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haha I love Gintama! It's one of those shows that are meant to be watched with friends though. I can't just watch it by myself and start laughing hysterically in my room
So The Pilot's Love Song basically lost me as a viewer today on the strength, or rather the weakness of it's aerial combat. The "bad guys" showed some nice tactics over the last two episodes, even if it's pilots were a bit eagerly suicidal imho, but when they finally pulled off the reveal...
Spoiler:
I'm sorry those gakky jalopies the "good guys" fly are VTOL garbage that can't even begin to maneuver safely or effectively. Against the "sorta Bf109s" the "sorta Germans" (they even had "sorta" MP40s for their infantry) they should have been decimated in seconds. Their entire force, not just the trainees. Also who the feth thought it was a bright idea to send the trainees up with RIFLES!? Sure I get it, honorable turret based warfare from the back seater is how you guys do air to air, and a bolt action rifle's just fine to train that type of (incredibly stupid) gunnery with, but the feth's a clearly small caliber, short rifle, going to do against a melon-fething Bf109!? gak besides plot armor and the bullets apparently being magic and causing the enemy fighters to spontaneously combust when they came within a couple YARDS of hitting the mark there's just no reasonable explanation. We had fething machine guns on slow moving biplanes by the end of WW1 because a rifle or hand gun, which is what we started with for air to air combat besides rude gestures and foul language, were an absolute pig to hit a fast moving (fast moving by WW1 standards, which when you compare to a WW2 fighter like the Spitfire, Bf109, or P-51, or goddess forbid the Me262, is like you're standing still or floating along in a weather balloon) target.
I'm still gonna power through the remaining eps at some point just in the name of getting my mushy romance fix, but feth this anime and who ever came up with it's combat design. There's suspension of disbelief and then there's this bs.
I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
KalashnikovMarine wrote: So The Pilot's Love Song basically lost me as a viewer today on the strength, or rather the weakness of it's aerial combat. The "bad guys" showed some nice tactics over the last two episodes, even if it's pilots were a bit eagerly suicidal imho, but when they finally pulled off the reveal...
Spoiler:
I'm sorry those gakky jalopies the "good guys" fly are VTOL garbage that can't even begin to maneuver safely or effectively. Against the "sorta Bf109s" the "sorta Germans" (they even had "sorta" MP40s for their infantry) they should have been decimated in seconds. Their entire force, not just the trainees. Also who the feth thought it was a bright idea to send the trainees up with RIFLES!? Sure I get it, honorable turret based warfare from the back seater is how you guys do air to air, and a bolt action rifle's just fine to train that type of (incredibly stupid) gunnery with, but the feth's a clearly small caliber, short rifle, going to do against a melon-fething Bf109!? gak besides plot armor and the bullets apparently being magic and causing the enemy fighters to spontaneously combust when they came within a couple YARDS of hitting the mark there's just no reasonable explanation. We had fething machine guns on slow moving biplanes by the end of WW1 because a rifle or hand gun, which is what we started with for air to air combat besides rude gestures and foul language, were an absolute pig to hit a fast moving (fast moving by WW1 standards, which when you compare to a WW2 fighter like the Spitfire, Bf109, or P-51, or goddess forbid the Me262, is like you're standing still or floating along in a weather balloon) target.
I'm still gonna power through the remaining eps at some point just in the name of getting my mushy romance fix, but feth this anime and who ever came up with it's combat design. There's suspension of disbelief and then there's this bs.
I havn't seen the show, but your description paints a pretty vivid picture, at least for me. Sounds a little odd, but I am usually willing to overlook silly "mistakes" I guess you could say? Mistakes like that in anime, if the rest of the show is entertaining and compelling enough. Side note, I like how it edited your text to say melon-fething. Your description and arguments were great and everything, but that was the best part of reading that lol
KalashnikovMarine wrote: So The Pilot's Love Song basically lost me as a viewer today on the strength, or rather the weakness of it's aerial combat. The "bad guys" showed some nice tactics over the last two episodes, even if it's pilots were a bit eagerly suicidal imho, but when they finally pulled off the reveal...
Spoiler:
I'm sorry those gakky jalopies the "good guys" fly are VTOL garbage that can't even begin to maneuver safely or effectively. Against the "sorta Bf109s" the "sorta Germans" (they even had "sorta" MP40s for their infantry) they should have been decimated in seconds. Their entire force, not just the trainees. Also who the feth thought it was a bright idea to send the trainees up with RIFLES!? Sure I get it, honorable turret based warfare from the back seater is how you guys do air to air, and a bolt action rifle's just fine to train that type of (incredibly stupid) gunnery with, but the feth's a clearly small caliber, short rifle, going to do against a melon-fething Bf109!? gak besides plot armor and the bullets apparently being magic and causing the enemy fighters to spontaneously combust when they came within a couple YARDS of hitting the mark there's just no reasonable explanation. We had fething machine guns on slow moving biplanes by the end of WW1 because a rifle or hand gun, which is what we started with for air to air combat besides rude gestures and foul language, were an absolute pig to hit a fast moving (fast moving by WW1 standards, which when you compare to a WW2 fighter like the Spitfire, Bf109, or P-51, or goddess forbid the Me262, is like you're standing still or floating along in a weather balloon) target.
I'm still gonna power through the remaining eps at some point just in the name of getting my mushy romance fix, but feth this anime and who ever came up with it's combat design. There's suspension of disbelief and then there's this bs.
I refuse to watch GuP for the exact same reason. Well, that and the entire idea of that series offends me.
I havn't seen the show, but your description paints a pretty vivid picture, at least for me. Sounds a little odd, but I am usually willing to overlook silly "mistakes" I guess you could say? Mistakes like that in anime, if the rest of the show is entertaining and compelling enough. Side note, I like how it edited your text to say melon-fething. Your description and arguments were great and everything, but that was the best part of reading that lol
Sure, the silly or little mistakes are what come down to your suspension of disbelief. Maybe it's because I'm an aviator, maybe it's because I've spent too much time watching aerial combat vids and gun camera footage but this is a few steps too far in the wrong direction for me for what is a central tenant of the show.
@Soladrin, see I can forgive GuP.
1. Tank warfare is a tradtional martial art for women.
Okay it's odd but compared to magical girls it's down right normal.
2. High School Senshado teams compete with each other regularly, and with the exception of the occasional field or navigational hazard no one gets hurt.
Well if I'm letting the first one slide, what's a little handwavium? The universe is internally consistent and it's fun enough to not need too much of a stretch mentally.
I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
I've heard the original version of BBgC was a ton better- unfortunately, it's also a ton rarer. The Tokyo 2040 was a remake with 'better' graphics, but supposedly much worse pacing and acting.
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Yeah, I'm hyped alright, but this is the awesome thing:
Spoiler:
Nonon, seriously, stop being awesome!
"Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth! These are the truths of this world! Surrender to these truths, you pigs in human clothing!" - Satsuki Kiryuin, Kill la Kill
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Yeah, I'm hyped alright, but this is the awesome thing:
Spoiler:
Nonon, seriously, stop being awesome!
If Nonon doesn't stop, then she is going to break my awesometer. That and she might jump straight up to waifu status (hey guys, remember that time we talked about waifus).
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KalashnikovMarine wrote: I just watched a battleship falling in love with a man.... yep. That's enough anime for the day.
Still 22 hours till the Kill l a kill action arrives. I guess I just have to watch something else in the meantime. It looks like i have to catch up on witchcraft works, nobonagun and the pilots love story, inari kon kon and d-frag first anyway. Oh my. That's more than lions, tigers and bears.
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I think I do like Nobunagun better, actually. Kill la kill is crazy and all, but it's generic Anime crazy. Overly-powerful student government, built-in fanservice, nods to Koh and Kabuki theatre, use of Kendo as a weaponized sport, main character has a 'katana', overblown rivalry, quirky best friend, shadowy group of 'elites' that must be defeated to succeed, goal is a simple question that really shouldn't require a gauntlet of zany combats to get answers to...
All the old tropes.
Nobunagun, though it also is chock full of tropes, breaks in some key ways- the main character isn't "Generic Anime Protagonist #11", but is rather a geeky military kid. The show isn't about "Making friends makes you more powerful!" but, allowing for the base concept being Sci-Fi/Fantasy, is a solid take on the trials of war and how they change people drafted into service. The soundtrack is Metal instead of "Generic Anime Orchestrals #13", I'm about 5 or 6 episodes in and the protagonist is still struggling to master their abilities- no "struggles for 2 episodes then master sniper" dross here.
Also, crunchyroll being fully free (don't care 'bout no commercials, though I wish they didn't show the same one twice in a row so often) is rather nice- means I can finally catch up on all the esoteric anime that I've wanted to watch.
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Anvildude wrote: I think I do like Nobunagun better, actually. Kill la kill is crazy and all, but it's generic Anime crazy. Overly-powerful student government, built-in fanservice, nods to Koh and Kabuki theatre, use of Kendo as a weaponized sport, main character has a 'katana', overblown rivalry, quirky best friend, shadowy group of 'elites' that must be defeated to succeed, goal is a simple question that really shouldn't require a gauntlet of zany combats to get answers to...
All the old tropes.
Nobunagun, though it also is chock full of tropes, breaks in some key ways- the main character isn't "Generic Anime Protagonist #11", but is rather a geeky military kid. The show isn't about "Making friends makes you more powerful!" but, allowing for the base concept being Sci-Fi/Fantasy, is a solid take on the trials of war and how they change people drafted into service. The soundtrack is Metal instead of "Generic Anime Orchestrals #13", I'm about 5 or 6 episodes in and the protagonist is still struggling to master their abilities- no "struggles for 2 episodes then master sniper" dross here.
Also, crunchyroll being fully free (don't care 'bout no commercials, though I wish they didn't show the same one twice in a row so often) is rather nice- means I can finally catch up on all the esoteric anime that I've wanted to watch.
Kind of agree and I do like nobunagun better too, but.. it's not by much, they both just fall in the same space with different tropes for me. After having marathoned stuff like steins gate, macross zero, macross frontier, break blade and a lot more it all feels a lot less interesting to me lately.
Probably going to watch Eve No Jikan tomorrow and will probably giving Soul Eater a rewatch.
I know what you mean, but KLK just presses all the right buttons for me: when I watched episode 1, I was interested. When I saw episode 3,I knew I was going to be a total fanboy of the show.
Spoiler:
An epic duel between the "hero" and "villain" in episode 3? The sheer ammount of fun, epic music, animation and Satsuki kept being one of the coolest and most badass characters that I know of, uff, What an episode!
Ah, Soul Eater, I love that show. I cried tears of laughter far too many times because of the Kid and the master of the Shinigami Chop I do have a small figure of Shinigami-Sama, he's fantastic.
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Soladrin wrote: Man, you guys are obsessed with that show... It's fun and all but it isn't THAT good...
I actully enjoy 3 shows this season more than KLK. Its still more fun to talk about a show we enjoy in common than some random this though. I am enjoying Log horizon most, then Noragami and Magi before KLK. I dont disagree that its enjoyable at all though.
KLK is my favorite I think of the season, it just hits the right buttons despite using all the anime cliches, kind of liken Gurren Lagann. But yes, loving Noragami (can't wait for next episode!), Log Horizon, Nobunagun, and Magi. Tokyo Ravens, Hamatora, and Buddy Complex have also been good.
On the old, Soul Eater definitely ranks up there. I love how they actually have some fight good choreography instead of just blurred punches. That brings me right into Full Metal Alchemist as well, which is also superb.
AduroT wrote: KLK is my favorite I think of the season, it just hits the right buttons despite using all the anime cliches, kind of liken Gurren Lagann. But yes, loving Noragami (can't wait for next episode!), Log Horizon, Nobunagun, and Magi. Tokyo Ravens, Hamatora, and Buddy Complex have also been good.
On the old, Soul Eater definitely ranks up there. I love how they actually have some fight good choreography instead of just blurred punches. That brings me right into Full Metal Alchemist as well, which is also superb.
I'm all about Noragami man, love me some of that. I don't really know how to describe it, but I like a lot. It's probably my favorite show of the season
Spoiler:
Like Yukine just keeps breaking my heart. I can't stay mad at him though, I'm really pulling for him to turn around
Also I need some help for anyone who has seen Ghost in the Shell. I think this may have been talked about before, but I was wondering about which order I should watch the movies in. I have seen the series, 1 season and second, and the following special. I never watched the moves, so I was going to start with the movie "Ghost in the Shell." After that, I'm not sure whether to watch "Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence" next, or "Ghost in the Shell 2.0"
It doesn't look like 2.0 is set in the same timeline as the other two, so is it safe to watch it last?
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Well, that and the entire idea of that series offends me.
I love it! too damn cool!
