The Doctor Who Thread

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**pretre**

Yeah, Tennant is definitely my favorite NewWho Doctor.

**NecronLord3**

I really don't like the idea of Hurt being the older 8th Doctor. If they wanted the 8th Doctor to have gone bad, they should have gotten that actor to reprise the role or just not have done it at all. I would prefer to think the Doctor is lying about his current incarnation, have it be a future incarnation, or come up with a plot line where that incarnation occurred but was somehow not considered part of the time lords cycle. But with the entire 11ths run we have really not seen any well written plot lines, just rehashed half thought out ideas that a barely strung together. I am just looking forward to seeing Tennet again and the death of Matt Smith's Doctor.

**pretre**

Well, personally, I think he's the 'doctor' between the McGann and Eccleston. We've never seen McGann's regeneration and that would cover the time war.

**NecronLord3**

Then the incarnation that the 9th, 10th, and 11th have claimed to be is wrong. Though this could be the secret that several characters have accused the doctor of keeping and the answer to the question Doctor Who? could be answered by the Doctors actual incarnation number.

**Lint**

NecronLord3 wrote: I am just looking forward to seeing Tennet again and the death of Matt Smith's Doctor.

Curious, where/when is this happening?

**pretre**

NecronLord3 wrote:
Then the incarnation that the 9th, 10th, and 11th have claimed to be is wrong. Though this could be the secret that several characters have accused the doctor of keeping and the answer to the question Doctor Who? could be answered by the Doctors actual incarnation number.

Exactly. Basically, as said in this episode, that incarnation is the one who broke the promise and was not 'The Doctor'. It means that the 9th, 10th and 11th Doctors are actually correctly the 9th, 10th and 11th doctors because the one after 8 was not the doctor just the 8th regeneration.

I laid it out a couple pages back like this:
- Hartnell - 1st Doctor, Unregenerated (or X previous regenerations that are unknown)
- Troughton - 2nd Doctor, 1st Regeneration
- Pertwee - 3rd Doctor, 2nd Regeneration
- T Baker - 4th Doctor, 3rd Regeneration
- Davison - 5th Doctor, 4th Regeneration
- C Baker - 6th Doctor, 5th Regeneration
- McCoy - 7th Doctor, 6th Regeneration
- McGann - 8th Doctor, 7th Regeneration
- Hurt - Not a Doctor, 8th Regeneration
- Eccleston - 9th Doctor, 9th Regeneration
- Tennant - 10th Doctor, 10th Regeneration
- Smith - 11th Doctor, 11th Regeneration

- 'Valeyard' - Not a Doctor, between 12th and 13th Regeneration according to the Master

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Lint wrote:
NecronLord3 wrote: I am just looking forward to seeing Tennet again and the death of Matt Smith's Doctor.

Curious, where/when is this happening?

Tennant is returning for the 50th anniversary. No one knows when Smith's doctor will regenerate.

**sirlynchmob**

The valyard was between the 12th and final regeneration, they never stated a final number.

12 regenerations sounded good back when they were only on the 5th doctor, but they'll find a way to keep him going as long as the ratings hold

The master was offered a complete new set of regenerations from the time lords, so the doctor who was president at the time probably knows how that can be done.

The doctor was also given a bunch of regeneration energy from his wife.

Plus he's on the good side of the white guardian, so he could probably pull some strings

**Anung Un Rama**

MajorTom11 wrote:The John Hurt being a regeneration of the Dr that wasn't the doctor is a cool angle, however, the Dr has always taken responsibility for ending the time war by essentially committing genocide on both the Daleks and the Timelords, so why is it so secret? I mean what could be revealed that goes above the twin genocides anyways?

That bothered me too. Ten never made that a secret. Still would make sense though and be a great set-up for a full season.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Also, the last episode is a cop out. They don't tell you his name ><

Look at it this way: The episode never was about what the name of the Doctor is, but instead what it means in regards to John Hurt.

**AduroT**

A series about an old man traveling around in his panel sided vehicle and trying to lure those less than a fifth his age inside with promises of adventure and candy.

**pretre**

AduroT wrote:
A series about an old man traveling around in his panel sided vehicle and trying to lure those less than a fifth his age inside with promises of adventure and candy.

You must be talking about Tom Baker's doctor.

'Jelly Baby?'

**BaronIveagh**

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-22741493

Smith is out, in xmas.

Matt Smith wrote:"Doctor Who has been the most brilliant experience for me as an actor and a bloke, and that largely is down to the cast, crew and fans of the show.

"I'm incredibly grateful to all the cast and crew who work tirelessly every day to realise all the elements of the show and deliver Doctor Who to the audience. Many of them have become good friends and I'm incredibly proud of what we have achieved over the last four years.

"Having Steven Moffat as show runner write such varied, funny, mind bending and brilliant scripts has been one of the greatest and most rewarding challenges of my career. It's been a privilege and a treat to work with Steven - he's a good friend and will continue to shape a brilliant world for the Doctor.

The fans of Doctor Who around the world are unlike any other; they dress up, shout louder, know more about the history of the show (and speculate more about the future of the show) in a way that I've never seen before.

"Your dedication is truly remarkable. Thank you so very much for supporting my incarnation of the Time Lord, number 11, who I might add is not done yet - I'm back for the 50th anniversary and the Christmas special.

"It's been an honour to play this part, to follow the legacy of brilliant actors, and helm the Tardis for a spell with 'the ginger, the nose and the impossible one'. But when ya gotta go, ya gotta go and Trenzalore calls. Thank you guys. Matt."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/articles/Matt-Smith-to-leave-Doctor-Who

**NecronLord3**

Finally! Hopefully they can get Benedict Cumberbatch to be the 12th Doctor.

**pretre**

NecronLord3 wrote:
Finally! Hopefully they can get Benedict Cumberbatch to be the 12th Doctor.

Un-likely.

**BaronIveagh**

Nah, we need Tom Hiddleston for a dark and brooding but erudite and charming Doctor.

**pretre**

Both have big careers right now, don't they?

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We need an old doctor. Or a woman or both.

**Compel**

Why was my first thought there, Pretre, Diana Rigg?

AKA Olenna Tyrell... (And Emma Peel)

**pretre**

Diana Rigg would be awesome. Cranky old doctor.

**NecronLord3**

pretre wrote:
Both have big careers right now, don't they?

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We need an old doctor. Or a woman or both.

Benedict Cumberbatch's is doing season 3 of Sherlock and has already recorded his voic work for smaug in the Hobbit. Otherwise his public schedule is clear.

Though there is an actor or two from Game of Thrones who will have open schedules pretty soon.

**pretre**

Spoilers, sweetie!

**BaronIveagh**

Peter Dinklage as the Doctor?

Mind = blown.

That would bury the needle on the awesome meter, though would be unlikely.

**NecronLord3**

BaronIveagh wrote:
Peter Dinklage as the Doctor?

Mind = blown.

That would bury the needle on the awesome meter, though would be unlikely.

not a free schedule, sorry.

**BaronIveagh**

NecronLord3 wrote:
not a free schedule, sorry.

Spoiler:

**NecronLord3**

Spoiler:

**4oursword**

Simon Pegg as the Doctor would be cool.

**NecronLord3**

A news article floating on FB is suggesting The Doctor is coming back female this time.

To satisfy critics they should be bring him back as a half black, half Asian female.

**AduroT**

They should bring him back as Morgan Freeman.

**NecronLord3**

I think that is the only non- British actor who would be accepted in the role.

**Kilkrazy**

NecronLord3 wrote:
A news article floating on FB is suggesting The Doctor is coming back female this time.

To satisfy critics they should be bring him back as a half black, half Asian female.

Not disabled?

Bigot!

**NecronLord3**

Kilkrazy wrote:
NecronLord3 wrote:
A news article floating on FB is suggesting The Doctor is coming back female this time.

To satisfy critics they should be bring him back as a half black, half Asian female.

Not disabled?

Bigot!

I haven't heard of anyone complaining that the Doctor doesn't represent the disabled but I guess they could accommodate that mid season where the Doctor suffers a disabling injury and has to construct a wheel chair ramp for the Tardis and realizes that he is gay.

I think that covers all the minorities... oh and we will make sure his next companion is Hispanic.

**reds8n**

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/06/02/who-will-be-the-thirteenth-doctor/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

William Hartnell, Patrick Troughton, Jon Pertwee, Tom Baker, Peter Davison, Colin Baker, Sylvester McCoy, Paul McGann, John Hurt, Christopher Eccleston, David Tennant, Matt Smith…

Who will play the Thirteenth Doctor? And, according to Time Lord lore, The Last Doctor?

We have some history here. Last time, Rich said for ages that it was Paterson Joseph. Because, at the time, it was. He was the Moffat favourite for some time, before Matt Smith’s audition. And Joseph has said publicly that he was second choice.

But you know, Rich did get it right. Eventually. And before it was announced.

Okay, okay, it turned out that he was the Twelfth Doctor. But still. We knew for a fact that David Tennant was coming back for the 50th anniversary, and that Matt Smith was absolutely, definitely leaving long before the announcement came. And we did have this extra regeneration thing tied up a few weeks ago…

First up, we understand that whoever the lucky actor is, they were cast earlier in the year. Moffat may be talking about looking for a replacement in the present tense, but the individual in question has been locked down since January. But who? Not sure. And is the actor in question male or female?

Now. Every time this comes around, the tabloids (and now The Times) start speculating if we will get a female Doctor. My instinct is still to say no…but if the Doctor gets an extended run past his thirteenth incarnation, that’s when something radical could and probably should happen. Maybe we’ll get a run of thirteen female Doctors from about 2017 on…?

But who are the names in the hat this time round? Here are thirteen Bleeding Cool suggestions for who we think may be up for playing Thirteen. Or not.

1. Ben Daniels

The Bleeding Cool favourite. You may know him from the recent House Of Cards remake, Cutting It or The State Within but he’s better known for his theatre work. Mentioned by a fair bunch of people, he’s seen as a sign that the Who crew may be going older this time.

2. Stephen Mangan

The star of Green Wing, Dirk Gently and Episodes. Again, he was mentioned by Who people. And before announcement last night, he tweeted this:

3. David Threlfall

Star of Shameless, which has recently come to an end. His range is far broader than the broadness of Frank Gallagher though, and you may also recognise him from Hot Fuzz. Again, we’ve heard his name suggested this time round.

4. Paterson Joseph

Yeah, well, second time lucky. Watch Neverwhere to see how he nailed pretty much this exact character in a completely different TV show. One written by Neil Gaiman too.

5. David Harewood

The bookies are giving good odds, and he also nailed The Marquis de Carabas. A popular pick with pundits in the press today too, so let’s just add to that.

6. Jenna-Louise Coleman

Another Bleeding Cool favourite. Seriously – don’t dismiss this out of hand. And wouldn’t it just put a particularly ferocious cat among the pigeons.

7. Sue Perkins

If one thing is guaranteed to keep Brendon watching the show, it would be the casting of Sue Perkins. There’s a twitter campaign too, with the hashtag #doctorSUE. And it’s okay, we wouldn’t have to have either Mel Geidroyc or Giles Coren as the companion.

8. Idris Elba

With barnstorming roles in The Wire and Luther, he has genre form in Ultraviolet, Prometheus and Thor, and can run down a corridor like nobody’s business.

9. James Nesbitt

He has history with Moffat in Jekyll, he’s dead sexy and every planet has an Ireland.

10. Benedict Cumberbatch

A proper fan favourite, this casting choice would probably crash Tumblr. And if Cumberbatch is unlikely to make series of Sherlock and Doctor Who in the same year, then Moffat would be too, and that’s what he really needs – time off to get fresh.

11. Chiwetel Ejoifor

Mentioned a lot the last time this all happened. His roles in Dirty, Pretty Things and Serenity have cemented his fandom. And he’s got an effortless charm.

12. David Tennant

Shut up.

No, think about it. What if he can sometimes regenerate backwards? Or what if Moffat sends the regenerating Smith off into a dark corner of the continuum, leaving a revitalised Ten (or Eleven, as it now is) to track him down and rescue him? Or something.

13. Alan Davies, Bill Bailey, Eddie Izzard and so on

No way. Straight off. They always get mentioned and… no. Also Bill Nighy turned it down once already. And Rowan Atkinson doesn’t want the work load. David Walliams has a slightly different ‘brand’ these days.

The “popular comedian player that always gets mentioned” can be a single entity for our purposes. A singular, never-gonna-get-it entity. It’s been too long since John Pertwee. Though, as we said before, Sue Perkins is a special case.

Brendon is going to put a couple of bets on tomorrow and Rich is going to put on four but we’re both favouring the same candidates, really, based on… what we’ve heard echoes of. Maybe we can make some money.

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