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Tunnel? Your digging from your hut to the tundra you want to live in? Uh...
Yeah... I'd suggest that if that is what you're doing quit it now. One, its going to take ages, and two, its going to go through a lot of people's land/underground homes. You might say you'll just dig around any structures and the like, but you're still digging on someone else's plot which is a no no. Like I said with you building right next to Mondo80's, never build on someone's land without their permission. Digging a tunnel's taking at to a new scale. =P
Go find to the nether portal at spawn and use that to get to Anvildude's; which is probably the closest to where you want to go. Following the signs there to my house, but when you get to the tunnel where the floor is wood and the walls are netherbrick keep going forward until the ground is dirt. Its the bit where if you continued following the signs you would turn left and find two sets of stairs. The one of the left is stone, which is my house, the one on the right is netherbrick (I think) and goes down, which is Mel's.
I quite like tunnels! I have one that's 4000+ blocks long. I don't think it goes through anyone else's land... but if it does, I am sure they and I can reach some kind of accommodation, since I'm only using a 2x3 block cross-section that they very likely wouldn't even notice.
Wyrmalla wrote: Tunnel? Your digging from your hut to the tundra you want to live in? Uh...
Yeah... I'd suggest that if that is what you're doing quit it now. One, its going to take ages, and two, its going to go through a lot of people's land/underground homes. You might say you'll just dig around any structures and the like, but you're still digging on someone else's plot which is a no no. Like I said with you building right next to Mondo80's, never build on someone's land without their permission. Digging a tunnel's taking at to a new scale. =P
Go find to the nether portal at spawn and use that to get to Anvildude's; which is probably the closest to where you want to go. Following the signs there to my house, but when you get to the tunnel where the floor is wood and the walls are netherbrick keep going forward until the ground is dirt. Its the bit where if you continued following the signs you would turn left and find two sets of stairs. The one of the left is stone, which is my house, the one on the right is netherbrick (I think) and goes down, which is Mel's.
So far it seems to mostly pass under uninhabited land. Moving was also not the only reason for it. I was making metro stops along the way, with the intent of eventually having a powered rail in each direction. One of the stops is at a forest that also has many sheep. It isn't actually taking that long to build, but it's taking longer than I would want to get to the Tundra.
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You said you started from your house on Mondo80's, presumably that means your building it on his land. What end's it going to serve if you start building the thing in a place that you shouldn't be mining out in the first place? I'm suggesting that you stop building on and under other people's land, by that I mean stop and go set up someplace that's clearly uninhabited. Building a tunnel to get away from a place the place that you were squatting's still constitutes being on other people's claimed plots.
Ok. It should be better, since I have iron armor now. I died twice in the last times that I tried to move.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Night is beginning and I'm in Anvil's survival tower closest to the castle.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I arrived at nightfall, now I'm underground waiting for day.
I made this as my possible boundary:
Automatically Appended Next Post: I'm planning to build a "minecraft nation," for anyone who wants to live in it. It will be walled off and eventually have torches to keep out monsters.
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Considering you haven't started building your home yet you may be getting ahead of yourself with that. For one that area you marked out either encompasses other people's land, or is close to it (200 blocks away from them is the minimum) suggested distance). Another is that most people try and retain themselves to much smaller areas typically. For instance a single biome's usually enough space for even the largest of building projects. This server's full of unfinished big builds, so for a start I'd say building up an initial house is probably a better idea than creating an empire. =P
I'd suggest talking to Anvildude about any expansionist projects in that area. I think he's the only active member who lives there, but he intends to greatly expand his castle.
Oh, and on the note of being active. A house may appear to be no longer be inhabited. However as long as the user's still listed on the server its regarded as still being lived in. If there's a need to build in the area of a home of a user that's not been on the server for months though Darkinnit may be persuaded to allow you to build there (say for the trans server train line that was being build for instance). Really with any big builds that encompass a lot of land its best to put it by him first as it limits the building space available for new members on the existing map (ie there's an unlimited amount of space in the world, but only a 5000 x 5000 area is actually displayed on the online map).
Edit: Fecking ninja posting skills Anvil
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Wyrmalla wrote: Considering you haven't started building your home yet you may be getting ahead of yourself with that. For one that area you marked out either encompasses other people's land, or is close to it (200 blocks away from them is the minimum) suggested distance). Another is that most people try and retain themselves to much smaller areas typically. For instance a single biome's usually enough space for even the largest of building projects. This server's full of unfinished big builds, so for a start I'd say building up an initial house is probably a better idea than creating an empire. =P
I'd suggest talking to Anvildude about any expansionist projects in that area. I think he's the only active member who lives there, but he intends to greatly expand his castle.
Oh, and on the note of being active. A house may appear to be no longer be inhabited. However as long as the user's still listed on the server its regarded as still being lived in. If there's a need to build in the area of a home of a user that's not been on the server for months though Darkinnit may be persuaded to allow you to build there (say for the trans server train line that was being build for instance). Really with any big builds that encompass a lot of land its best to put it by him first as it limits the building space available for new members on the existing map (ie there's an unlimited amount of space in the world, but only a 5000 x 5000 area is actually displayed on the online map).
Edit: Fecking ninja posting skills Anvil
I just got my house setup, so I could start building a wall around my part of the area. I will talk to Anvil since I did originally want to be able to have him within the borders, if he wants to be. And I'd also be willing to allow new players into the kingdom for their space.
Darkinnit the motel at spawn for new players (sandstone building to the left of the platform across from the melon/pumpkin patch) has had its roof stolen. I will have to give it eight out of ten stars and report it as satisfactory to any backpackers wishing to stay there.
Mind that the given area you've penned out infringes on at least four user's homes, of which I know at least Anvildude and Melissia (and possible Oshuna, he loves his pagodas) live. I'd suggest that first of all you build your home (far outside someone else's boundaries) then afterwards think about building a wall. Claiming seven biomes (again at least, that's discounting the snow) would be too much for an existing user known for huge building projects, for a new user to do it off the bat without even a slow growth across those areas is something is something to be dissuaded.
As an example; Ma55terfett's home crosses five biomes. Its regarded as quit a feat, and the largest structure on the whole server (yes he's gloating a great deal right now).
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Wyrmalla wrote: Mind that the given area you've penned out infringes on at least four user's homes, of which I know at least Anvildude and Melissia (and possible Oshuna, he loves his pagodas) live. I'd suggest that first of all you build your home (far outside someone else's boundaries) then afterwards think about building a wall. Claiming seven biomes (again at least, that's discounting the snow) would be too much for an existing user known for huge building projects, for a new user to do it off the bat without even a slow growth across those areas is something is something to be dissuaded.
As an example; Ma55terfett's home crosses five biomes. Its regarded as quit a feat, and the largest structure on the whole server (yes he's gloating a great deal right now).
Maybe a little
Also there is plenty of land up for grabs further out beyond the edges of the map no need to step on each others toes.
As a matter of fact I have a little island at x =30,000 z =3000 so I can attest to the fact that the map goes on quite aways.
Page from my travels
Spoiler:
At the next island large enough to have one tree growing on it, I stopped and built a base.
I placed torches all around it and built a gakky little tower to photograph the island from
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Wyrmalla wrote: Mind that the given area you've penned out infringes on at least four user's homes, of which I know at least Anvildude and Melissia (and possible Oshuna, he loves his pagodas) live. I'd suggest that first of all you build your home (far outside someone else's boundaries) then afterwards think about building a wall. Claiming seven biomes (again at least, that's discounting the snow) would be too much for an existing user known for huge building projects, for a new user to do it off the bat without even a slow growth across those areas is something is something to be dissuaded.
As an example; Ma55terfett's home crosses five biomes. Its regarded as quit a feat, and the largest structure on the whole server (yes he's gloating a great deal right now).
Maybe a little
Also there is plenty of land up for grabs further out beyond the edges of the map no need to step on each others toes.
As a matter of fact I have a little island at x =30,000 z =3000 so I can attest to the fact that the map goes on quite aways.
I did check, and it looks pretty empty. There's some buildings near the edges, but I'm not planning to include those. The Kingdom of Kiip seems to be pretty similar in size, although a large part of it does seem to be water.
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You seem to not be reading my posts in full. The edge of your wall is within viewing distance of Anvildude's home. He said that he was going to be using that area before you had built it that far.
So I'll say again, as evidently I'm not making my point clear somehow. Start building a home in the middle of the area where you decided to situate your empire. Don't start by walling off a huge area of land which borders close to other people's homes (thus meaning that they can't build anything without having to ask you for permission), then building a small house in the middle of it. You've only asked one of the people who live in that area if you could lay claim to their homes, and the response you got was a polite no. Don't continue to build regardless...
Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote: Ok. It should be better, since I have iron armor now. I died twice in the last times that I tried to move.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Night is beginning and I'm in Anvil's survival tower closest to the castle.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I arrived at nightfall, now I'm underground waiting for day.
I made this as my possible boundary:
Automatically Appended Next Post: I'm planning to build a "minecraft nation," for anyone who wants to live in it. It will be walled off and eventually have torches to keep out monsters.
That is a ridiculous size for your boundary. I can see at least 3 places where people live right by your border and may want to expand outwards. By all means, make an empire or some jazz, but your border is a hell of a lot bigger than Stormwarrior's kingdom. Also, how could anyone build in land that stretches over 2000 blocks, its completely absurd.
Take it easy before going mental. Oh yeah, read the FAQ.
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Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote: Ok. It should be better, since I have iron armor now. I died twice in the last times that I tried to move.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Night is beginning and I'm in Anvil's survival tower closest to the castle.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I arrived at nightfall, now I'm underground waiting for day.
I made this as my possible boundary:
Automatically Appended Next Post: I'm planning to build a "minecraft nation," for anyone who wants to live in it. It will be walled off and eventually have torches to keep out monsters.
That is a ridiculous size for your boundary. I can see at least 3 places where people live right by your border and may want to expand outwards. By all means, make an empire or some jazz, but your border is a hell of a lot bigger than Stormwarrior's kingdom. Also, how could anyone build in land that stretches over 2000 blocks, its completely absurd.
Take it easy before going mental. Oh yeah, read the FAQ.
And the main reason why it is so big is because I hate visitors. Hence why I go everywhere with diamond equipment and refuse to build a structure. I like being alone Plus I actually build alot.
From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war.
He's referring to Inquisitor Ehrenstein's designated area, not your's. His is a ways larger than your's. =P
The increased mob aggro range is really killing me whilst building my wall. Having zombies come out of the blue when balancing on a one block thick bridge above a pitfall is getting to be a tad like jousting...
Wyrmalla wrote: He's referring to Inquisitor Ehrenstein's designated area, not your's. His is a ways larger than your's. =P
The increased mob aggro range is really killing me whilst building my wall. Having zombies come out of the blue when balancing on a one block thick bridge above a pitfall is getting to be a tad like jousting...
Not true. And yeah I knew thats who he was talking to.
From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war.
upon closer inspection of the posted map and the actual map shows that there are already structures within his "claimed" area.
I really have no issues with solo building, mega building kingdom building or communal building; but lets get to the facts. There is really so much empty space in the dakka world (the dakkamap is just a pinpoint of the whole) there is no real need to build so close to each other.
If you want to make a kingdom go scour the map for an area you can claim that's not going to infringe upon existing players or contain them within your boundary.
I would highly recommend that instead of building a lengthy cobble wall around nothingness, how about you start by building your Minecraft Nation first? Then build your wall afterwards. This allows you to more accurately judge the scope of your project and will also draw less criticism from the more sceptic people in this thread. A wall will not stop mobs spawning inside the grounds.
If you continue this wall, it appears very anti-social to others, which sounds like the opposite of what you want if you're saying "I'd also be willing to allow new players into the kingdom"
Remember that the map zooms in and out quite a good way and so vast tracts of land may be larger than they appear.