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I think it is more giving the Doctor a touchstone on earth rather than trying to create a spin-off. It feels very UNIT-ish but in the Victorian age.
I would love to see more of UNIT (although we did get some in the 50th) again.
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That's almost certainly Matt's costume, I doubt we'll see Peter's for a while.
The rumours are interesting, to say the least. Daleks? Yes. Vastra, Strax and Jenny? Cool. River coming back? Not sure, I kind of feel the character has run her course and now that we've seen the goodbye from both ends, it's time to let her go.
The Master? HELL YEAH! Should be awesome, whether it's John Simm or a new guy.
I agree with wanting to see more of UNIT, as Kate 'brigadier junior' Stewart and Osgood (sciencey one) are both good characters. The 70s UNIT days were some of my favourites, so a return to that style would be most welcome.
I certainly wouldn't find a Team Vastra spin off, it would be worth watching just for Strax's awesome lines. He is officially the funniest dwarf-potato-man-alien on TV.
But really? Turlough? Tegan? Adric? I must say, I found that era so annoying. Tegan just complained about everything, and Turlough was a bit rubbish.
I'll agree that Mickey and k9 are awesome, as was Rory.
Paradigm wrote: But really? Turlough? Tegan? Adric? I must say, I found that era so annoying. Tegan just complained about everything, and Turlough was a bit rubbish.
That was the great thing about them. I loved that run of Who. They were all so human. Having all the companions be brilliant at everything gets dull. Tegan whined and screwed up and got taken over by the Mara. Adric and Nyssa did sciency stuff but got in trouble a lot, Adric dying off and Nyssa causing all sorts of fun with the old goatee Master. Turlough was great! Nothing like having a mole in the part to spice things up. Flawed characters are a lot more interesting. The Doctor has always had his flaws but one of the problems with New Who is that his companions haven't had very many.
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I appreciate a character needs flaws, but I just found them to be so grating and annoying. The Doctor claims to 'only take the best' and yet Tegan goes running around getting in trouble and just generally complaining.
Paradigm wrote: I appreciate a character needs flaws, but I just found them to be so grating and annoying. The Doctor claims to 'only take the best' and yet Tegan goes running around getting in trouble and just generally complaining.
When does he claim to only take the best? The companions are at their best when they are getting in trouble. Some of the best moments of Who are when he sacrifices himself to save Companions (Androzani, Parting, End of Time). Heck, Doctor Who starts with Susan drawing unwanted attention to the Doctor and getting him his second and third companion.
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I believe it's in 'The Long Game' after he drops off the useless Adam, telling him 'I only take the best. I've got Rose'.
And I do agree that the sacrifice and dealing with their humanity is a huge part of the Doctor's character, but I just didn't find Tegan an engaging character at all. There have been far, far better companions.
Paradigm wrote: I believe it's in 'The Long Game' after he drops off the useless Adam, telling him 'I only take the best. I've got Rose'.
And I do agree that the sacrifice and dealing with their humanity is a huge part of the Doctor's character, but I just didn't find Tegan an engaging character at all. There have been far, far better companions.
I think that's mostly him just telling off Adam and is new Who so has certainly changed over time. Either way, opinions are opinions. I happened to like Tegan, you didn't no biggie.
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Was this worth the wait? And yes, those are Doctor Martens.
Capaldi himself is quoted, in a BBC press release, as saying:
He’s woven the future from the cloth of the past. Simple, stark, and back to basics. No frills, no scarf, no messing, just 100 per cent Rebel Time Lord
Meanwhile, Moffat proffered:
New Doctor, new era, and of course new clothes. Monsters of the universe, the vacation is over – Capaldi is suited and booted and coming to get you!
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
I absolutely love the new costume, but Capaldi himself really weaves it all together. On anyone else it'd look pretty stupid, but his demeanour and face really allow the entire thing to scream "rebel" and "don't feth with me" without looking laughable and out of place.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
Hmm, interesting. Seems to completely differ from the rather over-the-top nature of Smith's last few costumes. I think the simpler style may work nicely in that respect, giving him an element of class and gravitas.
I'm almost disappointed by the lack of a real identifying feature. As odd as the scarf/frills/bow tie/trainers(/Celery!?) were, they did add to the character. Still, the plainness may well end up defining in itself, and to be honest, I think it's clear he means business. Perhaps, going forward, the story's going to be a little less fairlytale and more down to Earth.
Still, enough costumes, I just can't wait to see him act. From what I've seen of him in The Musketeers (good program, by the way, for those not watching it), he seems almost a little flat, but that could just be the scripts. I'm still confident he can pull off a quite serious, dark and clever Doctor.
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For anyone who hasn't seen it yet. I like it, it definitely suits him as a serious doctor.
I'm more interested in what they do for the master...
EDIT: Oh, and please let River Song disappear. I found her to be the most irritating, one-dimensional character I've ever seen, especially during Series 6. She had a lot of potential in Silence in the Library, but it went downhill rather quickly from there.
Apart from the mini-episode Last Night. The scene where the Doctor realises this is her last time with him before she dies was very well done.
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He kinda looks like a pissed off Mr. Rogers. He's got the sweater (though in reality, I'd bet it's a vest, not sweater) on, but the jacket over top to show everyone he means business.
Looking at it more, it's like a more refined Pertwee. Same darkness but with the red lining, just like JP's cape/jacket. White shirt but no frilly bits.
For anyone who hasn't seen it yet. I like it, it definitely suits him as a serious doctor.
I'm more interested in what they do for the master...
EDIT: Oh, and please let River Song disappear. I found her to be the most irritating, one-dimensional character I've ever seen, especially during Series 6. She had a lot of potential in Silence in the Library, but it went downhill rather quickly from there.
Apart from the mini-episode Last Night. The scene where the Doctor realises this is her last time with him before she dies was very well done
I think that's probably a fake, to be honest. I doubt it's coincidence that he's in exactly the same pose in both the press release and that, and there's also no way we'd be seeing anything that concrete about a series not due for another 7 months minimum.
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d-usa wrote: Well, apparently the episode is real and it sounds like they are actually going to work his appearance from "Fires of Pompeii" into the episode.
Sounds interesting.
the name of the episode is, but the poster is not:
The Doctor Battles the clockwork droids in Victorian England whilst also uncovering the truth behind 'Jack the Ripper'. Whilst Clara meets a very familiar face.
8.2 'Across the Stars'
On a scientific way station in the year 3056 Clara and the Doctor uncover a DNA experiment thats about to go very wrong.
8.3 (Unknown)
8.4 'TBA'
Said to revolve around the assassination of JFK
8.5 'The Cult of Ra'
An Egyptian set episode
8.6 (Unknown)
8.7 (Unknown)
8.8 (Unknown)
8.9 'TBA'
Said to be set on a forest world. Maybe the River song episode
8.10 'The Ghosts of Pompeii'
The Doctor and Clara travel to Pompeii to try and solve the mystery of his latest incarnation. The episode sees the return of the Pyrovile and fan favourite who appears in a cameo.
8.11 'TBA'
The Doctors quest to find Gallifrey is over.
8.12 'Master and Commander (rumoured)'
The return of the Master and consequently the Time lords. Its believed the Master is now the president and will be played by esteemed british actor Charles Dance.
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To be honest, I wish they would just ignore him having already been in it. He's an actor, he plays different roles. Colin Baker appeared before being the Doc and no one cared, why would it matter now?
Some of those rumoured episode titles look rather fascinating, and
Yeah, there's certainly a history of repeat actors.
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pretre wrote: Yeah, there's certainly a history of repeat actors.
That's why I'm hoping that it will at least be an interesting and meaningful interaction if they are choosing not to ignore it. It has the potential to be pretty interesting. Of course it also has the potential for becoming a giant stupid plot hole.
pretre wrote: Its believed the Master is now the president and will be played by esteemed british actor Charles Dance.]
Charles Dance as the Master?
Wow. Just... wow. That would be awesome. No disrespect to John Simm, who was great in Life On Mars, but they needed a new actor for the Master. Simm was not a very good Master. Eric Roberts, by any objective measurements a horrible Master, was better than Simm. Yes, he chewed scenery, too, but at least Roberts didn't play the role as an over the top pantomime dame, with none of the dark menace of Delgado. Or Ainley. Or the guy with the burnt skull makeup from Deadly Assassin...
But Charles Dance? Please let it be true.
Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease!
I think I need a Kleenex.
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For those who weren't aware of who Charles Dance is (like I was)...
Spoiler:
Awesome.
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Some of the best moments of Who are when he sacrifices himself to save Companions (Androzani, Parting, End of Time). Heck, Doctor Who starts with Susan drawing unwanted attention to the Doctor and getting him his second and third companion.
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