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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 04:59:36
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Dakka Veteran
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I vote new thread. I also vote to add me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 05:00:12
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ok folks, here's the link to the official thread, UPDATED rules (that means re-read them), and has as much of a complete list of participants and category that I have available. I have also sent a PM to legoburner requesting front page exposure.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/563097.page
This terrain thread is no longer the gathering point for the contest. It's been quite overwhelmed with activity. 6 pages in 5 days vs. 6 prior pages in 7 months. Granted I was away for an extended period, but that's still a huge difference.
I expect things will quiet down soon and I'll be getting back to my little hunks of junk. I'll share what I have as the opportunity arises.
See you all on the contest thread. Thank you so much for being part of this.
@ Strombones- Added as Exalted. Thanks for joining!
@ everyone- That's it, clear off. Out you go. Yes, the lot of you.
see you on the contest thread
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/11/14 05:13:09
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 07:18:47
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Gargantuan Great Squiggoth
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No sorry refusing to leave.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 07:58:21
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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*unsubscribing...*
Not
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 09:38:06
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Sneaky Lictor
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Ok then... I shall dive in head first... and check the depth with my face!
Mark me for Lord then.
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My P&M Blog: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/315066.page
Correct. Despite countless millennia of evolution, technological advances and civilization, we're still monkeys throwing feces at things we don't like.-Zed.
Imperial Flyers don't actually "fly" they just go fast enough that they fall in an arc that keeps them parallel to the ground. -Clockwork Zion
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 15:19:32
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Fighter Ace
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Shouldn't Mr. Steingass be in Overlord?
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Eh...
Inmygravenimage: That's sweet dude. I bet her ass is bad...
Camkierhi - What a load of rubbish... Amazing!
Rogue Wolves - Its rediculous how much character you pack into those guys
Skalk Bloodaxe: I know those will be awesome when finished, but right now they look like crackers.
Necro-pocalypse weirdness:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424470.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 15:37:51
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Clearly bribery can get you into a lower bracket
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/19 03:00:02
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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No posts here in 4 days. Back to normal.
I'm going to compile these pictures and post them on the contest thread, but felt like putting them here first since this is my 'real' thread.
I've been getting a lot of questions about what is 'junk', what should it look like, etc. My response has been to build the model they want on their table. Not the answer they are looking for apparently. Tonight I decided to show them exactly what I mean. The following took 25 minutes from junk to model:
25 minutes. All I'm waiting for now is the glue to dry. I'll let it set until tomorrow just to make sure it's done.
I think I'll do this for all the junk heaps I'm going to offer as prizes. I'm going to make one about twice the size for the 'peoples choice' overall winner.
If you are reading this are are not aware of the contest, click the junk pile contest tag in my sig. Contest ends Friday Dec 13th.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/19 03:15:14
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Ahh, cool beans Skalk. I feel a lot better about mashing all of my bits together with hot glue instead of meticulously placing everything now  I think I'm gonna have to do a regular old pile like the one you've shown above, just for fun. My entry is a bit different in shape, and a nice pile like that looks pretty fun
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/19 03:27:26
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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me? I don't really care. I'm not much of a competitor. I build models that I want. No matter how many pics I post for you guys to see, I'm the one that has to look at my shelves and tables. But I'm honored that you think so Maus!
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/19 03:37:53
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Gargantuan Great Squiggoth
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We need a new title bestowed, Junkmiester General goes to Skalk.
Now that's the way to show us.
As to Mr Steingass, you are the Overlord.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/19 03:44:14
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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@ Grim- I was going to use a hot glue gun tonight since the plastics are made of different materials and do not always stick well, but I decided against it. not sure why, I just didn't. Buit it is a valuable resource for things like this as it can fill in the 'dark underside' gaps between materials.
@ Dave- Hi!
@ Camkierhi- Thank you for the title, but I'll decline. I'm plain ol' Skalk Bloodaxe. If I start collecting titles I might start to believe my own press releases.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/19 09:58:42
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Fighter Ace
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dsteingass wrote:
me? I don't really care. I'm not much of a competitor. I build models that I want. No matter how many pics I post for you guys to see, I'm the one that has to look at my shelves and tables. But I'm honored that you think so Maus!
Well, seeing as you, in my humble opinion, are probably the best terrain artist here, its not an honour... its a curse
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Eh...
Inmygravenimage: That's sweet dude. I bet her ass is bad...
Camkierhi - What a load of rubbish... Amazing!
Rogue Wolves - Its rediculous how much character you pack into those guys
Skalk Bloodaxe: I know those will be awesome when finished, but right now they look like crackers.
Necro-pocalypse weirdness:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424470.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/19 19:05:08
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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THat is a junkpile!!
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/19 19:43:27
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I clearly need more junk. I guess my busted white out roller and a broken VHS tape won't cut it. A-scavenging I will go.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/19 19:48:38
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Moltar wrote:I clearly need more junk. I guess my busted white out roller and a broken VHS tape won't cut it. A-scavenging I will go.
Take a hammer with you, that junk can be dangerous
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/19 19:56:28
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hey now. I never forget a hammer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/19 21:19:33
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Moltar wrote:I clearly need more junk. I guess my busted white out roller and a broken VHS tape won't cut it. A-scavenging I will go.
You have an entire VCR? Oh man. You have WAY enough junk to make a junk pile. Take a screwdriver and some pliers to it and you'll quickly find that the parts are more than enough to make an awesome pile of junk. nd if you need some bulk in the center, take said hammer and bust up a few larger chunks.
I'm not giving you 'insider information'. Anyone can read this thread and from the beginning it has been all about sharing ideas and techniques.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/19 22:22:15
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Fixture of Dakka
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Nice pile of junk Skalk, but you may want to re-think the battery in there. Time may not be kind to that
Junk for the junk god!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/19 22:36:53
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Fighter Ace
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The battery will likely leak over time... I am clueless as to what could possible seal that enough... Alkaline will do all sorts of nasty shizzle to yer health too... Wouldn't want you to become Skalk Sick-axe
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Eh...
Inmygravenimage: That's sweet dude. I bet her ass is bad...
Camkierhi - What a load of rubbish... Amazing!
Rogue Wolves - Its rediculous how much character you pack into those guys
Skalk Bloodaxe: I know those will be awesome when finished, but right now they look like crackers.
Necro-pocalypse weirdness:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424470.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/20 15:52:31
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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@ both- Agreed. I rec'd a couple PMs regarding the battery as well as your post. It'll be coming out tonight. I wouldn't give it much mind if I were going to keep the piece for myself, but ceding to the concerns of others I am making the responsible decision.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 20:48:12
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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i´ve heard from a lil we bird that soon we might get spoiled with a new update?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 21:27:08
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Gargantuan Great Squiggoth
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Ooooh update please sir.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 21:36:06
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Little bird was right.
This is in response to a requests I've had from a couple Cultists and to keep things fair and neutral I'm posting it on my Terrain thread. It's relevant enough to be included here as a small tut (or at least an opinion). I don't have time to post example pics but the text should be enough to help people take the next step.
RUST
Rust is easier than you might think, and there are a number of ways to do it. I won't do *all* the legwork, but here's a few ideas to consider and investigate:
Salting- By far the most popular and effective method I've used. It is very realistic as the rust comes from underneath, not layered on top of the metal. Check YouTube for salting videos, you'll find a lot of them.
Baking Soda- a bit more tough to work with but the results are decent. It gives a 'bloating with decay' look to the metal. My favorite recipe for powder is to apply liquid superglue to certain areas that look like the metal would separate and bloat (such as edges and some surfaces of metal), sprinkle baking soda on the glue, let completely dry, brush off the loose baking soda that didn't stick, prime and paint. You'll be dabbing rust on the baking soda in this application, it won't be 'rust from beneath' but it still looks really good.
I've also started to use a different method where I prime my piece (rust or black, doesn't matter) sprinkle baking soda in the same areas that look like the metal would separate and bloat (such as edges and some surfaces of metal), let dry 'as is', later spray matte sealer over entire model (it soaks into the baking soda and makes it hard as a rock). In both applications you can also move on to the salt method.
Brushing- Not an application I use all the time I found it has worked well for me in certain situations. When I use this method it is almost always in conjunction with either (or both) of the methods above. I prime my model with a rust base (I prefer to use spray paint) and once completely dry I spray at least 3 coats of matte sealer (being sure that each application completely dries first). If I'm going to use any other technique on the model as well as brushing this is when I do it. Once the other methods are complete and I've gotten to the point where I have most of my 'final paint' done I use a small steel brush (looks like a toothbrush, available in most hardware stores) and lightly scrub over flat surfaces and sometimes edges of metal (but rarely over any baking soda as it can chip off). The light scrubbing removes the top layer of paint to expose the base beneath, but the matte sealer helps to prevent scrubbing through the base color down to the plastic.
Dry brushing- While tis method can pick out edges quite nicely I don't like to use it very often. I reserve it as a last resort for those times when I'm completely sick of working on a model and the options left are dry brush and be done with it or grab my 10 lb hammer and smash the model into atomic particles. With few exceptions I've chosen dry brushing. If you go with this method I'd recommend a bright color first (orange is my favorite) and brush over it with a darker color, gives a 'subdued reveal' look.
These are not the only methods available by far they are just the ones I use. There are many resources available online (Dakka and YouTube being a great places to start).
Hope this helps!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 21:50:32
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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while i used superglue and soda already together i haven´t yet thought about that in terms of achieving a corroded effect on surfaces... i think i will try that...i still haven´t had the guts tho to try the salting methode... somthing in my weird mind tells me i will screw it^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 21:55:08
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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@ Vik- try it on a few sacrificial pieces. My first few were on blocks of wood, and you know that even a 'nightmare' of a mistake can be turned into something awesome.
But do try it on a few things you won't miss, like even a soup can.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 21:58:42
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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actually that is a brilliant idea... no real loss there but much to be gained from that expirience...  ...sometimes i am really angst-ridden...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 22:27:03
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Gargantuan Great Squiggoth
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I personally have had much success with the superglue and bicarb approach, I feel it gives a nice texture. Many people are better than me at these techniques though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/22 01:14:37
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:@ Vik- try it on a few sacrificial pieces. My first few were on blocks of wood, and you know that even a 'nightmare' of a mistake can be turned into something awesome.
But do try it on a few things you won't miss, like even a soup can.
I can now see Viks wife open the cupboard and finding that vik has pulled all the labels off the canned goods and has experimented with the technique. "It's okay honey, I color coded the cans by flavor"
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/22 02:19:01
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Personally, I'm not a fan of the salt method. In the latest issue of FineScale Modeler, someone used it on a plane..it just looks overdone to me.
Oh..and I disagree, rust DOES sometimes grow on the outside
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/11/22 02:21:20
"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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