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Great game Rythem...can't believe we tied!

Dark eldar elite wrote:Great game Rythem...can't believe we tied!

Oh yeah, came right down to the wire there, getting my warlord on the 6th turn to tie it up, love it when it's that close.

kungfujew wrote:I would feel great about it. Another chaos/Eldar game?

All my models have arrived so, I'll let you pick the points.

I can do upwards of way too many.


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Or if you want to add allies I can do it too, just to give you a few more points. I can do an ungodsly amount of chaos now. I'll probably wait until I'm done my chaos conversions before I switch to IG as my guard now have 17 Russes, 2 super heavy tanks, 2 knights and somewhere around 250+ infantry. That'll be a Sat or sat/sun game.


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Although, you'll be getting off easy in any case. My 3 defilers definitely won't arrive by then.

I can probably do 6k with only very minor proxies, any more than that and i fear we won't be able to finish in the 6 hours we usually get on a sunday.

If we ever plan a sat/sun game i could probably combine my BA and eldar to around 15-16k though I have no idea how I'd be able to effectively play that many models. At least I have a pretty good idea on how to kill those knights after playing against DEE's 3 imp knights for the past couple weeks.

Cool. I'll throw together 6000 points of chaos


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No allies, no nonsense, just chainsword wielding death

MaxZ wrote:
Meeplemart, this saturday/sunday anyone? I am up for 1500!

Would love to have a game. I can only field 1000 points at this time though. Saturday at noon?

Anyone up for a horri-bad 7th ed game on Sunday? We can learn the newer rules together.

I'm picking my book up on Saturday and plan on going through it that night.

optimusprime14 wrote:
Anyone up for a horri-bad 7th ed game on Sunday? We can learn the newer rules together.

I'm picking my book up on Saturday and plan on going through it that night.

I can do a game... earlier is best for me... Legends or my basement (I have plenty of terrain now)... up to you... let me know.

Lets do it up DEE, earlier is good, I'll text ya and we'll figure out the details

 alexc wrote:

MaxZ wrote:
Meeplemart, this saturday/sunday anyone? I am up for 1500!

Would love to have a game. I can only field 1000 points at this time though. Saturday at noon?

Sounds good, let me double check my schedule. 6th edition or 7th? Idont have the new rules but if you have them I'd be down to play them.

MaxZ wrote:

 alexc wrote:

MaxZ wrote:
Meeplemart, this saturday/sunday anyone? I am up for 1500!

Would love to have a game. I can only field 1000 points at this time though. Saturday at noon?

Sounds good, let me double check my schedule. 6th edition or 7th? Idont have the new rules but if you have them I'd be down to play them.

I do not have them yet. The only thing that I really like about what I've heard of the new rules is the new vehicle damage table. I don't know if that's worth 150$ though.

Let's play 6th

New rule book is half that amount if you pick it up from Legends

Legends is also selling 7th edition on friday after 1pm, which is when i'm heading in to pick it up. Let's see how badly gw has screwed things up this time...

This is from Meeplemart's facebook page... ouch :

"Games Workshop and Meeplemart

Some of you may have noticed that Meeplemart has not received (or ordered) any new releases or restocks since Games Workshop launched their new website. This is due to their new retailer terms which were simultaneously introduced; capping what items and the amount of product Meeplemart is allowed to order. (This is not a MINIMUM requirement issue, this is a MAXIMUM allowed issue.)

In protest to these new limitations Meeplemart has NOT ordered in ANY WH40K 7th edition rule books, nor will we allow any legitimate 7th Edition rule books into the game space, for this (release) weekend. If GW sees no reason to support 3rd party retail, than likewise we see no reason to support their game system.

In addition, we are also VERY seriously considering completely cutting ties with the company and banning all GW gaming and products from Meeplemart.

I am finding it incredibly difficult to continue giving money to a company whose business practices I do not support.

So, until a decision is made, we are at an impasse..."

optimusprime14 wrote:
Lets do it up DEE, earlier is good, I'll text ya and we'll figure out the details

Check your pm... I have sent my cell number...not sure if you have an old one or not.

 alexc wrote:

MaxZ wrote:

 alexc wrote:

MaxZ wrote:
Meeplemart, this saturday/sunday anyone? I am up for 1500!

Would love to have a game. I can only field 1000 points at this time though. Saturday at noon?

Sounds good, let me double check my schedule. 6th edition or 7th? Idont have the new rules but if you have them I'd be down to play them.

I do not have them yet. The only thing that I really like about what I've heard of the new rules is the new vehicle damage table. I don't know if that's worth 150$ though.

Let's play 6th

Yeah. I like the sound of the new rule set though. For now I will stay in sixth edition, until the cheaper book starts showing up on eBay. I can confirm for 12 at meeplemart. See ya there!


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 alexc wrote:
This is from Meeplemart's facebook page... ouch :

"Games Workshop and Meeplemart

Some of you may have noticed that Meeplemart has not received (or ordered) any new releases or restocks since Games Workshop launched their new website. This is due to their new retailer terms which were simultaneously introduced; capping what items and the amount of product Meeplemart is allowed to order. (This is not a MINIMUM requirement issue, this is a MAXIMUM allowed issue.)

In protest to these new limitations Meeplemart has NOT ordered in ANY WH40K 7th edition rule books, nor will we allow any legitimate 7th Edition rule books into the game space, for this (release) weekend. If GW sees no reason to support 3rd party retail, than likewise we see no reason to support their game system.

In addition, we are also VERY seriously considering completely cutting ties with the company and banning all GW gaming and products from Meeplemart.

I am finding it incredibly difficult to continue giving money to a company whose business practices I do not support.

So, until a decision is made, we are at an impasse..."

Honestly, I hope this happens. If I could switch 100% to drop zone commander or flames of war, and enough people played, I would.

 alexc wrote:
This is from Meeplemart's facebook page... ouch :

"Games Workshop and Meeplemart

Some of you may have noticed that Meeplemart has not received (or ordered) any new releases or restocks since Games Workshop launched their new website. This is due to their new retailer terms which were simultaneously introduced; capping what items and the amount of product Meeplemart is allowed to order. (This is not a MINIMUM requirement issue, this is a MAXIMUM allowed issue.)

In protest to these new limitations Meeplemart has NOT ordered in ANY WH40K 7th edition rule books, nor will we allow any legitimate 7th Edition rule books into the game space, for this (release) weekend. If GW sees no reason to support 3rd party retail, than likewise we see no reason to support their game system.

In addition, we are also VERY seriously considering completely cutting ties with the company and banning all GW gaming and products from Meeplemart.

I am finding it incredibly difficult to continue giving money to a company whose business practices I do not support.

So, until a decision is made, we are at an impasse..."

I'm going to have to agree with their stance. Honestly GWs PR has been a train wreck. My local old hobby store "Crossed Swords" which had been in the community for well over 30 years (probably more than that) closed up last year with the announcement of their trade policy since from what I understand the store was barely breaking even. Also, Miniwargaming store site (a place I also frequent and purchased a large chunk of my death guard army) closed down in response to GWs online retail policy that same year. Whatever GW is trying to do is not gonna help them in the long run with their sales.

I'm also really upset with the announcement of 7th edition since I just got into 6th edition about 2 months in.... The EXACT SAME @%$#ing thing happened to me when I got into 5th edition 2 years ago but instead it was only 1 month... I bought both hardcovers editions of the rulebook and the small rule size editions... that's about $200.

I MEAN COME ON!!! I"M REALLY trying hard not to just skip 7th edition and wait till 8th edition comes out. I thought I had at least another year to enjoy 6th edition, since I assumed everything edition would at least 3-4 years. I understand they released a lot within these 2 years but I still think its way to early.

Anyways, that was just my rant... I will still be playing 6th edition for now if anyone is up for it next week. Just PM me for a causal game.

Hey guys! I'll be moving to Toronto for school soon. Anywhere I can play a game of WHFB or 40k? I'll most likely be living around walking distance to UoT

Meeple Mart is your best bet for U of T proximity.
So, if you don't mind sticking to 6th ed or less (or GorkaMorka!), that'd be the place to go.

Here's hoping that GW and them figure stuff out, it's a really nice location.

Also, anyone headed to the 7th ed launch thing tonight at Yonge & Lawrence?

Hunam0001 wrote:
Meeple Mart is your best bet for U of T proximity.
So, if you don't mind sticking to 6th ed or less (or GorkaMorka!), that'd be the place to go.

Here's hoping that GW and them figure stuff out, it's a really nice location.

Also, anyone headed to the 7th ed launch thing tonight at Yonge & Lawrence?

Meeplemart has only banned "legitimate" 7th ed. books we'll see how the situation develops.

GW is such a shifty company that makes so many stupid decisions that it feels dirty to support them, despite loving the 40k universe. I just wish that there was a unified online movement to create new game rules that people could proxy their 40k models for. If it was done right, I don't think the GW lawyer patrol could do much to prevent this. But it's probably next to impossible to get players to agree to nerfs/changes without the GW logo appearing there. Which is a shame, since the game design is clunky at best, and GW responds by making it more clunky and random.

Just a friendly reminder. This is a place for discussing the orginazation and meeting up for games and any details that might be relevant, or comments about said games, blah, blah, blah, etc... While the initial post about meeplemart's policy is relevant, there are more than enough GW sucks threads.

Hmm, well after reading the new rule book today I've got to say other than the psyker phase and a couple other tweaks there isn't a huge difference between 6th and 7th edition. Vehicle damage chart is interesting, though absolutely brutal for trying to kill super heavies, and the minor nerf to D weapons is pretty sweet for everyone who doesn't field such weapons, but the huge nerf to smash is going to cause a lot of issues with MC players out there. All and all though, should be pretty easy for people to switch from 6th to 7th without running into a lot of rule confusions that usually come with a new rule set.

Rythem wrote:
Hmm, well after reading the new rule book today I've got to say other than the psyker phase and a couple other tweaks there isn't a huge difference between 6th and 7th edition. Vehicle damage chart is interesting, though absolutely brutal for trying to kill super heavies, and the minor nerf to D weapons is pretty sweet for everyone who doesn't field such weapons, but the huge nerf to smash is going to cause a lot of issues with MC players out there. All and all though, should be pretty easy for people to switch from 6th to 7th without running into a lot of rule confusions that usually come with a new rule set.

Looks like there won't be much for me to learn then, besides the psyker phase. I don't even plan on getting the new book.

I'm glad about smash. Now my canifexes will get more strength 9 shots than my trygon will get at str 10.

Yeah, I like the new rules. Love the psychic stuff... Got a negative bump to my D strength weapon...invuln saves allowed now... But it's all good... I like the new damage table... It means you need weapons built for exploding tanks to actually explode a tank


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Question- please help: if I assault a skimmer with Wyches using haywire grenades, does the vehicle get jink saves? And do I use BS or WS on the assault battle?? I have played one way forever, and today someone told me it was wrong... But he was losing, and poorly making up new rules in an attempt to regain some control.... Thanks.


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Kungfujew: I know this was a rule question and should be asked somewhere else... Please do not ban me from the thread! He he


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.... I killed his super heavy tank.... It didn't kill anything... He was not happy

Always use ws in the assault phase, use bs in the shooting phase. As for getting a cover save in melee, that hasn't been allowed since 3rd edition i think, so not sure how your opponent thought differently. Now if you are throwing your haywire grenade in the shooting phase at his skimmer then you need bs and he gets a cover save.

That's what I thought... He was trying desperately to hold on to his last hull point... He survived long enough (with me conceding to play by his rules bc I couldn't definitively find a rule to counter him)... I missed 2 of 5 hits, then he jinked 2 of 3 haywire sand on his next turn used the skimmer (which should not have survived via jink saves) to kill a squad holding an objective..., as he begins losing, new rules get revealed and new war gear appear on his units...though no list is available for viewing...


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I laughed when karma settled in on the cheating.... I blasted a squad holding an objective....they broke and fell back off the table... But he said that the 'and they shall know no fear' rule allowed auto rally at table edge ......??? Then his scouts, who were unlucky enough to find themselves blown out of a vehicle and standing beside a heavy walker all of a sudden grew melta bombs.... He he...


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Funniest part.... Karma... I had Mephiston down to 1 wound....he was going to contest an objective with him... He cast a psychic ability...and perils took his last wound! Ha ha... But, apparently, Mephiston was NOT his warlord.... Beat him on secondary objectives...but he said it was a draw bc secondary objectives don't count in tournaments... I'm like... Dude, are we in a tournament??.


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Standing on a ruin (not a building; no different levels)... 4 inches between men... I say, you can't shoot your heavy weapons, you have to move into coherency.... Answer: allowed to be 4 inches apart in a ruin ?.?. ..... To avoid my blast from hitting more than one skimmer in his squadron, he put them 6 inches apart.... Answer: yup, in a squadron they can be double the normal coherency.... Isn't 2 x 2 equal to 4?????... OMG... I could go on and on... Sorry... I'm done now... Don't ban me kungfujew (he he...teasing)

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Kungfujew: I know this was a rule question and should be asked somewhere else... Please do not ban me from the thread!

You get a pass this time. But only because you said please. If you're not dong anything tomorrow, you should swing by legends. You can see me get tabled in a 6000 point game for the last time under 6th edition rules.

Lol, sounds like a rough game to play, is he blood angels or a mix force using 2 armies?

As for atsknf, it does let you auto rally, but it never saves you from the table edge. If you hit the edge you are gone. As for scouts having melta bombs, as far as i know only the sergeant can buy melta bombs and unless you know what you are facing, or have a very specific plan for your scouts it seems unlikely that someone would waste the points on a back field objective holding unit.

Now i can understand not having meph as your warlord, unless I am running only 1 hq I never use him as my warlord. Since he isn't an IC, and considering you have 2-3 super heavies with D weapons it is a very easy kill point to get. As for tournies not using secondaries for points, I have never been to one that doesn't use the secondary objectives in some form or another, and more than a few make up additional secondaries to add in.

As for the skimmers, being 4 inches apart should be more than enough unless you are firing apoc size blasts at him. There is no way a large blast can hit 2 vehicles that are 4 inches apart since it is only 2.5 inches from the middle hole to the edge.

Oh don't worry, you can complain about people all you want, hell we do it about you enough it would be bad karma on us if you were denied.

As long as it's about people n the GTA who have heard about 40K. No "My Grandma-in-law had us over an made she crap I hate cause she hates me.". Unless she hates you cause you threw down and your fluff Nids wreaked face on her tourney Eldar/tau/inq list so hard she flipped the tabe. In that case, make sure to link to the video bat rep in your rant.


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Rythem wrote:
Lol, sounds like a rough game to play, is he blood angels or a mix force using 2 armies?

As for atsknf, it does let you auto rally, but it never saves you from the table edge. If you hit the edge you are gone. As for scouts having melta bombs, as far as i know only the sergeant can buy melta bombs and unless you know what you are facing, or have a very specific plan for your scouts it seems unlikely that someone would waste the points on a back field objective holding unit.

Now i can understand not having meph as your warlord, unless I am running only 1 hq I never use him as my warlord. Since he isn't an IC, and considering you have 2-3 super heavies with D weapons it is a very easy kill point to get. As for tournies not using secondaries for points, I have never been to one that doesn't use the secondary objectives in some form or another, and more than a few make up additional secondaries to add in.

As for the skimmers, being 4 inches apart should be more than enough unless you are firing apoc size blasts at him. There is no way a large blast can hit 2 vehicles that are 4 inches apart since it is only 2.5 inches from the middle hole to the edge.

Shockingly enough, he played a quickie against himself to get a taste of winning and losing in the new rules. No one would have guessed he would take it ths far...

kungfujew wrote:

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Kungfujew: I know this was a rule question and should be asked somewhere else... Please do not ban me from the thread!

You get a pass this time. But only because you said please. If you're not dong anything tomorrow, you should swing by legends. You can see me get tabled in a 6000 point game for the last time under 6th edition rules.

I would love to... But I will be hosting Optimus at my place for a morning of killing a 7th edition Riptide wall!!

I'm going to be in Meeplemart tomorrow (sunday) around noon with a few friends to play a game of Level 7, a coop commandos-vs-aliens game in the same vein as space hulk (or xcom meets left 4 dead video games). Lots of fun for a bit of a change up from 40k.

I've got room for one or two more players if anyone would like to join in! Let me know.