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at storag... the doors are just a means to get the audience up to the area there ... and for modeling aspects the doors are a mere detail to break up the big space on the wall... i needed to do something... and these make as much sense than other stuff...


at Lord of Timbraxia :

hello Lo o T (sorry had that idea for a cool nickname for you just as a saw your name ) welcome to this lil thread... well when i say lil it is a lie so big we all instantly see it many thanks for the high praise... while i occaisionally come to finish the odd project ...against all better knowledge^^ i still have a big shelf of shame with all the big or small unfinished things i started....so don´t feel bad about loosing interest mate... goes with the hobby^^ i am currently finishing this dio here just to allow me after this a new project i long for for quite a long time... i need to get back to all things concerning steam... so finishing this meag project is also for starting something new

and abbney park is really cool.... my favorite of course is :

cool music vik, and i am super pumped to seem some steam punk back in here.

yeah... it is essential! all that high tech stuf... needs to be compensated for good soon sure enough^^

Steampunk is cool, but the termin is growing soooo broad today.... which is good i think, Personally I grew so attached to the Dishonored version of it that I really consider making something in that style one day. Have you tried it yet Vik?

Heh.. LooT eh? I could get used to that name :p
I might just hang around.

 storag wrote:
Steampunk is cool, but the termin is growing soooo broad today.... which is good i think, Personally I grew so attached to the Dishonored version of it that I really consider making something in that style one day. Have you tried it yet Vik?

I myself grew up with the steampunk shown by such epic films as 'Sky Captain: The World of Tomorrow', 'Treasure Planet' and 'The Iron Giant' (youngun' films I know, but I was a youngun when I watched them ). And obviously, Warhammer had a driving force for me all the way through. I actually think it was this thread that compelled me to buy the 'Steampunk Bible' by Jeff Vandermeer and throw myself into it, pocketwatch and all!

So, Vik and the League, I have you lot to blame for all of this!!

As far as I know there is a general term for all versions of alternative history - chronopunk. Steampunk is just one case involving use of steam as the main energy source. There are also dieselpunk, cyberpunk even pre-historic versions like The Flintstones and much more... Sky Captain is a great movie but there are no "steam" in it =) The only true and strict steampunk media I konw of is the "Steamboy" anime. But that's isn't really important 'cuz people usally refer to visual rather than fictional elements when using this term.

Yeah. Sky Captain's Dieselpunk with a bit of Atomicpunk thrown in, Treasure Planet's... uh... Solarpunk? AetherPunk? Something like that. And Iron Giant's pure Atomicpunk.

Ah, so much 'punking. But yeah, thanks for the heads up storag & Anvil

I have no idea why people insist that because it's steampunk everything must be steam-powered, it just isn't true. People have this obsession with categorizing and labeling things, and frankly, they are just ignorant about it.

I always thought it was more about the era:

Steampunk = Victorian Era (mid 1800s)

I don't know what that would make Sky Captain, or Treasure Planet (or Atlantis), but Iron Giant was always just a movie set in the 50s to me (not punk-anything).

It's not the Steam Powered-ness that defines Steampunk. It's the time, location, fashion, and general feel of the work that determines which kinda 'Punk' it is.


Cyberpunk, the Grand Daddy of them all, is Dystopian and trans-human. Electronics, prostheses, leather and plastic and dyed hair/eyes/tats/genetics, everyone downtrodden except the really, really rich dudes. Technology is commonplace, yes, but it's treated as unimportant, or as something that's keeping people down. Very Grimdark in a lot of ways.

Steampunk is much brighter, and more likely to be Utopian. The fashions are Victorian, with corsets and wasp-waists, bustles and gloves important for the women, hats and coats and canes for the men (or the 'lower class' look of button shirts and courderoys and slouch hats). The technology is New and Exciting, bringing higher standards of living to everyone. Usually Clockworks and Steamworks, and occasionally it utilizes period "Science" like Luminiferous Aether and the 4 Humours.

Dieselpunk is, essentially, Mad Max. Often Post-Apocalyptic, where 'fashion' is scavenged and dirty, and everything's built from junk, and kept running as long as possible. Gasoline is more valuable than blood, and people fight over dwindling resources. Often the 'goal' is to find an Eden of some sort, where you can live without killing.

Atompunk is usually set between WWII and the end of the Cold War, where the power of SCIENCE! is unlocking the potential of the Atom. Everything gets irradiated, and Man Dabbles in things He was Not Meant to Know. Often crosses with Wierd War II and Nazi Superscience.

Cattlepunk is a sort of Wild West World, where the only law is the Gun, and who's the faster draw.

cattle punk... now there is always something new to learn from you guys when you have one of your dicussions on my thread, mind you... way too scarcely i might add

and while i like the descriptions of storag and anvildude to the themes definitions of various anachronistic versions of ~ punkisms... i like to join dave here:

I have no idea why people insist that because it's steampunk everything must be steam-powered, it just isn't true. People have this obsession with categorizing and labeling things, and frankly, they are just ignorant about it.

which describes my feeling to the matter in perfection...!!!

at Lo O T

I might just hang around.

i´ll take your word for it

at storag... nope, haven´t tried out a new game for months now... time and money are going into hobby and family so currently no plans... the thing i like most is sandbox games that give me plenty of room to play within...so basically i am searching for a new fallout
and please do a steampunk mini even only once... would love to see your take on that subject! i´ve seen RS Jake succumb to the theme and it was brilliant... so i think yours would be too


today i aplied a mix of metal and black to the audience section... pics tomorrow maybe... for a presentation there needs to be a certain "newness" of the information in the pics... and currently it isn´t ebough for my own taste^^

cheerio... and get on with discussing stuff here

@ categorizing issue
Like it or not guys but that's just how our brain works. We get to know things by labeling them not any other way around....

@ no-steam issue
Then why was it called steampunk at the first place and not Victorian punk, for instance? I do agree that the term obviously overgrow it's origins but it's fiction and every fiction is a simplified system defined by very few basic concepts like "what if..." and the idea of steam powered tech was crucial imo in deriving that unique visual style we all know now.

PS
Vikpunk is what I'll call your creations from now on

 storag wrote:
Vikpunk is what I'll call your creations from now on

Awesome

LMAO!!! vikpunk.... now i need to copyright that very quick...!!!


i totally love your way to go all logical on me storag!!! brillant but nutty^^

and... you are of course right... we use sterotypes to move along in the thick syrup of life ... without them we would be like kids... really small ones even... so we learn... we stop thinking and use learned reactions from our already- done- shelf... till we see it is not working as planned.... and mind you very few even notice this

Before internal combustion engines were commonplace, the steam engine was commonplace. It's the era of Steam, that's why it is called steampunk (sci-fi without internal combustion). Diesel engines replaced steam on the railroads in the next era, that is why they refer to the next era as Dieselpunk (lack of integrated circuits) which is the only technological difference between warfare today and during WW2.

hmmm... what aboput computers? for targeting and logistics?

yes, the Almighty Integrated Circuit, our lord and master!

ah....understood....

me and electronics... well... we went seperate ways many moons back then

Meh..i miss the hard wire days. Hacking was easier.

somehow that reminds me of han solo.... remember that classic scene on endor?

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
somehow that reminds me of han solo.... remember that classic scene on endor?

nope...dont even think i seen that movie. Let the fire fly out.

Lies...

BURN HIM

man its been a while since ive been on dakka, i remember when this thread was only 50 pages long, its been quite a while, even the League when it was just only 5 members is now a large community Goodwork guys, Viktor your threads looking amazing ive only made it the 120 but ill get there !!

hey!!! now that´s a ghost from the past, eziekiel...!!!

page 120? man i have no clue what was what i did back then^^
well...welcome back mate!!! good to see you back into the fold

at comrade.... i didn´t thought it would be possible to be in a position where a gibbslap wouldn´t do...mate... you are in for a good trashing... we need to pound some sense in you... "WILL YOU INSTANTLY PLEASE WATCH THAT MOVIE???" or else...

 storag wrote:

doesn´t show... what is it? i am now on their page...

you are on page 378 vik and continue you this madness please

Vik, I corrected the link, does it work now?