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I hate to tell you this mate but I meant the coffee cup holding arm

Thats why I said holding a megaphone or like Vik said a telescope

Although that arm looks food but the pose seams a bit unbalanced, sorry for the confusion on that I feel quite bad for sending you in the wrong direction

 lone dirty dog wrote:
I hate to tell you this mate but I meant the coffee cup holding arm

Thats why I said holding a megaphone or like Vik said a telescope

Although that arm looks food but the pose seams a bit unbalanced, sorry for the confusion on that I feel quite bad for sending you in the wrong direction

I trusted you! How could you let me down like that, LDD?

I ended up choosing that arm because I liked it the best, so don't beat yourself up too much. I know what you mean about being unbalanced, though. I'm hoping that the shoulder armor will help. What do you think?

Maybe I'll mock up something with the other arm, just to see.

In the end, he's not glued in, so it would be easy to change.

the pose of that arm and the sleave is looking good... tho the shouler of that arm still needs a certain something...

like this :



and the armored arm still lacks those cables

 Rawson wrote:

 lone dirty dog wrote:
I hate to tell you this mate but I meant the coffee cup holding arm

Thats why I said holding a megaphone or like Vik said a telescope

Although that arm looks food but the pose seams a bit unbalanced, sorry for the confusion on that I feel quite bad for sending you in the wrong direction

I trusted you! How could you let me down like that, LDD?

I ended up choosing that arm because I liked it the best, so don't beat yourself up too much. I know what you mean about being unbalanced, though. I'm hoping that the shoulder armor will help. What do you think?

Maybe I'll mock up something with the other arm, just to see.

In the end, he's not glued in, so it would be easy to change.

Dont worry Rawson I am beating my self now with a large stick Dam that hurt …….

But I have faith in you to achieve the desired look although I understand what Vik is getting at by the pic he posted I myself would go with more a corresponding shoulder pad.

Something more like the armour worn on the opposite arm, but only a shoulder pad maybe with a crest or V on it .

I have to ask the Coffee break arm where is it that from I have an idea for something

you could look for dwarven arms... i own one that holds a small beer mug...

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
you could look for dwarven arms... i own one that holds a small beer mug...

Cheers Vik but tried that one before and the proportions are way of the one Rawson used looks in scale, I want to recreate a picture of a British tanker drinking his mug of tea but in miniature form

ah...i see.... then we have to search some more...

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
ah...i see.... then we have to search some more...

Keep looking ……… do you think we are the only two left on Dakka

well... i am about to go to sleep too^^ so you´ll be some kind of highlander then

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
well... i am about to go to sleep too^^ so you´ll be some kind of highlander then

Dam I am the One more Jet Li style Good night mate

that would meen you slay hundreds of alternate versions of yours? way to go^^

cheeeriooo!

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
that would meen you slay hundreds of alternate versions of yours? way to go^^

cheeeriooo!

I kick ass even my own night

Sorry to spoil your party guys.
Back on topic, this is some amazing work man.

Viktor von Domm wrote:the pose of that arm and the sleave is looking good... tho the shouler of that arm still needs a certain something...

like this :



and the armored arm still lacks those cables

Now that would be fancy! It doesn't really fit the style of the rest of the army though, unfortunately.
What would the cables be powering? It's not a PF he has down there...

lone dirty dog wrote:

 Rawson wrote:

 lone dirty dog wrote:
I hate to tell you this mate but I meant the coffee cup holding arm

Thats why I said holding a megaphone or like Vik said a telescope

Although that arm looks food but the pose seams a bit unbalanced, sorry for the confusion on that I feel quite bad for sending you in the wrong direction

I trusted you! How could you let me down like that, LDD?

I ended up choosing that arm because I liked it the best, so don't beat yourself up too much. I know what you mean about being unbalanced, though. I'm hoping that the shoulder armor will help. What do you think?

Maybe I'll mock up something with the other arm, just to see.

In the end, he's not glued in, so it would be easy to change.

Dont worry Rawson I am beating my self now with a large stick Dam that hurt …….

But I have faith in you to achieve the desired look although I understand what Vik is getting at by the pic he posted I myself would go with more a corresponding shoulder pad.

Something more like the armour worn on the opposite arm, but only a shoulder pad maybe with a crest or V on it .

I have to ask the Coffee break arm where is it that from I have an idea for something

I tend to agree with you, LDD. I'm thinking single plate of armor, and I like the crest idea. We'll see how that goes.
I think that arm is a standard IG sentinel pilot arm.

BTW, have you lost weight? You're looking rail thin these days...

lone dirty dog wrote:do you think we are the only two left on Dakka

lol

Freytag93 wrote:Sorry to spoil your party guys.
Back on topic, this is some amazing work man.

Though it was nice to have a little banter on my thread again, it's been a while
Thanks Freytag! Let me know if you have any ideas

Last night I got to work a bit (plus an extra hour for going back to normal time )

Got the Hydra riveted, like a good little =]_,=er


And mocked up the vent for the triple capacitor

Not even close to the original, but I'm not shooting for a copy where people say "Wow, you got a FW Valdor". I think it looks like a good enough vent


CC always appreciated

Thanks for looking!
Rawson

I think the crest will look great maybe incorporating the Vostroyans V and something representing a tank unit insignia but what you are on your own with that

Yes, a bit thin these days no carb diet ……… I used to only eat potatoes No Halloween is on its way so it was fitting , plus the t-shirt says Dirty Dog on it

The rivets on the hydra is tops truly worthy of a riveter

The vent is looking brilliant mate plus with a scratch build you don't want and exact replica, if you did you would just buy a FW one

Have you got a picture of the vent set against the tank track side to get an idea of the overall look

Banter is always available on league threads, it's a requirement .

i am totally envious about your riveting... i need to find some bare metal soon to work some riveting wonders on it myself... so baaaad!!!!

as for the armored arm issue... well i know it is currently no PF... but it should be... it should be... otherwise i fear it doesn´t make sense to have one armored arm and one soft arm... stands to reason... even IF you add the armored shoulderpad... then it still doesn´t make sense to me... add a lil technical gitmo on his back and you have all things wrapped up nicley...

oh and that vent... very good looking... and even better than the real thing if you ask me... as the lil side gizmo makes it so much more selling the idea!!!

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
i am totally envious about your riveting... i need to find some bare metal soon to work some riveting wonders on it myself... so baaaad!!!!

as for the armored arm issue... well i know it is currently no PF... but it should be... it should be... otherwise i fear it doesn´t make sense to have one armored arm and one soft arm... stands to reason... even IF you add the armored shoulderpad... then it still doesn´t make sense to me... add a lil technical gitmo on his back and you have all things wrapped up nicley...

oh and that vent... very good looking... and even better than the real thing if you ask me... as the lil side gizmo makes it so much more selling the idea!!!

Vik don't forget these are Vostroyan's a very traditional looking army, so the armoured look would be correct.

Look at the general troops they all wear armour of some kind for style and look, I think on this occasion you are wrong mate maybe got your wires crossed pun intended

hurhurhur.... the armor i have no issues with... no way^^ but if you have a cuirass and an armored arm... then where is the sense in onearmed armor? either both... or find a reason for the one plated arm...ergo...powerfist... a bit medival... but i think it would look great...

and my wires are always crossed

I love the use of that Empire Captain I do think you need some armor on the unarmored arm just to give the model some balance.

as vik said above the armor is somewhat out of place, a powerfist or such could add to it, but to be honest I have always found most of 40k fluff and characters to be out of place, why would someone run at you with a hammer when they could shoot you from a spacestation? so might as well have some armored generals in tanks, adds to the gothic look. I like it.

my two cents.

@ Vik and Sageheart you are looking at this the wrong way, yes in reality he should be in full armour however this is not reality this is 40k the theatrical if you like.
I mean after all why wear armour when you are inside a tank how much armour do you need really, it is all for show symbolic of past tradition.
Also why the hell would he need a power fist when he is in a tank whats he going to do smash up his own tank up

Plus as Rawson mentioned he was going to add a shoulder pad, this will help pull the arm in line with the rest of the armour.

lone dirty dog wrote:I think the crest will look great maybe incorporating the Vostroyans V and something representing a tank unit insignia but what you are on your own with that

The rivets on the hydra is tops truly worthy of a riveter

The vent is looking brilliant mate plus with a scratch build you don't want and exact replica, if you did you would just buy a FW one

Have you got a picture of the vent set against the tank track side to get an idea of the overall look

Hmm, tank unit insignia. While intriguing, the 104th is an armored division, would the tank units have their own insignia?
Thanks for the complimets, I'm glad you like them!
I'll see if I can get that pic with the triple capacitor on the side of the Valdor

Viktor von Domm wrote:i am totally envious about your riveting... i need to find some bare metal soon to work some riveting wonders on it myself... so baaaad!!!!

oh and that vent... very good looking... and even better than the real thing if you ask me... as the lil side gizmo makes it so much more selling the idea!!!

Thanks for the encoragement on the rivets and vents, Vik. I was due for a bit of =]_,= work myself

Viktor von Domm wrote:as for the armored arm issue... well i know it is currently no PF... but it should be... it should be... otherwise i fear it doesn´t make sense to have one armored arm and one soft arm... stands to reason... even IF you add the armored shoulderpad... then it still doesn´t make sense to me... add a lil technical gitmo on his back and you have all things wrapped up nicley...

lone dirty dog wrote:
Vik don't forget these are Vostroyan's a very traditional looking army, so the armoured look would be correct.

Look at the general troops they all wear armour of some kind for style and look, I think on this occasion you are wrong mate maybe got your wires crossed pun intended

Viktor von Domm wrote:hurhurhur.... the armor i have no issues with... no way^^ but if you have a cuirass and an armored arm... then where is the sense in onearmed armor? either both... or find a reason for the one plated arm...ergo...powerfist... a bit medival... but i think it would look great...

Sageheart wrote:I love the use of that Empire Captain I do think you need some armor on the unarmored arm just to give the model some balance.

as vik said above the armor is somewhat out of place, a powerfist or such could add to it, but to be honest I have always found most of 40k fluff and characters to be out of place, why would someone run at you with a hammer when they could shoot you from a spacestation? so might as well have some armored generals in tanks, adds to the gothic look. I like it.

lone dirty dog wrote:@ Vik and Sageheart you are looking at this the wrong way, yes in reality he should be in full armour however this is not reality this is 40k the theatrical if you like.
I mean after all why wear armour when you are inside a tank how much armour do you need really, it is all for show symbolic of past tradition.
Also why the hell would he need a power fist when he is in a tank whats he going to do smash up his own tank up

Plus as Rawson mentioned he was going to add a shoulder pad, this will help pull the arm in line with the rest of the armour.

We have quite the debate roaring here Let me start by thanking eveyone for taking the time to give great feedback on my projects. That being said, balancing reality in a fictional world (or universe for that matter) is always a bit tricky. In this case, I agree with all parties to some extent. It isn't so useful to wear armor inside a tank: anything that can get through the armor of a tank isn't going to be stopped by that bit of whatever you strapped to your chest (and from what I understand about the inside of tanks, their really isn't room to be armored anyways ). Also, unless one uses a shield, having asymetrical armor doesn't really make sense either, unless you stand with only your left side facing the enemy. However, I like LDD's description: 40k the theatrical (hey, at least it wasn't "the musical" ) The whole 40k universe is a little OTT, and I very much ascribe to the "Rule of Cool".

So, in the end, I think I shall armor up the right side of my tanker a bit, and see where that gets us. I think it quite fits with the Vostroyan imagery and will look cool (I hope ) Plus, I can't afford to got too far down the road of what makes the most sense at this point, for I would quickly find myself needing to rebuild my entire army

Thanks for all of the comments, gents!
Rawson

hehe^^ you will make it awesome...period

See told you so stick with me Rawson rule of cool always prevails although don't over armour the arm otherwise Vik will think he is always right

Viktor von Domm wrote:hehe^^ you will make it awesome...period

Thanks for the vote of confidence

lone dirty dog wrote:See told you so stick with me Rawson rule of cool always prevails although don't over armour the arm otherwise Vik will think he is always right

In the end, figure I spend WAY more time modeling than playing, so I should make something that looks cool and figure out the other problems later And we certainly don't want Vik thinking that, do we

No way

Maybe I should give him a bare Catachan arm on that side, just to be safe

 Rawson wrote:
Maybe I should give him a bare Catachan arm on that side, just to be safe

No never use them …………. not even to stop Vik on his crusade to become the Righteous One

Very cool tank commander conversion. Hope to see paint on him one day

lone dirty dog wrote:

 Rawson wrote:
Maybe I should give him a bare Catachan arm on that side, just to be safe

No never use them …………. not even to stop Vik on his crusade to become the Righteous One

Schmacker10 wrote:Very cool tank commander conversion. Hope to see paint on him one day

Thanks, Schmacker! So do I

Really nice conversion on the tank commander. When I first saw that you ordered it I was sceptical. I thought it looked a little too fantasy.... but he has really come together!

I also enjoyed that little piece of fluff on the commissars. Got anything more about the 104th Vostroyan mechanized in the works??