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 Paradigm wrote:
 pretre wrote:
 AegisGrimm wrote:
I still would like to see the Doctor's daughter show up again.

Or better yet, grand daughter.


Both of those would be very interesting. I'm not sure they could do Susan any point soon as she was back on Gallifrey after she left the Doctor, so presumably was there in the Time War (although if they do bring Gallifrey back then it's doable). Bringing back Jenny (from the Progenitor) would be far easier, just pop forward to the future and run into her. I've read that Moffat said he'd like to bring her back at some point, so it's not a too distant possibility.

Actually, that's incorrect. Susan is on 22nd century earth. She stays there at the end of the Dalek Invasion of Earth.

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Dalek_Invasion_of_Earth

It would be quite easy for her to have gotten bored and hitched a ride somewhere else.

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Ah, my mistake. Well in that case bringing her back would be easy.

 
   
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 Paradigm wrote:
Ah, my mistake. Well in that case bringing her back would be easy.

Yeah, I think that'd actually be pretty awesome and easy.

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The Doctor's Daughter thing would actually make sense for her to be Regenerating, as the explanation of the terriforming device makes it sound very much like the Loom.


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Is Regeneration a natural ability of all Time Lords or is it technological? Or is it something unique to Doctor Who and a handful of other people?
   
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It's something they can all do, but on a natural level they can only do it 12 times, it requires some kind of technology to grant another 'cycle'.

I think it comes from their exposure to the Time Vortex, like most other Time Lord abilities, as the others on Gallifrey (the Time Lords are a separate society, and not the majority of the population) give no indication of being able to regenerate.

 
   
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 Paradigm wrote:
It's something they can all do, but on a natural level they can only do it 12 times, it requires some kind of technology to grant another 'cycle'.

I think it comes from their exposure to the Time Vortex, like most other Time Lord abilities, as the others on Gallifrey (the Time Lords are a separate society, and not the majority of the population) give no indication of being able to regenerate.


IIRC I think there was something about how all TLs can do it, but really only a few ultimately do so.
   
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So all Time Lords are Gallifreyans and can regenerate, but not all Gallifreyans are Time Lords? Time Lords are some kind of Elite in Gallifreyan society?

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I do t know, I have never heard the doctor refer to the people of Gallefrey as anything but the time lords. He has even refered to his race as time lords as I recall, as have other races. I think it being a title does make sense, but it has never played out that way.

Naturally it would appear that time lords are able to live hundreds of years in one life cycle. The doctor, however puts himself in harms way so often he has burned through his faster that time lords in general can do so. Also, it would appear that few spend 99% of their lives bounce through out time like the doctor does.
   
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Just realized that our new Doctor played the Chaplain in the much loved Ultramarines movie...
   
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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
So all Time Lords are Gallifreyans and can regenerate, but not all Gallifreyans are Time Lords? Time Lords are some kind of Elite in Gallifreyan society?
Yes.

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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
So all Time Lords are Gallifreyans and can regenerate, but not all Gallifreyans are Time Lords? Time Lords are some kind of Elite in Gallifreyan society?


The Time Lords are the rulers of Gallifrey. They can all regenerate, mostly live in the domed cities like the Capital and Arcadia, and have an affinity with Time Travel technology.

The rest of the Gallifreyans are split between two classes. There are almost-barbarians that live in the wastelands outside the cities, who have little technology and simply farm and hunt, not often involving themselves in the affairs of the Time Lords. There are also some Gallifreyans who live alongside the Time Lords, but are not TL themselves. This includes the Chancellery Guard and probably other service providers within the cities.

If you're looking for some information on Gallifrey from the show itself, have a look for the Tom Baker episode arc 'The Invasion of Time'. It is set almost entirely on Gallifrey, and as far as I'm aware it was the first time the show ever really looked into Time Lord society. Not only is it a great episode (it features the Sontarons invading Gallifrey and the newest edition has had all the CGI remastered) but it will give a good insight into Time Lord culture.

It should be on amazon or Ebay fair cheap, and if you can't find it, then look for the 'bred for war' box set', it features all 4 sontaron stories from OldWho, including the absolutely amazing 'The Time Warrior' and the rather funny 'The Two Doctors'. Shouldn't cost you more than about £15.

 
   
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 pretre wrote:
 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
So all Time Lords are Gallifreyans and can regenerate, but not all Gallifreyans are Time Lords? Time Lords are some kind of Elite in Gallifreyan society?
Yes.


It's never been clearly stated on screen though but that is what is described in the books etc and just makes sense. We do see Gallifreyans from outside the Capitol in Invasion of Time but there's nothing to suggest they can't regenerate, some might be Time Lords that have left their society. Oddly lots of Gallifreyans die but none ever regenerate on screen even those that surely should, which confuses the issue. Specifically coming to mind are Runcible and Goth in Deadly Assassin, the Castellan in Five Doctors, lots of chancellery guard, etc. It's a bit hard to argue which can and can't regenerate because none ever do even when they probably should

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I was under the impression that the Chancellery Guard were not Time Lords, just Gallifreyans that served them in the capital.

When explaining how River got Time Lord powers, the Doctor mentions how TL got their abilities from exposure to the Time Vortex. If we assume that includes the ability to regenerate, then that explains why Time Lords can regenerate while others can't.

 
   
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Thanks for the hints Paradigm, I'll definitely look for that show/series on video.

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 Paradigm wrote:
I was under the impression that the Chancellery Guard were not Time Lords, just Gallifreyans that served them in the capital.


I would agree that makes the most sense, but most evidence for the Gallifrey having a distinctly two tier society comes from books/audios and they do occasionally mention the Guard as regenerating. It's not particularly consistent.
   
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I've been rewatching a lot of old seasons and just hit on one of my favorite parts of Old Who: Turlough!

Nothing like having a companion who is out to get you.

We need more questionably useful companions. Between Tegan always getting herself in trouble, Adric dying and Turlough sabotaging everything, those were great times.

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 pretre wrote:
I've been rewatching a lot of old seasons and just hit on one of my favorite parts of Old Who: Turlough!

Nothing like having a companion who is out to get you.

We need more questionably useful companions. Between Tegan always getting herself in trouble, Adric dying and Turlough sabotaging everything, those were great times.


I guess Mickey counts... *winces from remembering Mickey
   
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 Dr. What wrote:
 pretre wrote:
I've been rewatching a lot of old seasons and just hit on one of my favorite parts of Old Who: Turlough!

Nothing like having a companion who is out to get you.

We need more questionably useful companions. Between Tegan always getting herself in trouble, Adric dying and Turlough sabotaging everything, those were great times.


I guess Mickey counts... *winces from remembering Mickey



Or is it Rickey?
   
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Mickey was a good step. And K9 was awesome! At least he wasn't the android (which everyone tries to forget).

I was sad when that guy who got the thing implanted in his head got kicked off. He would have been a great bad companion.

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 pretre wrote:
Mickey was a good step. And K9 was awesome! At least he wasn't the android (which everyone tries to forget).

I was sad when that guy who got the thing implanted in his head got kicked off. He would have been a great bad companion.


Adam?
And I liked Mickey

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I like the outfit. Very appropriate... with just a bit of John Pertwee to make it interesting.

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Ok, here's what we know so far:

First ep of the season will see the return of Madam Vastra, Jenny and Strax.

Possible Daleks.

Possible return by River Song, it's not clear.

The Master rumored to be returning this season.


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I like all of these things!

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I could very well see the return of the Master as the Time Lords would view him as expendable. Sending him out to find the Doctor and see whats going on.

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Not like Gallifrey hasn't done that one before.

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 Gitsplitta wrote:
I like the outfit. Very appropriate... with just a bit of John Pertwee to make it interesting.



I think that is still really late 11's outfit though. Could be filming a scene just after his regeneration and he hasnt had time to change outfits yet.
   
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I don't know... the purple theme throughout and the frilly cuffs suggest something done on purpose... but perhaps your right. I guess time will tell.

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