering that they attacked alexandria, rick and crew seem to have moved on to a new enemy pretty quickly.

Not to mention its a bit odd to see them strike out with all their combat heavies when the W's have not yet been dealt with or even properly investigated

I actually can totally see them casting neegan as a girl or introducing that red head in some way new.

I dont think its the best choice, but I can see it happening.

 easysauce wrote:
What I dont get is that the W gang (wolves?) seem to have just dropped off the face of the earth.

Considering that they attacked alexandria, rick and crew seem to have moved on to a new enemy pretty quickly.

Because they're all dead. Their comic book counterparts numbered only about 8 people. They were a small, short term threat. The show inflated their numbers for dramatic effect and for extra mileage.

Not to mention its a bit odd to see them strike out with all their combat heavies when the W's have not yet been dealt with or even properly investigated

They HAVE been dealt with. You're overlooking the 2 month time jump between No way Out and The Next World. In those 2 months they had plenty of time to patrol and scout the area and double check that the threat was over.

I actually can totally see them casting Negan as a girl or introducing that red head in some way new.

I dont think its the best choice, but I can see it happening.

Its an utterly stupid idea thats just going to piss off comic fans, myself included. Negan is a notorious and well established figure in the comics. Changing his gender would be like changing Rick's gender, or The Governor. Change that, and its a completely new character. Switching genders worked for Deanna and her husband, because the comic book spouse (the wife) was a very trivial and uninteresting throw-away character, whereas the show made both of them interesting and crucial to the plot.

I'd much rather she be a totally original and badass character invented for the show like Daryl was. Whats wrong with that? Just don't feth with Negan.


Besides, Jeffrey Dean Morgan has already been cast as Negan, the redhead has apparently been named as "Polly", and she doesn't swear anywhere near enough to be Negan's counterpart.

I don't think a gender swap would be detrimental to Negan- it was the character's actions and personality that defined him, not his gender.

Either way, as you mentioned that role has already been cast.

What I'm more curious about is how the Wolves apparently operated in Negan's territory without consequence. Especially such a large group.

 Sinful Hero wrote:
I don't think a gender swap would be detrimental to Negan- it was the character's actions and personality that defined him, not his gender.

Either way, as you mentioned that role has already been cast.

What I'm more curious about is how the Wolves apparently operated in Negan's territory without consequence. Especially such a large group.

They were very recent arrivals. They encountered Morgan, Daryl and Aaron far from Alexandria and followed them to it.

If they'd taken Alexandria and settled there, or settled some other place, the Saviours would have discovered them sooner or later. And probably recruited them too. or...the least crazy ones maybe.

Alexandria isn't yet 'Negan's Territory'!

We know this because, well, Negan and the Saviors hadn't shown up there yet!

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

They HAVE been dealt with. You're overlooking the 2 month time jump between No way Out and The Next World. In those 2 months they had plenty of time to patrol and scout the area and double check that the threat was over.

Well I guess we can assume they are dealt with, but there wasnt really anything on screen about them after their attack. Nothing really leads me on to assume they were dealt with, although thats not an unreasonable assumption.



Lots still yet to happen, we still have not met

Going to be some great episodes coming up for sure!

Well I guess we can assume they are dealt with, but there wasnt really anything on screen about them after their attack. Nothing really leads me on to assume they were dealt with, although thats not an unreasonable assumption.

Besides Rick going to town with an AK47 on their leader and the last few survivors? :d

I was under the impression that the walkers tied up to the truck and tractor from "A New World" had something to do with the Wolves, seeing as how the Saviors probably have little need for walkers.

Assuming it is their handiwork(although they're absent the "W"), this is roughly somewhere between where Jesus is scouting and Alexandria. Would not at least be fairly close to their territory?

Of course, it could be a Wolves came from the east, Saviors from the west deal, with Alexandria in the middle.

MASSIVE SPOILER FOR NEXT SEASON

At least in the comics, after some character development on the part of the Saviors and the extent of their competence, its revealed that they used Zombies, at least in one major instance.



Not a really massive spoiler hopefully.