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Still playing TW: Warhammer 2 and boy can it get frustrating, especially when fighting against Sword Masters of Hoeth (which are my favourite unit in High Elves, ironically) but getting used to it. Tyrion is a frigging machine in all honesty.

Eumerin wrote:

 Adrassil wrote:
That explains it, then, thanks! Don't think I'll buy it unless it's super cheap lol

It'll probably be 75% off when the Summer Sale arrives.

Is it still worth it? Excuse my cynicism but it feels like a bit of a scam to make people buy TW: Warhammer. Is Mortal Realms good?

So, IMO, a great game is one that accoplishes what it sets out to do. It doesnt need an intimate story , or intricately crafted gameplay to bee good.
Man eater is like that. Its gameplay is simple, with is a little issue with controlling but it gets over quickly. the world is silly and funny. The story has silly characters right out of shows from, the discoery channel, some whackiness combined with humor.
And it was FUN.
Kinda wish there was more to do once you are finished, but thats fine, the game didnt overstay its welcome, came in, said "Play me to a fun podcast and have a blast"
and I did

 Adrassil wrote:
Still playing TW: Warhammer 2 and boy can it get frustrating, especially when fighting against Sword Masters of Hoeth (which are my favourite unit in High Elves, ironically) but getting used to it. Tyrion is a frigging machine in all honesty.

Eumerin wrote:

 Adrassil wrote:
That explains it, then, thanks! Don't think I'll buy it unless it's super cheap lol

It'll probably be 75% off when the Summer Sale arrives.

Is it still worth it? Excuse my cynicism but it feels like a bit of a scam to make people buy TW: Warhammer. Is Mortal Realms good?

Why is it a scam? It requires races that are only found in the base game, and sections of the world that are only found in that same game (though the map itself is slightly different, due to different sizes and shapes for some of the provinces). It's basically saying, "You have both games, so we'll let you play a big campaign that uses the content from both games." I don't see how that's a scam. When the third game is released, it will come with a new version of Mortal Empires that requires you to own all three games (though I would imagine that the current version will still work, as well).

Mortal Realms is an unusual opportunity. In normal game development practices, each game would be completely standalone from the others. Mortal Realms gives you an unusual (though not completely unheard of) opportunity to use the content from both games together in one massive campaign.

If you're not interested in that, then don't buy the first game.

 Adrassil wrote:
Still playing TW: Warhammer 2 and boy can it get frustrating, especially when fighting against Sword Masters of Hoeth (which are my favourite unit in High Elves, ironically) but getting used to it. Tyrion is a frigging machine in all honesty.

I guess it depends what you're fielding. Swordmasters are very much a rock/paper/scissors unit, sending infantry against them is a terrible idea, but decent missiles, cavalry/chariots or monsters/monstrous infantry can roll them like a drunk in an alley.

Is it still worth it? Excuse my cynicism but it feels like a bit of a scam to make people buy TW: Warhammer. Is Mortal Realms good?

The map is a bit squished in places, but personally I vastly prefer it to the Vortex campaign. I played the 'storyline' enough that I don't enjoy it- the only time I play it is the additional factions that don't interact with the vortex shenanigans... and have a reason to be in that part of the world- I much prefer the old world as the focus.

Eumerin wrote:
Why is it a scam? It requires races that are only found in the base game, and sections of the world that are only found in that same game (though the map itself is slightly different, due to different sizes and shapes for some of the provinces). It's basically saying, "You have both games, so we'll let you play a big campaign that uses the content from both games." I don't see how that's a scam. When the third game is released, it will come with a new version of Mortal Empires that requires you to own all three games (though I would imagine that the current version will still work, as well).

Mortal Realms is an unusual opportunity. In normal game development practices, each game would be completely standalone from the others. Mortal Realms gives you an unusual (though not completely unheard of) opportunity to use the content from both games together in one massive campaign.

If you're not interested in that, then don't buy the first game.

Well, the reason I think it could be a scam is because it's seems like a way to make plebs like me who only own 2 to buy 1 as well. It's great if you already owned 1 but if you don't you've got to buy a whole different game and download it because of a 'free' DLC It's quite ingenious if it is. The DLC could work without the 1st one as the assets, races, factions etc could be hidden within the code of the 2nd one. That's what I meant. It might be a bit more preferable if they gave the option to pay for the Mortal Realms DLC by itself at a smaller price for people who don't have 1, but that's just me.

I'll do a bit more research before deciding to buy it as I am interested. I'm just a bit sceptical of things with gaming industry nowadays.



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Voss wrote:

The map is a bit squished in places, but personally I vastly prefer it to the Vortex campaign. I played the 'storyline' enough that I don't enjoy it- the only time I play it is the additional factions that don't interact with the vortex shenanigans... and have a reason to be in that part of the world- I much prefer the old world as the focus.

The Vortex thing is getting on my nerves. I just want to take my time and build up an army at my own pace and it seems like a way to rush the player on with even more notifications.

Where TWW is concerned I'd say just go for the version that has the races you like. If you like dwarfs, orcs, vampires, chaos and brettonia then get the first. If you like lizardmen, high elves, skaven and dark elves get the second. If you enjoy what you play at that point you can think about the dlc or the second/first game since there's so much of it. Anyway it'll keep you entertained if you're into total war games.

I've fallen back into Stellaris. Man it's alot of fun. Currently being the good guy humans working hard on forming a galactic federation with no less then 5 species. Started with the L-gate in my system origin and it was very intresting in the early game. Can't wait to open the gate and see what lies beyond. It costs so much though, like 2500alloys!

Mortal Realms was advertised even before the first yame was released as something that would require both games. Additionally, my understanding is that races that don't appear in the second game (for instance, Wood Elves) have their data pulled from the first game's files for the Mortal Realms campaign.

This actually caused a delay in the Mortal Realms rollout. Norsca was added to the first game when the second game was released (and was a pre-order bonus). But there were some technical issues with Norsca due to some last minute changes that made it temporarily incompatible with Mortal Realms.

 Adrassil wrote:
Still playing TW: Warhammer 2 and boy can it get frustrating, especially when fighting against Sword Masters of Hoeth (which are my favourite unit in High Elves, ironically) but getting used to it. Tyrion is a frigging machine in all honesty.

Eumerin wrote:

 Adrassil wrote:
That explains it, then, thanks! Don't think I'll buy it unless it's super cheap lol

It'll probably be 75% off when the Summer Sale arrives.

Is it still worth it? Excuse my cynicism but it feels like a bit of a scam to make people buy TW: Warhammer. Is Mortal Realms good?

I'm playing a VC Mortal Empires campaign right now. On turn 240 something. I've won the short game and there are like 10 real factions left. I'm trying to invade the High Elf lands since they decided to ally with the remnants of the Bretonnia faction and I bloody hate fighting the High Elves. I win, but I always attack 2v1 or 3v2 and the Phoenix Guard/Swordmasters soak so much damage while their archers eat everything in range. I'm just feeding them T1 Skeletons, but it's still disheartening to lose so many of them every game.

Eumerin wrote:
Mortal Realms was advertised even before the first yame was released as something that would require both games. Additionally, my understanding is that races that don't appear in the second game (for instance, Wood Elves) have their data pulled from the first game's files for the Mortal Realms campaign.

This actually caused a delay in the Mortal Realms rollout. Norsca was added to the first game when the second game was released (and was a pre-order bonus). But there were some technical issues with Norsca due to some last minute changes that made it temporarily incompatible with Mortal Realms.

Norsca was a database incompatibility issue because their teams didn't communicate enough (The TW2 changed the underlying database, while expansion team jury-rigged the old game's database to get various things like the hunts working). It didn't work out, and they had to rebuild Norsca from the ground up. It didn't actually delay the Mortal Realms campaign, just the inclusion of the DLC Norsca factions. At first the non-playable 'Norscans' (including the Alghol & etc) used the stripped down version from before the DLC in both Vortex and Mortal Empires.

But pretty much all the TW1 races do appear in TW2. They aren't playable, but the Empire has the New World Colonies, Brets have the knights, Dwarves are down in the Lustrian and Southland mountains, orcs here and there (though mostly savages), wood elves in that southland oasis, vampires were placeholders in tomb kings locations, assorted beastmen, and chaos warriors for the vortex event armies.

The big thing was the reworked map and locations (many of which have since been reworked as well), and getting TW1 battle maps redone to TW2 standards- there was a big change in lighting and water in particular. That's why the crossover requirement exists, as the races were already in the TW2 game data at launch for all those NPC factions.

Sweet thanks guys! Will make sure to have a look at TW: Warhammer 1 when it's on special next!

 Adrassil wrote:
Sweet thanks guys! Will make sure to have a look at TW: Warhammer 1 when it's on special next!

Humble Bundle currently has it for 75% off as part of a general sale on Total War franchise titles. The sale will run for a few more days.



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I just had a pleasant surprise. When I signed onto Steam, I saw that I had a new inventory item. I was a bit puzzled, so I took a look. It was a trading card for the original Mirrior's Edge, which I own on Steam. Apparently trading cards just got added for it, no doubt part of EA's current shift to provide full support for its games on Valve's platform. And a quick check on the Steam discussion board for the game revealed that everyone who owns it suddenly got a card out of the blue, even if (like myself) they hadn't played it in quite a while.

Neat!

I am bouncing between GTA V and Snowrunner on PC. Got GTA V for free from EPIC and am enjoying playing through the story mode again. I haven't played since the game was new on X360.

Snowrunner is a beautiful disaster right now.

still PC'less so more 360 stuff

Went back to Ridge Racer and got to about 75% of the map, given up again as its got to the bots are just 'cheats' stage, infinate boosts and being glued to my rear bumper, and cant be faffed to burn the required patterns into sussing it out into the grey matter

Moved onto Red Dead 1, rather good for an old game although had to start from fresh as my saves must have been on the rrod box

Satisfactory finally got its Steam release, been looking forward to this one a lot.

Disco Elysium. Probably the most interesting game to come out last year. It’s an... rpg? You play a policeman with amnesia, literally having forgotten everything. The game is centered around the various parts of your brain and body (and on rare occasions clothes) telling you to do things, giving you information and debating. This happens while you interact with other objects and people. You can level up the various parts of your brain/body as well as put levels into thoughts that take time to complete and provide either stats bonuses, effects on interactions or dialog options. The setting is... I think the 50s? There’s a lot about workers unions, political ideologies and a whole lot of other themes. I’m frankly astonished by this game. It’s quite good though there’s immense amounts of reading.

I picked up Dragon Ball Fighters Z in a sale for a tenner and have been having lots of fun with it! The story mode is rubbish but the mechanics and combo system are a joy to play with.
Like all modern fighting games they try to rinse you for DLC characters, but the starting roster is pretty healthy so I can ignore that downside at least!

I grabbed the new Desperados III and took it for a spin. It's developed by Mimimi, the same company that did the excellent Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun. But while that game was set in Shogunate Japan, Desperados III is set in the American Wild West. The game play is 3D isometric, and focuses around using a small group of between 2-5 characters with special abilities to overcome or bypass enemies, and accomplish mission goals. I never played the original Desperados games (which were not developed by Mimimi), so I can't comment on the comparisons (this one's apparently a prequel to the first game; I've heard the first game got a lot of positive attention from players, while the second one wasn't as popular), so I can't compare it to them. Mimimi's games have also been compared to the old Commandos series of games from quite a while back.

The gameplay is mostly familiar to anyone who played Shadow Tactics. Many of the same abilities are present, albeit spread around somewhat differently between the characters. John Cooper, the protagonist, has the same "toss a distracting item" ability that the shinobi has in Shadow Tactics, and also dual wields pistols. Hector, the Mexican big guy, has the same whistle and trap abilities that Yuki has, and is the only one who can face Longcoats in hand to hand combat, just like Mugen is the only one who can fight samurai in the earlier game. Kate O'Hara gets Aiko's ability to disguise herself and chat up guards to distract them, etc... And, of course, the core elements of the game - vision cones, bushes, crouching, etc... all work the same as before.

There are some changes. For instance, some maps allow you to walk around certain areas of the map without getting attacked so long as you don't take aggressive actions. But the basic gameplay elements are the same as in Shadow Tactics. Another important change involves knocked out characters. In Shadow Tactics, if you performed a non-fatal takedown of an enemy, then eventually they would get back up. Desperados III allows some of your characters to tie up knocked out characters (which takes time), and then deal with the bound target just as you would a dead body.

I'm four missions in (not counting the tutorial level), and it's a good game so far.

I finally managed to track down a copy of Ring Fit Adventure for the switch. So far I feel like I'm getting just as good of a workout as I would going to the gym (though not quite as good a workout as I got when I had an actual trainer shouting at me to do better).

Overall, this game is solid and I recommend it to anyone who can find a copy.

Ok so time for another roound of "Hotsauce Bitches about something he actually likes"
So finally got around to playing the last of us.
The biggest thing that is keeping me coming back is the story, Ellie and Joel are great.
However, I feel like im kinda done with these kinda ver linear games that just take you from one place to another. I get why they do that, to tell a story. But its boring to me.

Playing Persona 4 Golden on PC now. Didn't know anything about it going in, other than people raving about how it was one of the bestest PS2 games ever and the only reason why people bought a Vita and how awesome it is that Atlus is releasing it on Steam.
Having fun so far. It's weird, but fun.

Ha yeah Persona 4 here also - so odd after 1st playing on a Vita to now be playing it in 4K on a giant monitor

Was talking to a friend last week about Persona. Seems Atlus was very opposed to the idea of porting games to PC. We both assumed that the Catherine port was a “test drive” for Atlus to see if they have a market on PC, and Persona 4 was later released when the port of Catherine sold well.

Any idea how long Persona 4 is by any chance? Will pick it up either way, but always loved the lengthier or “slow burn” RPGs.

Odd side note, apparently 3 is supposed to be coming out as well?

All of the Persona games are fairly long, with convoluted storylines.

Megaquarium
HElla fun, i cant wait to get the whale shark!!!
I dont know why, but i have been enjpoying creative, simple games a lot more lately....
Am i getting old? Lol

 SkavenLord wrote:
Was talking to a friend last week about Persona. Seems Atlus was very opposed to the idea of porting games to PC. We both assumed that the Catherine port was a “test drive” for Atlus to see if they have a market on PC, and Persona 4 was later released when the port of Catherine sold well.

Any idea how long Persona 4 is by any chance? Will pick it up either way, but always loved the lengthier or “slow burn” RPGs.

Odd side note, apparently 3 is supposed to be coming out as well?

I cannot say how long 4 is as though I played it a ton on the Vita I never finished - I feel like I had a lot of hours in though and still had many to go. Looking online it seems like anywhere from 60 to 80 depending on how completion-ist your play style is. Also there is new game plus mode etc. that a lot of folks sink more hours into. Definitely a slow burn for sure. For $20 on Steam it is a pretty amazing value for the amount of game there is assuming this is a game type you enjoy.....

petrov27 wrote:

 SkavenLord wrote:
Was talking to a friend last week about Persona. Seems Atlus was very opposed to the idea of porting games to PC. We both assumed that the Catherine port was a “test drive” for Atlus to see if they have a market on PC, and Persona 4 was later released when the port of Catherine sold well.

Any idea how long Persona 4 is by any chance? Will pick it up either way, but always loved the lengthier or “slow burn” RPGs.

Odd side note, apparently 3 is supposed to be coming out as well?

I cannot say how long 4 is as though I played it a ton on the Vita I never finished - I feel like I had a lot of hours in though and still had many to go. Looking online it seems like anywhere from 60 to 80 depending on how completion-ist your play style is. Also there is new game plus mode etc. that a lot of folks sink more hours into. Definitely a slow burn for sure. For $20 on Steam it is a pretty amazing value for the amount of game there is assuming this is a game type you enjoy.....

The price is in part because it's an older game, and it's difficult to hide that. The original was released on the PS2(!). The Golden was released on the Vita, and I doubt that the graphics were improved all that much. They likely haven't improved the graphics much - if at all - for the STeam release, so they're almost certainly low quality by modern standards.

But they should be more than good enough to allow anyone to enjoy the game.

If it and 3 do well (and I expect 3 will do well - I've got it on the PSP, and it's a good game), then 5 will almost certainly quickly follow. That leaves the original three games (there were two Persona 2 games). Those are all quite a bit different. They're more straightforward JRPG games without all of the innovations that 3 brought to the series. It's an open question whether Atlus will decide to release any of them on Steam, as well.

Finished Read Dead, excellent game

Pushed RR6 up to 90%

Starting on Gears 3 which I dont remember buying

Maan still on Total War: Warhammer 2 it's addictive as all hell, and I'm on the verge of defeat along with Ulthuan, this game is so much harder that I thought. Naggarond have completed their ritual and is pouring into the heartland from the north and Hag Graef coming from the south led by the Malus Darkblade who instantly respawned after I defeated him at the same level I killed him, the enemy NPCs seem to do this all the time when my characters die I have to get new ones at level 1. So...yeah we're dead lol

Eumerin wrote:

petrov27 wrote:

 SkavenLord wrote:
Was talking to a friend last week about Persona. Seems Atlus was very opposed to the idea of porting games to PC. We both assumed that the Catherine port was a “test drive” for Atlus to see if they have a market on PC, and Persona 4 was later released when the port of Catherine sold well.

Any idea how long Persona 4 is by any chance? Will pick it up either way, but always loved the lengthier or “slow burn” RPGs.

Odd side note, apparently 3 is supposed to be coming out as well?

I cannot say how long 4 is as though I played it a ton on the Vita I never finished - I feel like I had a lot of hours in though and still had many to go. Looking online it seems like anywhere from 60 to 80 depending on how completion-ist your play style is. Also there is new game plus mode etc. that a lot of folks sink more hours into. Definitely a slow burn for sure. For $20 on Steam it is a pretty amazing value for the amount of game there is assuming this is a game type you enjoy.....

The price is in part because it's an older game, and it's difficult to hide that. The original was released on the PS2(!). The Golden was released on the Vita, and I doubt that the graphics were improved all that much. They likely haven't improved the graphics much - if at all - for the STeam release, so they're almost certainly low quality by modern standards.

But they should be more than good enough to allow anyone to enjoy the game.

If it and 3 do well (and I expect 3 will do well - I've got it on the PSP, and it's a good game), then 5 will almost certainly quickly follow. That leaves the original three games (there were two Persona 2 games). Those are all quite a bit different. They're more straightforward JRPG games without all of the innovations that 3 brought to the series. It's an open question whether Atlus will decide to release any of them on Steam, as well.

Thanks for the answers! Rather surprised that it was originally on the PS2, especially since it was released back in 2008.

Tried out Stadia. On the desktop its amazing. Playing a normally 20Gb download game instantly is nice.

Mobile experience pretty much requires a controller and not all controllers work. Looks like there's some work to be done there. Weirdly, most android specific controllers dont seem to work, but any 2nd gen Xbox one controller does (via bluetooth).

No pixelatization or weird lag spots so far like I saw with the other streaming game providers, but the store is almost entirely AAA action games of one kind or the other. Would have liked a couple turn based games