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2019/06/27 07:28:56
Subject: Mad Robot Miniatures: GALAHAD BATTLE TANK - Parts Breakdown and pre-order information
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Regular Dakkanaut
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insaniak wrote:Obispudkenobi wrote:
It's just a cash in on someone else's work, little better than a recaster in my personal opinion, part of the "oh look we could tweak here and there and boom avoid the IP lawyers" .
The hyperbole isn't helping your argument any. This isn't a 'tweak here and there'... aside from having weapons in a similar configuration, it looks nothing like a Leman Russ.
Indeed.
As I wrote above, I see no sense in the argument made.
This is original tank design, period.
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2019/06/27 10:22:10
Subject: Re:Mad Robot Miniatures: GALAHAD BATTLE TANK - Parts Breakdown and pre-order information
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Folks, I reckon don't waste any more time on that particular discussion.
He came, he trolled, he left.
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"All GW will gain is my increased contempt for their business practices." - AesSedai
"Its terrible the way that conversion kit is causing him to buy 2 GW kits... " - Mad4Minis
"GW are hard to parody, as they are sometimes so stupid that the best in comedy couldn't beat them at their own game..." - Paradigm
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2019/06/27 13:21:23
Subject: Mad Robot Miniatures: GALAHAD BATTLE TANK - Parts Breakdown and pre-order information
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Major
In a van down by the river
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mortar_crew wrote: insaniak wrote:Obispudkenobi wrote:
It's just a cash in on someone else's work, little better than a recaster in my personal opinion, part of the "oh look we could tweak here and there and boom avoid the IP lawyers" .
The hyperbole isn't helping your argument any. This isn't a 'tweak here and there'... aside from having weapons in a similar configuration, it looks nothing like a Leman Russ.
Indeed.
As I wrote above, I see no sense in the argument made.
This is original tank design, period.
Well, MAN SE might have some words in regards to how original of a design it is... Those words would not have any force of law behind them though and even if they did there's obviously enough to make it a distinct derivative work from the original. GW would have zero though, given that other than the broad strokes of "It's got a turret and a hull-mounted gun and the option for side guns" there's not much design similarity.
Very tempted by it given that there's always a use for tanks, but knowing that I want to pick up a number of fairly expensive kits in the near future (Chaos Knights, SoB, etc.) makes me a bit hesitant. Really cool design though, so it may win out in the end.
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2019/06/27 14:11:17
Subject: Mad Robot Miniatures: GALAHAD BATTLE TANK - Parts Breakdown and pre-order information
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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That tank looks sweet. Reminiscent of a Panzer V with the sloped armor front.
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2019/06/27 14:43:09
Subject: Mad Robot Miniatures: GALAHAD BATTLE TANK - Parts Breakdown and pre-order information
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Quasistellar wrote:That tank looks sweet. Reminiscent of a Panzer V with the sloped armor front.
Definitely some good panther flavor in it.
And a sweet tank commander to boot.
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2019/06/27 16:00:52
Subject: Re:Mad Robot Miniatures: GALAHAD BATTLE TANK - Parts Breakdown and pre-order information
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Chandler, AZ
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@mortar_crew There will be many more tank commanders to come as well
There are still 10 or so pre-orders remaining, at a reduced price. If you want to get a good deal and support a small business in the process, why not pre-order one today?
www.madrobotminiatures.com
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2019/06/27 19:10:36
Subject: Re:Mad Robot Miniatures: GALAHAD BATTLE TANK - Parts Breakdown and pre-order information
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Regular Dakkanaut
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mad robot wrote:@mortar_crew There will be many more tank commanders to come as well
There are still 10 or so pre-orders remaining, at a reduced price. If you want to get a good deal and support a small business in the process, why not pre-order one today?
www.madrobotminiatures.com
So I ordered two more!
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2019/06/27 20:42:48
Subject: Re:Mad Robot Miniatures: GALAHAD BATTLE TANK - Parts Breakdown and pre-order information
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Chandler, AZ
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mortar_crew wrote: mad robot wrote:@mortar_crew There will be many more tank commanders to come as well
There are still 10 or so pre-orders remaining, at a reduced price. If you want to get a good deal and support a small business in the process, why not pre-order one today?
www.madrobotminiatures.com
So I ordered two more!
...exhalted!
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2019/06/28 07:19:07
Subject: Mad Robot Miniatures: GALAHAD BATTLE TANK - Parts Breakdown and pre-order information
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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I tend to not post outside groups in FB tbh - it clogs my mates' feeds.
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2019/06/29 23:56:14
Subject: Mad Robot Miniatures: GALAHAD BATTLE TANK - Parts Breakdown and pre-order information
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I'd love to add to the 5 I already ordered, but the wife would have some words for me
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2019/06/30 02:01:37
Subject: Mad Robot Miniatures: GALAHAD BATTLE TANK - Parts Breakdown and pre-order information
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Chandler, AZ
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NightReaver wrote:I'd love to add to the 5 I already ordered, but the wife would have some words for me
But there's only 3 pre-orders remaining. Go on...she won't care
Just kidding...thank you for your support
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2019/06/30 04:24:51
Subject: Mad Robot Miniatures: GALAHAD BATTLE TANK - Parts Breakdown and pre-order information
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Regular Dakkanaut
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mad robot wrote:NightReaver wrote:I'd love to add to the 5 I already ordered, but the wife would have some words for me
But there's only 3 pre-orders remaining. Go on...she won't care
Just kidding...thank you for your support
Well, I believe there is only one remaining now...
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2019/06/30 15:13:18
Subject: Mad Robot Miniatures: GALAHAD BATTLE TANK - Parts Breakdown and pre-order information
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Chandler, AZ
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2019/07/01 22:24:58
Subject: Re:Mad Robot Miniatures: GALAHAD BATTLE TANK - Parts Breakdown and pre-order information
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Chandler, AZ
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New release to announce today, the second in our series of remastered rifle arms. This time it's our Shock Troop regiment.
6 poses, including a lefty option and 2 straight firing poses. Price stays the same.
Available now in our webstore
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2019/07/13 20:56:54
Subject: Re:Mad Robot Miniatures: NEW RIFLE AMRMS pg94
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Chandler, AZ
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Out today new heads for our Eschaton Choir line...
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2019/09/27 12:21:56
Subject: Re:Mad Robot Miniatures: NEW RELEASE - Post Apoc Heads
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Chandler, AZ
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Sale starts today...
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2019/10/05 16:52:06
Subject: Re:Mad Robot Miniatures: Welcome in Rocktober SALE
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Chandler, AZ
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Some new releases this weekend...
First up are the Sly Brothers.
Sly 'Guy'...
and Sly 'Bo'...
Also today we have released our first beastmen parts, Goatmen Heads and Goatmen Legs...
You can find all this and so much more at www.madrobotminiatures.com
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2019/11/09 00:09:54
Subject: Re:Mad Robot Miniatures: New Releases! 10/5
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Chandler, AZ
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2019/11/12 11:36:22
Subject: Mad Robot Miniatures: New HEAD RELEASES 11-8-19
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Oooh, I really like those Dragoon heads with masks!
May spur me on to finally make some Armageddon Rough riders... hmmmm....
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ChargerIIC wrote:If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is. |
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2019/11/12 20:27:51
Subject: Mad Robot Miniatures: New HEAD RELEASES 11-8-19
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Chandler, AZ
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Haighus wrote:Oooh, I really like those Dragoon heads with masks!
May spur me on to finally make some Armageddon Rough riders... hmmmm....
No joy on that front, GW just claimed IP on them.
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2019/11/13 20:55:44
Subject: Mad Robot Miniatures: New HEAD RELEASES 11-8-19
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Cowboy Wannabe
Sacramento
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On the dragoon heads?
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2019/11/13 22:24:31
Subject: Mad Robot Miniatures: New HEAD RELEASES 11-8-19
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Navigator
USA
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Apparently they should tell the French. Those would have made perfect WWI Cuirassier heads.
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2019/11/13 23:06:31
Subject: Mad Robot Miniatures: New HEAD RELEASES 11-8-19
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Chandler, AZ
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Yes they claim there is too much similarity to the DKoK Commander
Still waiting to hear back from them about what I could possibly change to make them happy, I'm guessing its the gas mask.
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2019/11/14 09:14:30
Subject: Re:Mad Robot Miniatures: New HEAD RELEASES 11-8-19
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Awww, that is a shame :(
Seems a bit nuts, when both models are based off a historical design:
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ChargerIIC wrote:If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is. |
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2019/11/14 09:34:07
Subject: Mad Robot Miniatures: New HEAD RELEASES 11-8-19
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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I know it's a big thing, but honestly I hope you don't cave in to them, they're clearly overstepping the bounds of what was already established as reasonable in the Chapterhouse case.
Both are evidently derived from historical designs, which should really disqualify any claim over yours on the face of it, but on top of that there are clear differences in detail between them like the shape of the helmet and the style of the crest.
They shouldn't be allowed to go back to their old bullying ways where they use threats and intimidation to achieve results that they have no legal right to.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal |
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2019/11/14 09:41:44
Subject: Mad Robot Miniatures: New HEAD RELEASES 11-8-19
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Yodhrin wrote:I know it's a big thing, but honestly I hope you don't cave in to them, they're clearly overstepping the bounds of what was already established as reasonable in the Chapterhouse case.
Both are evidently derived from historical designs, which should really disqualify any claim over yours on the face of it, but on top of that there are clear differences in detail between them like the shape of the helmet and the style of the crest.
They shouldn't be allowed to go back to their old bullying ways where they use threats and intimidation to achieve results that they have no legal right to.
I agree entirely, but the issue is that lawyers are expensive...
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ChargerIIC wrote:If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is. |
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2019/11/14 13:29:24
Subject: Mad Robot Miniatures: New HEAD RELEASES 11-8-19
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Chandler, AZ
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To be honest, they aren't really bullying me.
They are concerned about a few specific design elements and whether they infringe on their protected IP..
We are having a discussion about them currently so I'll leave it at that.
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2019/11/14 16:09:58
Subject: Mad Robot Miniatures: New HEAD RELEASES 11-8-19
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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Contacting small companies with "concerns" when there's obviously an implicit threat that failing to address their "concerns" will have legal & financial consequences seems like bullying to me, but if you feel otherwise that's that given it's you that has to deal with them.
I hope the situation is resolved fairly.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal |
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2019/11/14 16:32:19
Subject: Mad Robot Miniatures: New HEAD RELEASES 11-8-19
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Chandler, AZ
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Yodhrin wrote:Contacting small companies with "concerns" when there's obviously an implicit threat that failing to address their "concerns" will have legal & financial consequences seems like bullying to me, but if you feel otherwise that's that given it's you that has to deal with them.
I hope the situation is resolved fairly.
In the long game, it's not fair. If they change their tone and start making demands, I will probably have to comply for fear of legal action. I agree, that part doesn't feel fair.
But for now, they are being cordial and I am ok with the exchange as it currently stands.
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2019/11/14 16:38:00
Subject: Mad Robot Miniatures: New HEAD RELEASES 11-8-19
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Posts with Authority
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Hey, robot
Make Ballistic facemasks.
Because reasons.
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