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 reds8n wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
effing the Emperor's Balls to arrive. FML.

.. I hope that's not one of their "choose your own adventure" books !

I think this one is written by one of our own, more notorious members.

 Alpharius wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
You're right though, his characters are all of the same archetype.

Plus, he sure does hate him some Loyalists!

You're joking right?

Anyways...

I really want to see a follow-up to "Cadian Blood". It needs a sequel.

Not joking - though more specifically, he hate him some Loyalist Space Marines.

I won't go into this in too much detail, but check his posts here on Dakka...

Anyways...

How 'bout that Black Library?

Needs more Cadians.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I really want to see a follow-up to "Cadian Blood". It needs a sequel.

It certainly doesn't need a sequel. What BL needs is more IG work from Steve Lyons.

PASS!

The only good IG work from Lyons was "Dead Men Walking".

 BrookM wrote:

 reds8n wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
effing the Emperor's Balls to arrive. FML.

... I hope that's not one of their "choose your own adventure" books !

I think this one is written by one of our own, more notorious members.

That reminds me, I still need to write/post a review of Hive of the Dead. Has anyone else played Herald of Oblivion or Beneath the City of the White Wolf?

 Kanluwen wrote:
The only good IG work from Lyons was "Dead Men Walking".

Which was a much better IG book than Cadian Blood.

 Manchu wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
The only good IG work from Lyons was "Dead Men Walking".

Which was a much better IG book than Cadian Blood.

And Lyons' third book, which include "Ice Guard" and "Death World"....both incredibly awful IG books.

That, mind you, is ignoring his audio book "Waiting Death".

But tastes differ. I didn't mind "Dead Men Walking", but I find the Death Korps rather boring and thought the pacing was a bit jumpy.

Well, worst of the Guard novels has got to be the Tallarn one by Soulban. He also wrote the worst Necromunda novel, somehow managing to turn it into a generic sci-fi setting.

My reviews of both:

Cadian Blood

Dead Men Walking

Cadian Blood was good, pulpy GrimPr0n. Dead Men Walking was at a different level.

Cadian Blood certainly read like pulp fiction, laying it on really, really thick. Dead Men Walking was less about the Korps and more about relation problems amidst of a Necron invasion.

Dead Men Walking managed to take the 40k universe seriously without leaving the brand rails. It's still a 40k novel but it is without a doubt the most serious piece of writing in their catalog.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
You're right though, his characters are all of the same archetype.

Plus, he sure does hate him some Loyalists!

You're joking right?

Anyways...

I really want to see a follow-up to "Cadian Blood". It needs a sequel.

Not joking - though more specifically, he hate him some Loyalist Space Marines.

I won't go into this in too much detail, but check his posts here on Dakka...

Anyways...

How 'bout that Black Library?

Needs more Cadians.

You know the awesome thing about opinions?

Anyways...

Any sales figures available on how the new BL 'hardback' policy is working, or is it still too soon to tell?

I also found that 15 Hours was amazing. It depicts the generic grunt`s life in the imperial guard perfectly.

Cadian Blood was okay, but it's a bit generic, I thought. No really memorable characters. The ending was great though.

 Manchu wrote:
Dead Men Walking managed to take the 40k universe seriously without leaving the brand rails. It's still a 40k novel but it is without a doubt the most serious piece of writing in their catalog.

I had that feeling myself when reading Emperor's Mercy by Henry Zou, which started off with an donkey-cave protagonist, but had these glimmers of humanity nestled in there that I sorely missed in other novels.

 Manchu wrote:
Dead Men Walking managed to take the 40k universe seriously without leaving the brand rails. It's still a 40k novel but it is without a doubt the most serious piece of writing in their catalog.

I think 15 Hours managed to do this too.

Hell, maybe even Ice Guard. It wasn't the best IG story out there, but you can really see the terror of fighting the Tyranids illustrated in a way I haven't seen in any other novel featuring them.

 Just Dave wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:

 kronk wrote:
It's the best of the Space Marine Battles books, which isn't saying a lot, I know.

But it was well written, gritty, and ADB's first full 40k book (I believe). Also, I'm a big fan of the Black Templars.

Really? I heard battle for the fang was good.

Battle of The Fang is indeed good.

Supposedly the Iron Hands and Legion of the Damned books are pretty good, but not as much so as Helsreach (it seems) and Battle of the Fang are...


Pretty sure AD-B had one 40K novel before Helsreach... Edit: Yep, Cadian Blood.

Battle for the Fang was good, especially as it came out at the same time as Prospero Burns. Good reads together.

The Iron Hands book is ok, but portrays them pretty well.

Legion of the Damned was great, if you didn't want to read about Legion of the Damned. Because that's not what it's about. That'd be like buying the 6th Ed BRB and it being WFB rules. Oh, wait....

 Alpharius wrote:


Any sales figures available on how the new BL 'hardback' policy is working, or is it still too soon to tell?

I think aside from the financial implications it is going to kill some of the buzz on forums which spring up discussing the new releases. You will get some people having bought the hardback, everyone else saying 'dunno haven't read it yet', then 9 months later the first bunch of people saying 'that book is old news, and I've forgotten it'.

Personally I'm amazed the hardback/new release thing didn't happen a lot sooner. I'm sad the direct to softback has gone; yes it was a nice bonus but like any gift given freely it doesn't stop you from feeling miffed when it is taken away.

Hardbacks work, especially when all new releases are slowly but surely done as a hardback first.

It just shows they're feeling more secure regarding sales.

'Real' publishers always like to put out a hardback first (if they think something is going to sell), going direct to softback is for new authors or books they're unsure of.

They'll expect to many 'fans' of an author to buy the hardback, and then later buy a paperback too

more future releases.



http://www.amazon.de/Crusade-Wrath-George-Mann/dp/184970483X/ref=sr_1_18?s=books-intl-de&ie=UTF8&qid=1352990684&sr=1-18

As the xenos horror known as the tyranids spreads across the Imperium, High Marshal Helbrecht of the Black Templars declares a Crusade of Wrath against the alien monstrosities. Fifteen Space Marine Chapters gather to battle the beasts... but can they hope to combat the might of the hive mind? Three brand new audio dramas featuring the Black Templars, Salamanders and Raven Guard Space Marine Chapters.

http://www.amazon.de/Orion-Tears-Isha-Darius-Hinks/dp/1849702969/ref=sr_1_9?s=books-intl-de&ie=UTF8&qid=1352990838&sr=1-9

Winter approaches, and Orion leads the wild hunt one last time before he returns to his slumber. But a dark power is rising in the groves of Athel Loren, corrupting beasts and elves alike. As Orion’s servants hunt for a new host for the forest king’s spirit, the daemon Alkhor’s plan comes to fruition, threatening not only the wood elves but the forest itself.

Quite liked the 1st in this series, most definately a different feel for the WE than we've seen previously.


http://www.amazon.de/Death-Integrity-Space-Marine-Battles/dp/1849702985/ref=sr_1_10?s=books-intl-de&ie=UTF8&qid=1352990838&sr=1-10

After pursuing an insidious genestealer cult across the sector for years, Chapter Master Caedis of the Blood Drinkers stands ready to destroy the original source of the infection - the vast and mysterious space hulk designated Death of Integrity. However, immediately coming into conflict with both their brothers in the Novamarines Chapter and the priesthood of the Adeptus Mechanicus, the Blood Drinkers must reign in their more aggressive instincts and accept the possibility that the hulk itself may be of value to the Imperium...

old, old OLD fluff piece there !

http://www.amazon.de/Mark-Calth-Horus-Heresy/dp/1849704163/ref=sr_1_20?s=books-intl-de&ie=UTF8&qid=1352990927&sr=1-20

.. well// duh !

http://www.amazon.de/Lords-Mars-Graham-McNeill/dp/184970418X/ref=sr_1_21?s=books-intl-de&ie=UTF8&qid=1352990978&sr=1-21

book 2.

http://www.amazon.de/Seventh-Retribution-Ben-Counter/dp/1849704783/ref=sr_1_24?s=books-intl-de&ie=UTF8&qid=1352990978&sr=1-24

Captain Darnath Lysander, hero of the Imperial Fists, leads his brothers in an assault on a daemon world of Chaos. Beset by unimaginable horrors and tortured by memories of his time imprisoned on such a planet, Lysander must rally his Space Marines to defeat the master of the daemonic hordes before they are all consumed by Chaos.

First of a series AFAIK.

So loads of previews but any reviews? Don't you read these things like most folks drink water?

They're not out yet. Amazon gets the product information really early, long before the product is actually ready.

I don't mean the unreleased books, Kan. I think reds8n reads the ones that are released, however.

He usually gets them a month or so early, so he might have some.

After pursuing an insidious genestealer cult across the sector for years, Chapter Master Caedis of the Blood Drinkers stands ready to destroy the original source of the infection - the vast and mysterious space hulk designated Death of Integrity. However, immediately coming into conflict with both their brothers in the Novamarines Chapter and the priesthood of the Adeptus Mechanicus, the Blood Drinkers must reign in their more aggressive instincts and accept the possibility that the hulk itself may be of value to the Imperium...

old, old OLD fluff piece there !

http://www.amazon.de/Mark-Calth-Horus-Heresy/dp/1849704163/ref=sr_1_20?s=books-intl-de&ie=UTF8&qid=1352990927&sr=1-20

Is that to do with the Blood Drinker the Imperial Fist marines find, sans arms and legs and encased in plascrete, in the novel Space Marine?

Ya, a book "not being out yet" has never stopped reds8n before.

He's BFF with most, if not all of the current BL authors.

 BrookM wrote:
He's BFF with most, if not all of the current BL authors.

I envy him Men want to be him, women want to be with him, men do as well occasionally...

 reds8n wrote:
I'll be reading that book this week, if all goes to "plan".

Anyway...

.. http://astropate.blogspot.it/2012/11/black-library-horus-heresy-2013-e-2014.html

has further news from the recent weekender, nothing we haven't heard about already.

Most interested by thgis piece of artwork, which appears to me to be Guilliman saluting Sanguinius as the new Emperor, presumably thsi is from the unremembered Empire arc ?

declaring the new WARMASTER, not Emperor

Did BL clarify that?

 reds8n wrote:
more future releases.

http://www.amazon.de/Crusade-Wrath-George-Mann/dp/184970483X/ref=sr_1_18?s=books-intl-de&ie=UTF8&qid=1352990684&sr=1-18

As the xenos horror known as the tyranids spreads across the Imperium, High Marshal Helbrecht of the Black Templars declares a Crusade of Wrath against the alien monstrosities. Fifteen Space Marine Chapters gather to battle the beasts... but can they hope to combat the might of the hive mind? Three brand new audio dramas featuring the Black Templars, Salamanders and Raven Guard Space Marine Chapters.

That might be the first audio drama I buy.