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**Ledabot**

Coolant has been in mech games for a long time. That I know. You don;t have to worry too much about stalkers, they only have 1 mod before master. The other big map was in development before alpine was. If anything, it should be in game and alpine removed.

I welcome any new content. These guys do a good job and see the advantages of a happy fanbase. I don't see them stuffing things up too much.

**Lynata**

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Coolant_Pod

Still, not sure if want. Yeah, we can buy them for c-bills too, but I have a general aversion against "consumables" of any kind, and without doubt the Coolant Flush in particular will greatly increase a 'Mech's performance for a short amount of time - potentially the time it is engaging you - and nudges the balance of the encounter slightly away from skill and towards preparation/resources. I guess we'll see how it works out.

Can't wait to see the new map, however. I really love Alpine especially because it is so huge, so another large map is exactly what I'm hoping for to see more of.

The Training Grounds sound interesting, too, although I would wish you could enter them with another pilot in a team to train stuff together or act as instructor for someone new. Or even just to make silly videos like you occasionally see on youtube, without the requirement of synch drops.

Lastly, I'm also curious about the new cockpit items and camo schemes. I'm hoping that the latter will include at least one "traditional" stripe pattern rather than a true camo paintjob or some weird art. Right now, when it comes to "classic heraldry", all we have is the default pattern and the still-exclusive-and-thus-unavailable-to-most-players PC Gamer skin.

**Ouze**

I've played this pretty much all weekend.

1.) My favorite build is probably my founder mech, and it's got nothing to do with the c-bill boost: it's got 2x LRM13's and 4x medium lasers. I found this is ideal for almost anything other then dueling Commadoes, and in a pinch I can fend them off.

2.) AMS is godly. I have a few builds without it but I definitely feel the lack of it.

3.) Capturing points is horribly broken. I went out as a Raven and capped points all game once. I must have capped 8 points. My reward for that was being dead last on the leaderboard. Lame.

4.) I tried building a Splatcat as well, and it's kind of harder then I expected from what I read on the forums. I haven't finish the build, so I have 6x SRMs, Endo-Steel, and double heat sinks. I haven't yet gotten a larger engine (and I'm not sure which to get, XL315? What's the benefit?). It seems I consistently get Alpine Peaks when I'm in this chassis, sigh. Also, a single volley takes me to like 45% heat. I must be doing something wrong.

**Soladrin**

You are doing something wrong, you're building a splatcat.

Anyway, I don't touch catapults, not for me.

Kind of annoyed that the next heavy is Jagermech and not Orion. :(

**Lynata**

Why would you get an XL-Engine? Sure, you'll be a bit faster and have more free tonnage, but the true limiter is crit space - plus, you don't really need to be that fast as a Splatcat (given that they're pretty much ambushers rather than pursuers). The XL will only make you more vulnerable, as your side torsos will catch a lot of attention from those people who try to shoot off your ears.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=13&l=4e40b98ea66c2e42eee0a3750d5d7717c4e5cf3d
or alternatively (if you really don't want to cheap out on AMS)
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=13&l=345110b79091747c9d5bc6ff3eb77200e360b845
(the former is more viable for a distance up to ~100, 200 meters, I reckon, whereas the latter is all-out shotgun spread)

I shouldn't actually support this, but it's still better than the 3L. Plus, maybe the devs will fix boating some day the more rage such builds produce on MWO's forums.

Ouze wrote:it's got 2x LRM13's

Dude, you got cheated by the sales rep!

But yeah, your fav sounds good. No cheese and nice support potential. Personally, I really like having some artillery at my back - if it's my own team, that is.

**Ouze**

Hah, er - 15's.

I wasn't sure about the engine at all. If it's a bad idea, I'll skip it.

I know the splat cat is lame, but I need to max out basics on 3 cats anyway, as that's my preferred chassis. I picked it back in September 12, before all these build shenanigans started - I just like the way it looks.

**Lynata**

I'm not an expert when it comes to heavies, but I think the general opinion is that XLs are only really worth it if you drive a fast 'Mech that will catch fewer shots. I am using a standard engine in my relatively fast (90 kph) Centurion and I have survived a lot longer - there were several games where my 'Mech was nothing but legs, center torso and head. And I still managed to dish out kills thanks to CT pulse lasers!

Maybe give it a try and take note of how often your right/left torsos blow up right now - that's the point where it would be game over for you if you'd use an XL engine. Then, keep in mind what you still managed to achieve that. This way you should get a good idea of how much an XL would really help.

You could also try to do 6xLRM5, just for the "katyusha" style launch sequence. It looks really cool.

Or mix it up with 4 LRM10/15 and 2xSRM6/SSRM2, just so you have some close quarters defense.

The Splatcat is about pure efficiency - if you really care about K/D ratio and/or want to troll other pilots instead of "just" having some normal fun in a challenging game. You don't need 6xSRM just to level the chassis, 's all I'm saying.

**Ouze**

I think I'll try just that. I think the splatcat style of play isn't for me, even if I like the chassis - I'm more of a medium range fighter.

**Soladrin**

XL's are crap in all the heavies we have because they all have MASSIVE side torso's.

And Centurian's are just crazy zombies.

**Lynata**

We've got some devposts online regarding the upcoming patch:

Coolant Flush Consumables

"State Rewind" Hit Detection

New MechLab Display

Interesting stuff.

Coolant Flush doesn't sound as bad as I thought it'd be. Still, let's see how it works out in-game.

Soladrin wrote:And Centurian's are just crazy zombies.

**Ledabot**

Lynata wrote:
We've got some devposts online regarding the upcoming patch:

Coolant Flush Consumables
"State Rewind" Hit Detection
New MechLab Display

Interesting stuff. Coolant Flush doesn't sound as bad as I thought it'd be. Still, let's see how it works out in-game.

Soladrin wrote:And Centurian's are just crazy zombies.

Why do I feel like you blocked me? I posted about this at the top of the page....

**Lynata**

Huh? Where?

I only see your link to the Creative Director Update (which did not include as much detail as the recent posts) and an assumption that Coolant Flush will be fine. What did I miss?

Btw: Patchnotes here! http://mwomercs.com/game/patch-notes

**Ledabot**

Well it does link to the command chair too....
But yes, sorry. I was overreacting.

Being a day ahead sucks sometimes. They say the 5th of march? but it's the 6th before they get here.

**Lynata**

Back then the devposts were not yet online, hence it's new material.

But yeah, the waiting sucks.

Looks as if the new map isn't in yet, though. I is sad.
... might get me those dog-tags to hang into my cockpit tho, depending on the looks.

**Soladrin**

The fix to laser hit detection is awesome. Unless you're a light pilot, you'll hate it.

New sound effects on lasers are terrible though.

**Lynata**

lol, the new laser reload sound is hilariously bad - feels like it was ripped straight out of some sci-fi flick ... from the 60s!

Paint_To_Redemption wrote:Callsign is: Pater Mons

No it isn't.

**Ouze**

Would it be an improvement to add Artemis to a Cat A1?

**Soladrin**

Depends on your load out as with all things.

Keep in mind, Artemis only works when you have line of sight.

**Gitzbitah**

I must say, I love the new stats they offer. It really lets me know how accurate I am- I'm shocked at how bad I am with LRMS. I need to switch to a good PPC boat, at least according to the stats. I like that trial Commando too.

A jenner and I knocked out a stalker and a cat in Alpine when they got too far behind their force, then capped their base. Everyone else on our team died, but we still won because they couldn't reach us in time. Kills feel so much more epic when your opponent is 4 times your size.

**Soladrin**

Kills also feel really epic when it's 3 lights in the span of a minute.

(happened yesterday now that I finished my light hunter cataphract)

**mullet_steve**

I wish the mechs in practice mode would move a little even if it is just walking/jogging in a repeating patern

**Gitzbitah**

Soladrin wrote:
Kills also feel really epic when it's 3 lights in the span of a minute. (happened yesterday now that I finished my light hunter cataphract)

What weapons does it take to hunt lights? My hunchback absolutely despises the little things. I upped the engine, but still can't seem to stick enough damage on them to stop them. I've been thinking of trying to ram 2 LB-10xs in and just blasting their general area... but I am prone to brute force solutions.

**Soladrin**

If they don't have ECM, streaks will do it.

Let me show you what I'm using.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=42&l=9b43c9c8767c0d705462ec7ade83cbd5aa26de5d

Mine is at master level so it runs at 82KPH.

Essentialy I'm a walking shotgun with some lasers, the LBX-10 while obviously not as accurate as an AC 10 due to firing a spread of pellets is extremely effective against lights because well.. You don't need to hit them that much. Same story with the SRM6's. Having the SRM's on an arm makes them extremely versatile too when you're in a circle strafing battle. And with the improved laser hit detection those work really well too now.

**Paint_To_Redemption**

Lynata wrote:
lol, the new laser reload sound is hilariously bad - feels like it was ripped straight out of some sci-fi flick ... from the 60s!

Paint_To_Redemption wrote:Callsign is: Pater Mons
No it isn't.

LOL... that should have been Pater Mors haha.

**Ouze**

I don't know what happened exactly, but I'm doing way better in the last few games. Last few rounds with my stalker, I just was dropping mechs like crazy in the middle distance. I had like 755 damage, which is super high for me.

Not sure if it's a patch difference,or if it's because I've been playing so much I just got better.

Also, that awkward feeling when you saved up enough for Artemis, join a match, get excited because it's Alpine Peaks and you're in a missle boat, and then realize that you neglected to buy Artemis-enabled ammunition, so your only weapon is a single SRM2.

**Lynata**

Soladrin wrote:If they don't have ECM, streaks will do it.

Which unfortunately means they're wasted tonnage 50% of the time.

As far as missiles go, I'd recommend SRM6 and relying on the spread. As long as just 1/3 of the payload hits, you've got equal damage. The downside is higher ammunition consumption, but on the upside it also means you can do much more damage against slower/bigger targets. Hunchies can also be dangerous laserboats tho.

Paint_To_Redemption wrote:LOL... that should have been Pater Mors haha.

Better.

Ouze wrote:Not sure if it's a patch difference,or if it's because I've been playing so much I just got better.

Prolly a bit of both? I noticed some people QQ'ing about higher damage from LRMs, but I'm not sure yet whether there's something to it or if it's just the usual tinfoil conspiracies.

Ouze wrote:Also, that awkward feeling when you saved up enough for Artemis, join a match, get excited because it's Alpine Peaks and you're in a missle boat, and then realize that you neglected to buy Artemis-enabled ammunition, so your only weapon is a single SRM2.

How did it work out the other times? I've heard Artemis missiles now have that unique "helix" flight pattern they've been teasing on youtube.

**Soladrin**

They changed the spread on LRM volleys so this may be effecting how damage is spread around.

**Sgt_Scruffy**

I've heard artemis more effectively targets center torso. If you've been having a good time with LRMs and you have Artemis, that may be it. Also, I've noticed ALOT more TAG in game as the player base matures.

**Lynata**

Talk on the forums has it that it's less a matter of where the missiles lock on, but that the new flight pattern has tightened the spreading so much that they pretty much hit all now - one-shotting Lights and stuff.

Too early for me to confirm anything myself tho - the one thing that keeps bugging me is the ECM/Streak controversy.

Something from the new patch I really don't like are those horrible new laser recharge sounds, though - and the huge CAPTURE FIELD HERE markers that keep boxing my immersion in the gut.

**Gitzbitah**

Lrms definitely feel more beefy. I've quite enjoyed altering my Hunchback into a Quad large laser machine. I was inspired by the deadly ridiculous XLswayback- which packs 7 LL into the chassis, and can manage maybe one alpha before overheating.

I'm doing mine with the J and SP, with twin LL in each arm at the expense of secondary weaponry. It makes for very exciting matches!