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55mm bases huh? Wonder if litko or similar make clear acrylics in that size.

Alkasyn wrote:http://infinitythegame.com/foro/index.php?/topic/10145-peanas-nueva-normativa-oficial/

News regarding bases>

The following models change from 40mm to 55m bases:

Yaoxie
Yáopú Pangguling
Kum, Pentesilea, Aragotos, Asuka Kisaragi
Traktor Mul
Mulebots
Armbots: Bulleteer
Armbots: Peacemaker
Kameel
Salyut Zonds
Tsyklon Sputnik
Lunokhod Sputnik
Probots
All TAGs except Maghriba, Gecko and Sphinx

...facists! I suffer all the more!

Alpharius wrote:Smart-Ass Alert!

Nomads
PanO
Yu Jing
Combined Army
Haqqislam
Ariadna
Tohaa
Aleph

The poor sectorials will just have to bum a ride on their Parent's Dropship!

And I had been so good about saving money. I WAS DOING SO WELL.

Mulebot, Peacemaker and Bulleteer on 55mm? I am not amused...

they've already clarified we *don't* have to rebase our existing collection - the 40mm's will stay ITS legal on those.

energongoodie wrote:
I asked what the factions would be. He wouldn't tell me but I had a guess anyway. I guessed Pan-O, Yu-Jing and Aleph. He said I got 2 out of 3. Which ain't bad.
I asked about rules and he would only smile and say that "Corvus Belli are intending to move the game on." Now I'm not saying that we are about to get a load of vehicle rules, but I just got the sense that something is gonna happen that is a bit of a shake up. I just don't know what. The guy was excited though

Those pure expeculations collide with what Corvus Belli has been saying in many events about vehicles for the last 2 years.
They tested a first alpha version, it did'nt work for them, they leave those rules aside. They do not want Vehicles to behave like TAGs in the game. So no vehicles for Infinity.
Vehicles are bikes. Vehicles are dropships. That stuff alreayd exists in Infinity.

I'll be quite surprised if big Tanks or Trucks suddenly appear in the Infinity rules. I think that we are NOT going to see that this year or even next year.

55mm is kind of odd, I wish they'd gone with 50!

Or 60 maybe? I just hope I can find clear acrylics at that size. And I *just* bent the legs on my Lunokhod to fit a 40mm too.

 BobbaFett wrote:

energongoodie wrote:
I asked what the factions would be. He wouldn't tell me but I had a guess anyway. I guessed Pan-O, Yu-Jing and Aleph. He said I got 2 out of 3. Which ain't bad.
I asked about rules and he would only smile and say that "Corvus Belli are intending to move the game on." Now I'm not saying that we are about to get a load of vehicle rules, but I just got the sense that something is gonna happen that is a bit of a shake up. I just don't know what. The guy was excited though

Those pure expeculations collide with what Corvus Belli has been saying in many events about vehicles for the last 2 years.
They tested a first alpha version, it did'nt work for them, they leave those rules aside. They do not want Vehicles to behave like TAGs in the game. So no vehicles for Infinity.
Vehicles are bikes. Vehicles are dropships. That stuff alreayd exists in Infinity.

I'll be quite surprised if big Tanks or Trucks suddenly appear in the Infinity rules. I think that we are NOT going to see that this year or even next year.

I wonder though if we might see Dropships used as some objective type element, or as part of scenarios? I don't for one moment think we are going to see some mega-powerful flier dropping pie-plate templates and practically auto-killing the units they hit - I would expect something for more measured and subtle.

They're dropships used for SpecOps in civilian areas, not bombercraft used for leveling battlefields.

Similar to how we have Mechanized Deployment as a rare yet abstract special rule in the game, the dropships could be used as a sort of moving or placed terrain. They'd also be a great scenario objective.

With regards to them being active pieces on the table, they don't have to behave like TAGs.

For example, once 'dropped', they could be stationary or otherwise quite slow, but equipped with very basic weaponry. Instead of directly firing, they could place a sort of suppression marker, that works like Suppression Fire but instead of being a line of suppression, this being a circular zone of suppression. This would give them more of an area denial role than a direct offensive role.

There's ways to make them an active model without making them dominate the board just because they're a dropship.

That said, I'd prefer to see them limited to scenarios. I loved the concept behind the Kill the Tank scenario. Similar type objectives using dropships would be great - especially if they were tailored to each faction. For example, a Haqqislam scenario where you need to get a civilian to a drop ship. Maybe give Odalisques a bonus if they are the ones that synchronise with them to get them to the dropship.

 -Loki- wrote:
With regards to them being active pieces on the table, they don't have to behave like TAGs.

For example, once 'dropped', they could be stationary or otherwise quite slow, but equipped with very basic weaponry. Instead of directly firing, they could place a sort of suppression marker, that works like Suppression Fire but instead of being a line of suppression, this being a circular zone of suppression. This would give them more of an area denial role than a direct offensive role.

There's ways to make them an active model without making them dominate the board just because they're a dropship.

While "it could be done" sounds great... but this game seems so delicate.... just by allowing big pieces of terrain fall from the sky wherever the players wants, blocking line of fire, that completely changes the whole basic mechanics of the current ITS missions beign played right now.

I'll just simply use dropships to cut line of fire, making an expensive enemy sniper completely unuseful. It touches the delicate balance of this game.

 -Loki- wrote:
With regards to them being active pieces on the table, they don't have to behave like TAGs.

For example, once 'dropped', they could be stationary or otherwise quite slow, but equipped with very basic weaponry. Instead of directly firing, they could place a sort of suppression marker, that works like Suppression Fire but instead of being a line of suppression, this being a circular zone of suppression. This would give them more of an area denial role than a direct offensive role.

There's ways to make them an active model without making them dominate the board just because they're a dropship.

Yeah thats pretty much exactly how I think they will work, and if the new book contains rules for any other vehicles as part of the new campaign system or as standalone rules for use in all games, I expect they will work that way too. An abstraction of it's primary purpose instead of a representation of everything it could do.

Edit: But more likely it will serve as a mobile spawning point for reserves, where you might only be able to disembark passengers at the start of each turn at it's current location and if it gets destroyed, everyone still on board is KIA

 GrimDork wrote:
Or 60 maybe? I just hope I can find clear acrylics at that size. And I *just* bent the legs on my Lunokhod to fit a 40mm too.

I'm sure some of the clear acrylic base makers will add 55mm now that Infinity needs them, although you may need to wait a bit (

 BobbaFett wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:
With regards to them being active pieces on the table, they don't have to behave like TAGs.

For example, once 'dropped', they could be stationary or otherwise quite slow, but equipped with very basic weaponry. Instead of directly firing, they could place a sort of suppression marker, that works like Suppression Fire but instead of being a line of suppression, this being a circular zone of suppression. This would give them more of an area denial role than a direct offensive role.

There's ways to make them an active model without making them dominate the board just because they're a dropship.

While "it could be done" sounds great... but this game seems so delicate.... just by allowing big pieces of terrain fall from the sky wherever the players wants, blocking line of fire, that completely changes the whole basic mechanics of the current ITS missions beign played right now.

I can't see how they have to block LoS. They're dropships. They don't have to land. They can drop, and the unit inside deploys by chute or rope or whatever sci fi convention you want to throw in. After that, they'd still be flying, so they wouldn't be blocking LoS unless you're on a pretty tall building. That is assuming they are on something like a flying base.

 -Loki- wrote:
I can't see how they have to block LoS. They're dropships. They don't have to land. They can drop, and the unit inside deploys by chute or rope or whatever sci fi convention you want to throw in. After that, they'd still be flying, so they wouldn't be blocking LoS unless you're on a pretty tall building. That is assuming they are on something like a flying base.

Then.... the dropships wont be on the table.... then why bother buying one of those dropships?
I'm not trying to be disrespectful. Don't get me wrong.

Oh, what if the new campaign rules feature games where each mission features two tables with objectives that must be complete on both.. and with each force split between the two tables, the dropship is the only way to move troops between them..

What sort of monster would choose to not buy a dropship?

 BobbaFett wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:
I can't see how they have to block LoS. They're dropships. They don't have to land. They can drop, and the unit inside deploys by chute or rope or whatever sci fi convention you want to throw in. After that, they'd still be flying, so they wouldn't be blocking LoS unless you're on a pretty tall building. That is assuming they are on something like a flying base.

Then.... the dropships wont be on the table.... then why bother buying one of those dropships?
I'm not trying to be disrespectful. Don't get me wrong.

When did I say they won't be on the table? They're be on a base with a clear stick that raises them above the ground. A flying base. So you wouldn't be blocking LoS, but like I mentioned earlier, may have other abilities.

I'm not trying to be disrespectful either - but I don't see why people keep assuming the sky is falling with the mere mention of CB adding anything to Infinity. Yes, it's a game with delicate balance. Guess who achieved that balance? Corvus Belli. Guess who plays their own game in a competitive setting very regularly? Corvus Belli. Some of their studio members tour tournaments and take part more than the Foo Fighters tour. Look at the Bolts - they didn't release their mine launcher profile because they didn't want to upset ITS 2014, by releasing a profile that likely requires counters that are in the same book.

They know their game. They know the games balance, because they achieved it and play the game. They know the balance they achieved is a big reason why people play this game. People shouldn't be afraid of them breaking the balance by adding something new. They - demonstrably - know what they are doing. If they say they want to 'move forward with the rules' and are showing off Dropships, the logical conclusion should be, after looking at how lovingly they treat the game and its balance, that they've taken a very considered approach to how they want to do it without breaking the games balance.

 plastictrees wrote:
What sort of monster would choose to not buy a dropship?

The sort who would scratch-build his own. But then there may be conversion possibilities too...

OTOH, Antenocitis make excellent stuff, so I for one really want to see these dropships. And the interior scatter mentioned on the FB page... although I got the impression it might only be for fantasy based stuff... interior detailing it said.

Um, there's already rules amd stats for dropships in the main rulebook. Why is this an issue?

Besides, Hellcats gotta jump out of something, right? And just what are those Halqa deploying from? I can't be the only person who thinks it would be fun to actually utilize those vehicles.

 Bolognesus wrote:
they've already clarified we *don't* have to rebase our existing collection - the 40mm's will stay ITS legal on those.

I'm more concerned how Mules will look on 55mm. They fit perfectly on 40mm. I suppose you could make room or remove extensions for the special REM.

-Loki- wrote:Look at the Bolts - they didn't release their mine launcher profile because they didn't want to upset ITS 2014, by releasing a profile that likely requires counters that are in the same book.

They were awfully confidant about ITS 2014, something that persists to be a rather controversial issue. My perception also lead me to believe that overall people prefer to play YAMS, something I personally do not consider to be very fun and very monotone, yet concede that it is more balanced. PanO is consequently stuck with a second (third, if you count Bolt/special weapon box) release that effectively does nothing to the army, however we are paying darn pretty schillings for units that simply don't do anything. We're left with, "it will make sense in the future".

Simply put it, I am loosing faith in Corvus Belli. They are eager to spike certain areas, while leaving others dry. Perhaps they know more rabid fanboys will relish the chance to defend them.

I am not certain I follow your logic, care to elaborate?



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On another note

Those paints are remarkably poor for official Infinity ones (not actually bad if you see what I mean)

have they replaced their studio painter?

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Those paints are remarkably poor for official Infinity ones (not actually bad if you see what I mean)

have they replaced their studio painter?

No. He has an 'apprentice" for all intents and purposes, who is copying Angel's paintjobs and techniques but still has his own style.

I think they look gorgeous. That Clipsos is fantastic.

They have a trainee painter now.

I agree wrt MULs; complaining we don't get enough fancy toys however - naah. We're perfectly competitive (unless you want to try playjng ASA or MO in ITS but that's not new) and a few 'delayed effect' releases won't change that.

Another Clipsos, nice!

I'm wondering if there's anything big (like a box set) coming for Tohaa this year, or all blisters from now on... have to plan out a commission job, as I have a friend painting mine

There's nothing left for Tohaa that would take a box, so unless we get an early release from the next book Tohaa only have a few blisters left to release.

Okay makes sense. Is it known when the next book is coming?

 -Loki- wrote:
There's nothing left for Tohaa that would take a box, so unless we get an early release from the next book Tohaa only have a few blisters left to release.

Sakiel have enough to release to justify a box. There are none of the "Combi Rifle" profiles as models, just Spitfire(blister) and Viral Combi Rifle(starter box exclusive).


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 RiTides wrote:
Okay makes sense. Is it known when the next book is coming?

Next year.

The paint on the Druze's armor looks really chunky. Might just be the extreme colse-up but I don't think I've ever found anything to be critical of on other CB minis.