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don't I recall you saying a few months ago that you'd rather play guitar than convert?
Boy that I'm glad you did not.
The demon prince is spot on.

Thanks a lot guys!

 KrautScientist wrote:
While I wasn't exactly in favour of you starting a Tzeentchian daemon army, that Daemon Prince is beyond awesome -- and easily one of the most inspired Tzeentchian models I have ever seen.

You know what, Rasmus: I have now come to the conclusion that you might be physically incapable of building a model that isn't fantastic -- go ahead, prove me wrong! I dare you!

Haha, thanks, although I'm pretty sure you'll find some non-fantastic models on the first few pages of this thread, back when I had no idea what I was doing.

 Darth Bob wrote:
The Lord of Change looks cool, but are you going to Chaos-ify the eagle head with some of your GS magic? It looks like a plain eagle head that doesn't know what it's doing on a daemon's body at the moment.

Also, for the Balrog LoC, you should totally make it looks like some sort of colossal, horrifying Flamer of Tzeentch; give it multiple mouths spouting flames all over its body and stuff like that. I think that'd be really cool.

You can rest assured that he will be completely mental - I have an insane idea for a head. He will indeed be a Lord of change/Master of insanity.

Darth Mustard wrote:
don't I recall you saying a few months ago that you'd rather play guitar than convert?
Boy that I'm glad you did not.
The demon prince is spot on.

I don't think I've ever said that - I wouldn't want to have to choose between my two absolute favorite things to do. Still, both hobbies sort of ebb and flow - sometimes I feel more like playing music, sometimes I feel more like modelling and toying with little plastic men - ah, the beauty of choice. Thanks btw!

 GuitaRasmus wrote:
Haha, thanks, although I'm pretty sure you'll find some non-fantastic models on the first few pages of this thread, back when I had no idea what I was doing.

Mate, the models on the first few pages are your World Eaters, and even though they might seem like a failure to you now, seen from your ivory tower of awesome, they are still some of the best WE models around and remain an inspiration to the rest of us

Great daemon prince, i love th dynamism of the pose...if you would stretch his left arm and build some kind of flames coming from his palm, it would be amazing imho. One small question (and I hope I'm not overstepping): will you not use the whole Phoenix wings but just the frost edges??

That's a sick daemon prince. You really made it look convincingly Tzeentchish.

 KrautScientist wrote:

 GuitaRasmus wrote:
Haha, thanks, although I'm pretty sure you'll find some non-fantastic models on the first few pages of this thread, back when I had no idea what I was doing.

Mate, the models on the first few pages are your World Eaters, and even though they might seem like a failure to you now, seen from your ivory tower of awesome, they are still some of the best WE models around and remain an inspiration to the rest of us

I don't think they're rubbish at all, and I'm quite proud of them - but there are some really bad conversions among them - my first daemon prince and obliterator comes to mind.

 Legio Ultra wrote:
Great daemon prince, i love th dynamism of the pose...if you would stretch his left arm and build some kind of flames coming from his palm, it would be amazing imho. One small question (and I hope I'm not overstepping): will you not use the whole Phoenix wings but just the frost edges??

Not at all overstepping - the frost edges was lying around in my bits box, so I used them - I'll sculpt an edge on them, so they don't look incomplete.

Btw, I just bought a complete phoenix today, for my Lord of change, and been spending all night making the basic structure of him - he's going to be INSANELY weird. Pics tomorrow.

Here's the first basic structure of my balrog-based Lord of Change - obviously there's lots of greenstuffing to be done, and he's gonne have mouths and eyes around his body, but I really like where he's going:



"Wait a second, isn't that..."

Yes! Yes, he has a hand for a head! Explanation will come later, when I write up some fluff for him.

Not sure about the hand... but I'm inclined to trust your judgement.

Yeah, seconded Not sold yet either, but then this would be the first of your models that I don't like, so I'll happily assume that you'll make it look awesome in the end -- plus I am getting a distinct Guillermo Del Toro vibe from the model, and that cannot be a bad sign

And, in any case, the body and overall build are already beyond reproach. Fantastic work!

I definitely think both of them looked cool. I would probably like the hand more if I hadn't seen the eaglehead first. But the hand looks really neat. I think I just wanted to see a big eagledemon.

This guy took facepalming to a whole new level ....I like him, he screams Tzeentch all over, and it's the first not vulture-headed approach to the Lords of Change.
I think that two other heads, one on each side of the neck would make him look like the incarnation of madness (which is a good thing the way I see it).
Great mini, looking forward to see how he'll end up!!!!

I'm on the Bird head boat as well. All the other Tezz daemons are bird headed, so it fit very well. We will see on the lord of high fives, you may pull it off yet.

I'm just enjoying all the hand puns.

 Chemical Cutthroat wrote:
I definitely think both of them looked cool. I would probably like the hand more if I hadn't seen the eaglehead first. But the hand looks really neat. I think I just wanted to see a big eagledemon.

There's two different models. The smaller one with the eagle head is the prince, the "Lord of High Fives" is the Lord of Change.


I think it's kinda cool that the head is parting the waters - I'm really hooked on the concept myself, although it might need some finetuning. It's screwed up in just the right way, tzeentch-style.

I've gotta hand it to you, the hand-head looks great. I prefer it over the bird-head myself, they're the default and no one tosses up any variety - it's change for Tzeentch's sake!

Wellthen! Carry on!

I love the hand one, I think it would possibly look better if it didn't have the thumb. Then that would leave the three fingers on top to form a sort of Slig mouth from the Oddworld video games ( if you are familiar with them ?)

Then green-stuffing some jaw muscles around the connection between the hand and and lower jaw would tie it all together nicely I think It will turn out to be the best model Hands Down !

Very cool! The pose is really natural despite all the limbs and crazy feet/leg construction. And I love the hand-head. Although I do wonder if it would be even creepier if some or all of the fingers instead of having claws ended in open tube-like holes like the old depictions of Horrors and Tzeentch himself. Just a thought!

The more I look at the hand the more I really really like it.
Excellent work as usual!

This sort of thing is why I loved the "Cubes of Tzeench" army- I figure, people just don't have enough imagination when it comes to Chaos. There's almost nothing that requires you to have a head for your head. Or have hands for hands. Heck, look at the Hellbrute- the guy's got mouths in the middle of his hands and tonguetacles coming out of an armpit- and he's meant to be generi-Chaos, not even dedicated to the Lord of Change!

I say go ALL OUT with the mutations. Heads on at odd angles, strange growths, tentacles, scales and feather patches, the whole shebang. Heck, maybe even add some non-bird wings someplace.

Pretty cool, pretty creepy, I dig it. Maybe you could make one with the hand being in place of the jaw? Think that'd be pretty cool too.

Stay with the hand Guita, you gotta follow your gut on these things and if you can 'creepy' up a model and make people think differently about it then thats a great model

 nerdfest09 wrote:
Stay with the hand Guita, you gotta follow your gut on these things and if you can 'creepy' up a model and make people think differently about it then thats a great model

Thanks! I'm rather inclined to it myself - like I said, I think it's really cool that it parts the waters somehow.

I made a herald out of three of the amazing little blue horrors from the chariot of Tzeentch - they have somehow stolen a heralds disc and his gadgets, and are now pretending to do the Heralds job on the battlefield - that is, when they stop squabbling long enough to conjure up some spells.




Sadly, I can't claim the idea as my own; it's stolen (how appropriate!) from Porcos amazing Tzeentch blog on Warseer:

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?372125-Porco-s-three-colored-daemons-army

Not so sure about the hand-head yet, maybe it'll look better when painted?

The hand-head is something new and different, just the sort of thing I've come to expect, to be honest I find it disturbing enough to be able to say that I do not like it at all, but that seems the point of daemons, so stay the course!

Hurry up and finish it, yah?

I dig the hand-head. I think if you can pull it off if you blend the hand into the neck more and add a gum line/toothy maw on the inside of the palm.

I think I'll have to go out on a limb and trust that he'll nail this model handily.

 Chemical Cutthroat wrote:
I think I'll have to go out on a limb and trust that he'll nail this model handily.

That's awful you should handle yourself better.

Darth Bob wrote:
I dig the hand-head. I think if you can pull it off if you blend the hand into the neck more and add a gum line/toothy maw on the inside of the palm.

I second the teeth idea! Anything for more wierdness

Nah- should put ears on the fingertips.

Not saying which fingertips- but somewhere. Or maybe put the teeth on a non-head hand.

 prime12357 wrote:

 Chemical Cutthroat wrote:
I think I'll have to go out on a limb and trust that he'll nail this model handily.

That's awful you should handle yourself better.

Get a hold of yourselves!