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hotsauceman1 wrote: She is just not that fun of a character. She doesnt have the sense of Awe the other do.
Explain that better.
Companions are supposed to be Awe-inspiring or are supposed to be inspired with awe?
She goes t these cool places with the docter and all she has is this slack jawed look like "Uhhh, what is this derp" And her back and forth is just not funny.
Explain. You mean the idea that there were clues up until the final story?
I mean that it was fine in the one series, but when it's still being used in series 4 and even as recently as last week, it does get a little repetitive. I just think that bringing her back again after Doomsday in Stolen Earth was a bit forced and uninspired, and prevented the Doctor from moving on.
He spent 900 years pre-Rose avoiding relationships with humans, and all of a sudden he's head over heels with Rose? No, sorry, I don't buy that.
Knowing what we know now about the War doctor, perhaps Eccleston needed someone, needed true companionship or love in order to get over what he did.
Even the biggest loner needs love sometimes.
Fair point, that is certainly something that came across in the series. I just find it a little sudden given the character of older Doctors. I can see the reasons, I'm just not a fan of it.
Somebody who dislikes Rose?! I think this is the first time I have encountered anyone with such an opinion. Why did she ruin it for you?
Well, I agree with many of the reasons already presented, but I just don't find her all that attractive (which could also come down to wardrobe choices, but the photo posted in thread isnt much better), and her voice is fething annoying and just grates on my nerves (though, to be fair, not as bad as Donna Noble's does). IMO, the doctor tends to like intelligent, witty and independent types for his companions, none of which describe Rose.
hotsauceman1 wrote: She is just not that fun of a character. She doesnt have the sense of Awe the other do.
Let me guess, you are too young to have had a crush on Tapenga, right?
From what, Boy Meets World? If yes, nope I grew up watching that show
Weird, Piper pushes my buttons in the same way Fishel used too. And however bad her acting could get, I would still get suckered in by them hips & lips.
[...] for conflict is the great teacher, and pain, the perfect educator.
Basically, the Doctor has used all his regens already, with Hurt being introduced and Tennant using one to save himself in 'Jounery's End'
I bet it will be all wibbly wobbly
Well the short before Day of the Doctors show the Doctor using a "potion" to help become the War Doctor (may not count as a true regen) and River used up her regens to save the Doctor. Maybe she didn't so much use them up as transfer them to the Doctor, less the one need to save him of course.
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Man #1: Bob, there's nothing you can do.
Bob: Well, I guess I'll just have to develop a sense of humor.
I'm also not a fan of Rose. That is, RTD's Rose. Now, the Rose in The Day of The Doctor, on the other hand, was really cool. Would've been wonderful if she had been like that during the RTD years.
Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote: I'm also not a fan of Rose. That is, RTD's Rose. Now, the Rose in The Day of The Doctor, on the other hand, was really cool. Would've been wonderful if she had been like that during the RTD years.
Rose wasn't in DotD. The Moment was.
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Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote: I'm also not a fan of Rose. That is, RTD's Rose. Now, the Rose in The Day of The Doctor, on the other hand, was really cool. Would've been wonderful if she had been like that during the RTD years.
Rose wasn't in DotD. The Moment was.
Then why did she call herself 'Bad Wolf'? And what interest is there for the Moment in changing the fate of Gallifrey?
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[...] for conflict is the great teacher, and pain, the perfect educator.
Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote: I'm also not a fan of Rose. That is, RTD's Rose. Now, the Rose in The Day of The Doctor, on the other hand, was really cool. Would've been wonderful if she had been like that during the RTD years.
Rose wasn't in DotD. The Moment was.
Then why did she call herself 'Bad Wolf'? And what interest is there for the Moment in changing the fate of Gallifrey?
The Moment picked a form from the Doctor's past/future; she called herself that because there was a connection between them that would be known to the doctor at the point the Moment picked from. There is also no interest from the Moment in changing anything; Rose was simply the Moment's conscience. It wasn't in its interest to do anything, it was simply the fact that there could have been another way.
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Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote: I'm also not a fan of Rose. That is, RTD's Rose. Now, the Rose in The Day of The Doctor, on the other hand, was really cool. Would've been wonderful if she had been like that during the RTD years.
Rose wasn't in DotD. The Moment was.
Then why did she call herself 'Bad Wolf'? And what interest is there for the Moment in changing the fate of Gallifrey?
The Moment picked a form from the Doctor's past/future; she called herself that because there was a connection between them that would be known to the doctor at the point the Moment picked from. There is also no interest from the Moment in changing anything; Rose was simply the Moment's conscience. It wasn't in its interest to do anything, it was simply the fact that there could have been another way.
She said that the Moment picked a form from the Doctor's past/future. She then said, "I think I'm called... Rose Tyler. No. Yes. No, sorry. I this form, I'm called... Bad Wolf."
Now, I'm not saying it's actually Rose there, but I do wonder why the Interface said that. It may be that she just represented another 'harbinger of the apocalypse', like Rose became when she was exposed to the TARDIS's engine. But it struck me as odd, and I wonder if there's not going to be a tie in later.
Another thing that struck me as weird was the bit about the scarf-girl hating her own sister. That seemed just a bit out of place.
[...] for conflict is the great teacher, and pain, the perfect educator.
Another thing that struck me as weird was the bit about the scarf-girl hating her own sister. That seemed just a bit out of place.
The Zygon talked about how it wished it had taken the "better looking" form of her sister. It was just implying that she was jealous of her sister's looks, in my opinion.
kay, there’s been a lot of fuss about upcoming announcements and releases regarding missing Doctor Who episodes. Bleeding Cool first ran stories about what’s now dubbed the Omnirumour about rumours of a found horde of the episodes in question, to a mixture of elation and condemnation.
Then Web Of Fear and episodes of Enemy Of The World were rereleased and suddenly people thought there might be something in this.
Since then, there’s been quite a cottage industry in the release and the regulation of such rumours. Last week press were running the stories that the announcement of Marco Polo would be made at the Doctor Who Afterparty on BBC3. We were wary of that, didn’t run it and, indeed, it did not come to pass.
But the Marco Polo rumours have been hard to ignore.
This is what is currently being rumoured amongst international television types over what they are expecting. As ever, bear in mind that this is hearsay and tittle tattle and, again, doesn’t come direvtly from anyone who has seen a frame in question.
But that was true last time as well.
But from what Bleeding Cool are told, Marco Polo and the Massacre Of St Bartholomew’s Eve, both starring William Hartnell, are nearly ready to go.
The rest are in negotiations regarding restoration with the revived-TIEA director Philip Morris. There are expectations for Power Of The Daleks and the Macra Terror to follow… though some also believe there’s an Evil Of The Daleks to come as well.
Expect everything to be denied of course. Maybe it’s all nothing more than idle gossip. Just remember the denials last time…
A BRIEF STATEMENT .T.I.E.A DOES NOT HOLD ANY MISSING EPISODES OF THE LONG RUNNING DR WHO SERIES. THE ORIGINAL VIDEO TAPES WERE WIPED SUBSEQUENT FILM COPIES WERE EITHER RETURNED TO THE BBC AND SENT TO LANDFILL ODD FRAGMENTS HAVE SURFACED TWO EPISODES ON 16MM FILM BUT THATS IT. THE PROGRAMMES IN QUESTION LIKE MANY OTHERS WERE DESTROYED AS THEY HAD NO FURTHER COMMERCIAL VALUE .THEY ARE NOT MISSING BUT DESTROYED THE END.I am sorry if this upsets some people but these are the facts.I have also become aware of the tracking of some of our clients shipments these are local cultural materials sent to us for migration to a modern format as the playback equipment in the country of origin no longer exists and as such is the best road to preserve international cultural heritage .I will be making no more statements on this subject.Philip MORRIS Executive director T.i.e.a
and scheduling wise..
This is how we are hearing Doctor Who Series Eight will break down. Again, nothing official, nothing released, don’t regard this as gospel. Or we’ll send Malcom Tucker round.
Fourteen episodes, split across two years.
Seven episodes, including a Christmas Special in 2014, including that two parter Dalek story. First episode on April 19th. And similarly, seven episodes, including a Christmas Special in 2015.
And that is how long Peter Capaldi is locked down to play the character. Doesn’t mean he won’t extend it, of course.
Let's hope he is around longer than that.
in the meantime
BAD wolf err language -- seriously -- ahoy in that
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I'm not too worried about Capaldi only being on the show for a season. Don't all BBC actors have to renew their contracts on a yearly basis? I know Tennant and Matt did.
I lapsed from my Doctor Who boycott to watch the 50th special, it was nice to see David Tenant as more than half of his episodes were tolerable, even a couple good and i didn't come out thinking it was bad.
John Hurt was relatively interesting but felt, to me, underdeveloped. Yes i am aware that it might have went beyond a (nearly) feature length episode to have a really fleshed out character but a couple more scenes would have been nice. My main problem is that he didn't seem particularly different, when the build up would suggest he very much was.
Another issue was the war scene in the painting. Why were Timelord combatants just Grunts? In the First series of 'Nu-Who' and i think a couple of Tenant episodes the war was described in Vague terms and the impression was of a pretty Unfathomable conflict, the name itself 'Timewar' would also suggest this. I am, again, aware of the slight unfairness of this criticism but i feel something more unique could have been shown than a 1940's air raid with flying saucers.
The climactic action scene was cool but made little sense. It also completely went against the fact that earlier on the other doctors were ready to blow the place up with him, with zero hints that they knew of an alternative. Either scene would have been a satisfying climax but trying to put in both riddled it with plot holes.
All in All it was enjoyable and quite thrilling when it needed to be
EDIT: I know it is incredibly bad criticism to suggest one's own alternatives but i think David Tenant should have said the exact number of children. '2.4 billion'(iirc) felt too vague.
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First time commenting here but since we are talking about the 50th...
I thought all in all it was good episode, a few plot holes here and there and nothing overly fantastic but overall i thought it was a fitting tribute to 50 years of the show.
the little references and links to other episodes and doctors was fantastic and the way they executed it really did sum up the franchise i felt.
The War Doctor was a little under developed as Perkustin has said but i feel it worked, adding much more would have seriously over complicated the episode and ruined it.
The main thing for me was the content of all 13 doctors, that i felt was fantastic. it shows in my eyes that Moffat at least plans to stick to the doctor's claim of only 12 regenerations, rather than stretching the franchise out beyond its reach and potentially ruining 50 years.
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Perkustin wrote: Another issue was the war scene in the painting. Why were Timelord combatants just Grunts? In the First series of 'Nu-Who' and i think a couple of Tenant episodes the war was described in Vague terms and the impression was of a pretty Unfathomable conflict, the name itself 'Timewar' would also suggest this. I am, again, aware of the slight unfairness of this criticism but i feel something more unique could have been shown than a 1940's air raid with flying saucers.
The Time War was unfathomable in size and scope, not in the power of the individual combatants. The are Time Lords and then there are guys from Gallifrey. Most of the grunts are guys from Gallifrey.
The climactic action scene was cool but made little sense. It also completely went against the fact that earlier on the other doctors were ready to blow the place up with him, with zero hints that they knew of an alternative. Either scene would have been a satisfying climax but trying to put in both riddled it with plot holes.
The whole of Doctor Who is inevitable odds until the Doctor does something clever that saves the day. This is just the same thing.
i think David Tenant should have said the exact number of children. '2.4 billion'(iirc) felt too vague.
I thought the same myself.
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I thought 1940s sci fi goodness was the WHOLE point of the doctor. I like nu-doctor I think it's far superior to the original ( I grew up watching tom baker) , My favourite doctor of all time being eccleston, I just loved his manic , ragey personality.
Billy piper is one of my fave companions, but I also like the insane dalek, she's very watchable.
The making of the doctor drama thingy I found to be excellent and I got almost teary at one point .
Long live 50 regens of the doctor!
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Wow WWZ was telling us the new Doctor would be Peter Capaldi, name in film credit W.H.O. Doctor.
Peter: As we all know, Christmas is that mystical time of year when the ghost of Jesus rises from the grave to feast on the flesh of the living! So we all sing Christmas Carols to lull him back to sleep.
Bob: Outrageous, How dare he say such blasphemy. I've got to do something.
Man #1: Bob, there's nothing you can do.
Bob: Well, I guess I'll just have to develop a sense of humor.
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Somebody who dislikes Rose?! I think this is the first time I have encountered anyone with such an opinion. Why did she ruin it for you?
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