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2012/11/17 12:51:22
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
Finished and enjoyed "The Great Betrayal" -- 1st of the war of vengeance/war of the beard series. I think Mr. Kyme's fantasy work is stronger than his 40k writing and I've enjoyed his previous dwarf stories a lot. He does seem to get them and is capable of injecting some humour in parts without making them ridiculous, which is where, IMO, some of the other authors stumble a wee bit at times.
There is, I gather, the odd mistake or change to the established history/timeline here and there, some of which -- names of strongholds and the like -- I'm not anal enough to have noted. I liked it, if you've enjoyed his other WFB books then I suspect you'll enjoy this too. Mr. Wraight is writing the other books in the series -- there will be 6 in total, 3 from each sides perspective -- with "master of dragons" out next year.
I can, do and will recommend without reservation his "Swords of the Emperor" series there, superb in every way.
Garro : sword of truth is the latest Garro audio book. 2 discs long the extra length helping a bit here IMO. This is pretty much the "origin story" of a certain World Eater marine whose featured previously. A nice tale that fits in well with the ongoing Garro tales and dovetails quite nicely with the recent White Scar limited edition book.
Siege of Castellax is the first SMB book to feature entirely non Imperial protaganists, featuring a full on battle between the Iron Warriors and the obligatory horde of greenskins. Werner is a good writer and knows what he's doing especially with dark/evil characters.. and there's no lack of them in here as the Iron warriors fight the enemy whilst plotting and scheming against each other as well. I still think that the Wolf and Iron Hand books are better in thsi series, but this is up there though, mainly due to the fine work he does with the obliterator . There's next to nothing from the orks POV in case you're wondering but as a diehard son of Perturabo myself I was happy enough.
Also read Sword of Caledor, 2nd in Mr. King's Tyrion/Teclis series. It was..... alright. Not bad, and I certainly burnt through it swiftly as Mr. King's prose is very readable indeed. He writes deftly, if you follow me. It's just... err.... well... things do happen, obviously, but it is very much book/scene 2 of a 3 book/arc drama so pieces and characters have to be moved to the relevant points for the grand finale. Which I am looking forwards too.
On reflection I think part of the issue here is the book is solid enough but isn't, to my mind, quite what was promised...
Tyrion – Unparalleled swordsman and tactician.
Teclis – Greatest natural sorcerer of the age, his power rivalling that of fabled Caledor.
Together these twins are the greatest high elf heroes to still walk the earth. Tyrion and Teclis venture into the deadly jungles of Lustria on a desperate hunt for the lost sword of Caledor Dragontamer, the fabled Sunfang. While they search for this ancient artefact, the dark elves continue their assault on Ulthuan, sending the deadly assassin Urian Poisonblade to kill the Everqueen. And in the Realm of Chaos, the Witch King Malekith makes a pact with another enemy of Tyrion and Teclis – the sinister daemon N’Kari.
is the blurb for the book. So I was expecting a fair bit of jungle related romps and excitement on/in Lustria, an area which is very evocative and the lizzies are sadly underused by BLIMO.
.. spoilered just in case I guess....
Spoiler:
3...
2..
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and yet the actual expedition is( neatly) wrapped up and delivered very swiftly in the opening few chapters. With 90% of the book taking place on Ulthuan, a place that, frankly, I'm actually starting to get a little blase or sick of maybe .
There's some nice character work and Malekith is suitably evil and imposing and so on, I think perhaps it just suffers a bit too much from this being an expansion of the background for these characters that Mr. King wrote back in the days of yore and there's been no twist or revealation, just a more long hand version of the story from a codex,
YMMV of course.
Angel Exterminatus isn't out in softback yet. I've glanced and skimmed a few select chapters and know enough to get the gist of what happens.
.. it's interesting enough but, once again, doesn't really seem to be a vital component with regards to the overall narrative of the HH. Readers of Mr. McNeill's earlier IW related books should get a few grins from some familar faces and origins that are revealed. Fabius is cool though.
I would also strongly suggest, if one gets the chance, that people should pick up Mr. Thorpe's "Ravenwing" novel ASAP. Nice follow on from his previous DA books..
..... Obviously one cannot be 100% sure here, but you know how, for example, Fall of Damnos had info and background on some of the new/then to be released Necron stuff ... and how some of the new chaos stuff was featured in the treacheries of the space marines book ? .. well..... then... there might be a few snippets in here that might, possibly, be along the same lines.
.. or not.
still.. won't be long eitehr way eh ?! till we know.
Right ?
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2012/11/17 13:39:11
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
The second Salamanders book certainly had a fair bit of new fluff on the Dark Eldar, who were due to arrive later that year.
But thanks for the write-up, I will be getting mr. Werner's SMB novel, as I do like most of his stuff, he's an excellent fantasy writer with Brunner and the Witch Hunter and in my humblest of opinions, ex-cell-ent Wulfrik novel, which did a fair bit of Chaos Dwarf previewing before FW released the models!
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2012/11/17 17:49:44
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
My brain tried to escape out of my ears when I read it, so my recollection may be fuzzy. I'm certainly not going to go back and read it. It was the last story I ever read in Hammer and Bolter.
2012/11/18 09:39:59
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
narked wrote: Also Flesh of Cretacia is only going to be hardback and ebook, no paperback release.
Not yet anyway. In one of the seminars on UK Games Day they said that they wanted to move towards releasing many/most/all (?) books as exclusive hardbacks through Black Library / Games Workshop (e.g. no Amazon, etc..). Once they've milked that, they will later put out paperbacks releases for the regular distribution.
Seems like they are going that way.
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Also, I've reviewed Soul Hunter. Oldie but goldie!
The full novels, yes. It might appear at some point in the future in an anthology, but other than that BL have already confirmed on Facebook that there are no current plans for a non-hardback/ebook release of Flesh of Cretacia.
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AFAIK it's a straight reprint of the 2 previous books of that ilk.
.. Flesh of hardtospell.... ... hmm.. well. IT's an alright story, the odd nice touch here and there and builds nicely on the glimpses we've had of some of the characters in the BAHH novel.
But I don't think it quite justifies the pricetag. I'd much rather we'd seen a Flesh Tearer SMB book in the regular format of that series than this, alas.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2012/11/19 13:16:36
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
I don't know why Flesh of Cretacia is hardback only but, also unlike every other SMB novel so far, it's also a BL-exclusive. I still haven't received my copy but will get to reading/reviewing as soon as I get it.
You know it's only a novella yeah ? It's not a full length novel. Guessetimate it to be little more than 100 odd pages of story.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2012/11/19 15:09:15
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
I can assure you that not all of those 128 pages are full or contain story.
The colour plates in the centre are,as per usual, somewhat "meh".
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2012/11/19 16:04:24
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
It is ( production wise) nigh on identical to the DV novella.
.... I think this is a better story but in fairness the DV novella was quite literally a tie-in release.
Currently it'd take something ( or someone) a bit special to make me pick up another book in in this format.
YMMV of course, but for me this wasn't worth £12.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2012/11/19 18:14:16
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread III, that awkward third title.
Yeah, bad syntax on my part. My main point was, I didn't think Flesh of Cretacia indicated BL going with a hardback policy toward the SMB novel line considering that it's also a BL exclusive. As far as pages/price, it was a splurge for me -- but as you know I am excited to read about the Flesh Tearers so ... *shrug*
Has anyone been closely following H&B? Seems one can get a year's worth of digital issues from BL for 40USD. Or is the "best of" physical book a better deal all around?
I liked it, if you've enjoyed his other WFB books then I suspect you'll enjoy this too. Mr. Wraight is writing the other books in the series -- there will be 6 in total, 3 from each sides perspective -- with "master of dragons" out next year.
. There's next to nothing from the orks POV in case you're wondering but as a diehard son of Perturabo myself I was happy enough.
Nice follow on from his previous 
