Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

I've got the one with double AC2s, AC5s and Med Lazers

Hoping do deck it out eventually with quad Machine guns and some backup lazers

If you want an MG Jager, you want the DD. (Is that the S you have?)

The better DDapperjager as it's known is ran as follows:
JM6-DD

Though with the S you could go: JM6-S.

I'm still new to this. I have no idea what you said there

What advantage and Disadvantages do DOuble heats sinks offer?

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
I'm still new to this. I have no idea what you said there

What advantage and Disadvantages do DOuble heats sinks offer?

They take up more critical slots, which on some 'mechs aren't all that numerous, but generally, double heat sinks are a worthwhile upgrade compared to their singe brethren.

Although, you can put an utter fethload of them on most chassis, not that you should, but the option is there.

And if you're running a Jaeger, go double heatsinks, you'll want to stay cool and spam those AC's as much as possible.

The advantage of double heat sinks always outweighs the negatives. It offers more cooling per ton. I have never found a mech where it was worth it to not take them.

Honestly, endo and double heat sinks are mandatory on just about every mech. Ferro only on very specific (mostly lights) since it uses far to many crit slots for the tonnage you get back.

Single Heatsinks are 1T, 1 Slot, 1 Heat dissipation.
Double Heatsinks are 1T, 3 slots, 1.4 heat dissipation (2 if in base engine sinks).

Due to the 2x Engine sinks alone it's basically always worth getting DHS.

Endo-Steel takes up 14 slots and reduces the weight of the structure by half.
Endo is effectively mandatory on basically all Lights+Mediums, and on a case by case basis with Heavy+Assault.

Ferro-Fibrous reduces the weight (but not amount) of armour.
It also takes up 14 slots.
Ferro is pretty mandatory on most lights, and useful on lots of mediums, but often takes up too much space vs the weight saving on anything bigger.

XL Engines are massively more expensive, take a 6 more slots (3 for each side torso), but weigh massively less.
Also pretty mandatory for Lights, and again case-by-case on anything larger.


Also, Urbanmech confirmed

OMG, finally!

Also, fun challenge this weekend. Win a match with a kill and assist to score a point.

3 points = 3 days of premium
30 points = Champion cataphract 3D with mechbay.

 Soladrin wrote:
Also, fun challenge this weekend. Win a match with a kill and assist to score a point.

30 points = Champion cataphract 3D with mechbay.

Thanks for the heads up

SO I hear there is some form of new comms program or similar coming into the game -?

Yeah, a Teamspeak 3 style VOIP is going to be integrated in feb.

Among other things.
Urbanmech

 Ovion wrote:
Yeah, a Teamspeak 3 style VOIP is going to be integrated in feb.

Among other things.
Urbanmech

Yeah I saw the UrbanMech - it should be fun - but I would much prefer an old school Warhammer or Marauder - In Black Widow Company colours - in the meantime eagely waiting for my Panther.

not really sure what a VOIP is or if I can use

Voice Over IP. It's ingame voice chat.

I'm more concerned with the command wheel being implemented. VOIP is permanently off in any game I play. I CBA to talk with the plebs.

There'll be group specific too.
So general-any-pug-you-drop with, and group-only options apparently.

Honestly, I'd like a system like in Guns of Icarus:
Unit Leaders are on a channel.
Unit is on a channel.

So you're only communicating with your lance, and lance leaders have to coordinate between them.

But I'm not sure people are coherent enough to make it viable here.

You're a VGS user?

Also, Marauders can't be included due to being one of the Unseen, I think.

VGS?

The system that Tribes uses/used and may have pioneered (I'm not really up on video game chat functionality history).

Take a key that's not oft used, somewhat out of the way, such as "v" for example. Bind that so that it brings up a little menu in-game, which then has sub-menues accessable via other keys (such as 'g' or 'f' or whatnot). While this menu is up, btw, those keys proc first to the menu and don't do other in-game stuff, so no accidental grenades or whatever. Then you have a final keystroke which selects an option from that sub-menu.

In Tribes, 'v' was the initial menu proc, 'g' was for "Social", and 's' was for the setting-appropriate swear word, Shazbot. So hitting 'v-g-s' in rapid succession would almost instantly have your character verbalize "Shazbot", as well as sticking it in chat.

But there were other functions as well. "v-g-h" might give a "Hello" message, or "v-c-d" might say "Defend the Base!"

It's a very smooth system, allowing for a very diverse set of commandes (Tribes had, I think, 5 or 6 initial submenues, some of which had their own sub menus) within the time it would otherwise take to type a single word. And once you learned the system, it was pretty intuitive as well.

Granted, you get the spammers too, but eh.

Anvildude wrote:
You're a VGS user?

Also, Marauders can't be included due to being one of the Unseen, I think.

There are already unseen mechs in the game.

 Soladrin wrote:

Anvildude wrote:
You're a VGS user?

Also, Marauders can't be included due to being one of the Unseen, I think.

There are already unseen mechs in the game.

Yeah several were remade to be less problematic - Locusts, Battlemaster, ShadowHawk IIRC all were taken from elsewhere in their original format but made into less obvious (and sadly somewhat less cool) versions

So do you need stuff to use this VOIP thingy - I don't have comms so doubt it will work for me

Those are Reseen, rather than their original Unseen counterparts, from Project Phoenix.

A few others could be get awayable, but most PGI are staying away from because they're still a hot topic with Harmony Gold, and they don'y want to risk their wrath.

How does Harmony Gold still exist... they haven't made anything since 2005.

fething [MOD EDIT - The Expletive Filter helps but it isn't perfect, and ultimately we're all responsible for the content of our posts. - Alpharius] companies...

Probably on asshat lawsuits and royalties...


Automatically Appended Next Post:
- Yeah, that's pretty much how it lives:

Legal issues
Harmony Gold, via its license of Robotech, claims to own the copywrite in the US for images of mecha from the component series of the show, Super Dimension Fortress Macross, Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross, and Genesis Climber MOSPEADA. They have pursued multiple lawsuits against anyone using mecha which even vaguely resemble these designs.

Most notably, many early designs used in Battletech, such as the Warhammer, Valkyrie, and Marauder, were licensed directly from the Japanese producers of Macross, with the overlapping rights mistake not being realized for nearly a decade. Harmony Gold sued FASA, and as a result these designs were removed from the game. Fan outcry over 'The Unseen' has lead to multiple attempts to negotiate deals allowing for resumed use of the designs, but despite in one case a sourcebook going to press before being abruptly pulled, no deal has ever been reached. As a result of the failed negotiations, the producers of Battletech ruled that any designs not developed in house would no longer be used in order to avoid future issues.

Harmony Gold issued cease and desist orders against sites displaying images and trailers from the video game MechWarrior Online, due to one of the mehs used in the trailer being a Warhammer.[3] The company claims that the images portray ’mechs that they own the rights to, according to a legal settlement from 1996.[4]

The legal status of Harmony Gold's license to Macross is dubious. Harmony Gold’s license for Macross came from Tatsunoko Production, but Japanese courts ruled that it was Studio Nue (creators of the series) that controls the Macross intellectual property. The license Tatsunoko was given was for international distribution outside Japan only, and does not allow them to control the intellectual property.[citation needed]

Harmony Gold is known for making broad ranging claims on the Macross copywrite in order to extract payments from other companies. Harmony Gold claims in Federal Court that Hasbro's SDCC 2013 exclusive set "G.I. Joe vs Transformers The Epic Conclusion" violates their copyright license on the animated Japanese Macross TV series (1982-84).[5]

Their basically just throwing tenuous lawsuits and royalty claims to stay afloat.

Urbanmech preorder goes live in a few hours.
Any of you guys buying it?

the mech famous for being the worst battlemech in history...... nope

I have not had significantly luck with Gauss but. We have simply recently been playing for almost Two weeks now so there remains a whole lot that i can understand. Yet to date I'm not really liking Gauss or perhaps Ability missles.

So is community combat active yet? Is it worth waiting for a patch or dozen since the last time I played?

If implemented are they doing the mechs properly, only Clan with clan factions and IS with IS factions?

Col. Dash wrote:
So is community combat active yet? Is it worth waiting for a patch or dozen since the last time I played?

If implemented are they doing the mechs properly, only Clan with clan factions and IS with IS factions?

Community Warfare is in and improving.
More modes, maps, updates and improvements coming for it in the next months.

Clan and IS are seperate in it.

PUG queue is samey to how it was, but better.

Balance is MUCH better than it used to be.

Also, Urbanmech is up for preorder in about an hour.

The King Crab and Vulture (Mad Dog) are up for C-bills! I might actually get one!

URBIE!!!!!

Maybe I'll start playing again. Better start the cbill grind now...

What are yall's callsigns? I'm Ghazzy

As always, you may call me Ovion
Feel free to add me, or come join us in CIs Teamspeak.
Ask for details if bothered and I'll go find them.