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Lynata, I took your advice and got the Endo-Steel structure...which allowed me to upgrade my Standard Engine 200 to a 265. Oh man the difference is astounding. I had to drop a large laser (I replaced the other with the ER variant), so my damage dropped a little (but then again, so did my heat). Enhanced my play experience by a silly amount.

It's like I'm piloting an entirely different mech. Centurion with 48-ish damage, 88kph, little to no heat, max armor. Loving my CN9-AL more than ever.

Frankenberry wrote:Lynata, I took your advice and got the Endo-Steel structure...which allowed me to upgrade my Standard Engine 200 to a 265. Oh man the difference is astounding. I had to drop a large laser (I replaced the other with the ER variant), so my damage dropped a little (but then again, so did my heat). Enhanced my play experience by a silly amount.
It's like I'm piloting an entirely different mech. Centurion with 48-ish damage, 88kph, little to no heat, max armor. Loving my CN9-AL more than ever.

Nice!

If you add Ferro-Fibrous Armor and slightly reduce the missile capacity, you might be able to fit a second ERLL - but I have a feeling that would get tremendously hot, so it may be better to just stick with the one and instead improve something else. Also note that the Centurion has a somewhat useless arm, which is often used to dump armour points. I wouldn't drop it to 0 as you can still use it as a shield, however.

Are you using LRMs or SRMs? If the latter, perhaps this could be an interesting loadout. For LRMs, you could always just switch out the launchers for an LRM15 with 1 ton of ammo.
Just an idea, though. I like toying around with loadouts, but ultimately every pilot has their own playstyle and should tool their configuration to their own expectations and tactics!

Anyways, it was a fun couple matches. Let's do that again sometime.

Devizz wrote:I also used to be a huge MechWarrior fan, is this game any good?

I'd say about ~50 pages are saying yes.

Currently having fun with this bad boy.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=88&l=2ff3c073003ed479372eae85963c0205fb69dea7

It looks pretty reliable. I would consider moving some more armour from the rear to the front though. I try and get a 80 20 split, or a 70 30 split if i expect to get surrounded often, but you might be fine since it is quite the brawler loadout and you can get away quite quick.

Yeah, armor seems to work fine since I do rely a lot on mid air twisting for damage spread.

Alright. Finally bought my first Mech- Cataphract. the one with 2 AC/5s, the LL and LRM/5. Enjoying it so far, but dang, customization is, well, daunting. I'm kinda hoping to eventually get the variant of the Jaegermech with the 6 Ballistic hardpoints, and make a bastardized Rifleman out of it.

Customization is fun! I've just tried a so-called Dakkaphract - a Cataphract 4X with four AC/2s ... but it feels a little underwhelming in actual firepower. But dang, if it isn't fun to press that button and go all quad on an enemy 'mech. Literally took apart an Atlas piece by piece last night.

I think I'm gonna try and get this loadout going...

JM6-DD

Or else a missile Cat brawler- as many SRMs as I can fit on the thing.

How effective are Splatcats nowadays?

 Lynata wrote:
Customization is fun! I've just tried a so-called Dakkaphract - a Cataphract 4X with four AC/2s ... but it feels a little underwhelming in actual firepower. But dang, if it isn't fun to press that button and go all quad on an enemy 'mech. Literally took apart an Atlas piece by piece last night.

Lower engine, slap on 4 AC5's and start laughing.

Or, do what I did, buy an Ilya Muromets and slap on 3x UAC5 and 3x Medium laser. Avarage match score is around 4 kills and 700 dmg with that.

If I'm lucky with my jams I can actually straight up kill an atlas in a matter of seconds.

How does one do the 'rolling fire' settup? I remember reading about a way you could potentially get a continuous fire small laser with a setup- I guessed it meant it fired as long as you held down the trigger?

@Soladrin - I can't stand the trial Victor they've got out now, not surprising. What sold you on this chassis?

@Anvildude - Chain fire. Lasers are good using this fire mode, as are mass LRM5s and 10s. It's hilarious to watch a Stalker NOT stop shooting missiles.

I've run into my fair share of Dakkaphracts, -.-, hate those things. You don't really have recoil in the game but mass AC fire really messes up your targeting.

 Frankenberry wrote:
@Soladrin - I can't stand the trial Victor they've got out now, not surprising. What sold you on this chassis?

@Anvildude - Chain fire. Lasers are good using this fire mode, as are mass LRM5s and 10s. It's hilarious to watch a Stalker NOT stop shooting missiles.

I've run into my fair share of Dakkaphracts, -.-, hate those things. You don't really have recoil in the game but mass AC fire really messes up your targeting.

It's essentialy a faster Highlander... that's it. I never even bother trying out trials, already knew what I wanted to do with it. I love me some JJ's.

Also, it's patch day people! Let's see what we get today.

Well, yes. But how do you setup a chainfire? I haven't found any options for reconfiguring weapons outside of combat.

And I don't know why, but I just like ballistic and missile weaponry better than lasers. I think it has something to do with hitscan vs. projectiles- I had the same issue in Tribes Ascend, where I just couldn't get the hang of the few hitscan weapons.

Anvildude wrote:JM6-DD

Ouch. The "DD" stands for "DakkaDakka", I presume?

Avatar wrote:How effective are Splatcats nowadays?

Less, now that heat penalties also affect missile-boating. The community also seems to have finally figured out that blowing off a Splatcat's ear means halving its firepower.
If you manage to park it somewhere where you don't get spotted until you are in range, they can still hurt a lot, of course.

Soladrin wrote:Lower engine, slap on 4 AC5's and start laughing.

I was just trying a setup with 2 AC10's, but I think I will have to give this a try...

Anvildude wrote:How does one do the 'rolling fire' settup? I remember reading about a way you could potentially get a continuous fire small laser with a setup- I guessed it meant it fired as long as you held down the trigger?

Chainfire = Backspace
This switches the currently selected weapon group into chainfire mode (you'll see a blinking underlay repeatedly moving through the slots from top to bottom), so that a press of the firing button will fire only the first weapon, then you'll have a 0.5 second delay until the second weapon fires, and so on. If you have enough lasers you can indeed create a persistent beam, if they are all slotted in a way that they fire from the same lens.

I only use chainfire for my autocannons and LRMs, though. Katyusha-style.


[edit] Patchnotes are out!

3rd person is in (hmm...), Kintaro variants for c-bills, collision fixes and more lava damage in Terra Therma (YES!), some balancing changes and new customisation.
My Centurion got a nice little boost, too.

Of course! DakkaDakka all the way!

Granted, I'm gonna buy a Rifleman as soon as they come out with it- had a toy one as a kid, loved that thing. Lost it, though. Can't wait to have the chance to 'have' one again.



I'm looking at putting 4 AC5s on my Phract, but I can't seem to find the tonnage. You sacrificing armour for that? I did manage a third, by putting a min engine in, and I can almost fit a fourth just by tossing extraneous heat sinks and the large laser, but I'm down by a ton or two- Endo steel and Ferro Fibrous?


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Hehe.

Freem

Here you go:

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=44&l=9a045d2f1a2a21a3e5671952429f121bec13580f

Since those guns have 600+ range having an XL isn't that big an issue.

Anvildude wrote:Hehe.
Freem

Oh gods.

At least try double heat sinks.

Soladrin wrote:http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=44&l=9a045d2f1a2a21a3e5671952429f121bec13580f
Since those guns have 600+ range having an XL isn't that big an issue.

I remain sceptical of your XL Engines.

I call this the Slow But Purposeful

Zombie-capable!

Tried the DHS. Because they take 3 slots per, got me about 2% less efficiency, leaving a lot of slots open.


Heh, slow? I finally got that final AC5 in- sacked the laser entirely and swapped the LRM for SRM2 and an AMS- but I'm using a tiny engine- 140. I'm lucky if I break 30 kph, and get stuck on the banks of rivers.


I'll have to see about swapping it for the 200 though.

 Lynata wrote:
Customization is fun! I've just tried a so-called Dakkaphract - a Cataphract 4X with four AC/2s ... but it feels a little underwhelming in actual firepower. But dang, if it isn't fun to press that button and go all quad on an enemy 'mech. Literally took apart an Atlas piece by piece last night.

It reminds me of one of my favorite troll builds in Mechwariror 4. I just took an annihilator (100 ton mech), maxed out the armor on every location, then filled the rest of the mech with machine guns. An entire battalion's worth of infantry firepower walking around in one unit lol.

Actually, just realized- by switching to Endo Steel, I can pop in a few more sinks, and get to 41% cooling.

Anvildude wrote:Tried the DHS. Because they take 3 slots per, got me about 2% less efficiency, leaving a lot of slots open.

Well, I see a 10% increase in cooling efficiency using my loadout, for a total of 47%.
AND I slotted a faster engine.

I admit, I also threw out the AMS you had no ammo for, though.

But if you use Single Heat Sinks at all, at least stuff them in the legs. You actually get a cooling bonus for heat sinks whose location is submerged in water. Which, naturally, means mostly just the legs (except if you're playing a Commando or Spider).

Ahhh... good to know.

See, always so much better to do collaborative meching. You know, I thought that website was actually an official part of the MWO website- seems silly that it isn't.

 Lynata wrote:

Anvildude wrote:Hehe.
Freem

Oh gods.

At least try double heat sinks.

Soladrin wrote:http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=44&l=9a045d2f1a2a21a3e5671952429f121bec13580f
Since those guns have 600+ range having an XL isn't that big an issue.

I remain sceptical of your XL Engines.

I call this the Slow But Purposeful

Zombie-capable!

I always avoid going below 50km/h. At that point your twist and move speed is too slow to even retaliate against lights in any meaningful way. I prefer an XL engine over getting gutted by a single spider. As for DHS, I try to avoid them when possible due to the crit space it requires, but if I have the room I'll obviously take them.

I want you to guess who was on my team in the lance.

Nice damage stats. XD

Hey Sol, you're Soladrin on MWO too, right? I sent you a friend invite.

I think I'm finally comfortable enough with the game to actually do organized play, and I'd like to get with the Dakka group if possible.

Dayum.

Splatcat?

For the life of me I can't remember what load-out my Cicada used...
I had a Gauss rifle and that's all I remember...

I wonder which Light would be best to fit an AC/20 or two on? Wasn't the Jenner supposedly first made to mount battleship turrets to?