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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/30 15:34:48
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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very minor setback. Luckily we caught it early. Got the masters back for the vigilance committee and mexicans. The wider brims on the sombreros didn't work out, once the molds were made the hats were all bent and folded. Some of them may have been passable, or fixable with greenstuff (The FineCast Way), but I want everything to be perfect so I it's back to the molding board. Iron Wind is going to have their sculptor touch up the hats and thicken them a little so that they won't bend next time. So this means I won't get the new masters till next week. However, they have a break in their schedule next week and if all goes well thats when the production figs will happen if all goes well with the new masters
In the meantime, the sheriff, doctor and susana all came out OK, so I'll be painting those masters up in the meantime. Have to prime tonight while there's a break in humidity. There was also some bending with the tabs under the feet, but I didn't think that was really a big deal. Most of them are too long to fit in the slots in the bases anyway because of the foot positions, so I figure most folks will be trimming them or chopping them off anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/30 16:17:22
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Thanks for the update!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/30 18:05:12
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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So, the sombreros bent during the molding process, or after they were molded?
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Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/30 18:09:49
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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They were OK when they made the molds, I think when they made the master figures the sombreros curled up as the metal cooled. Also happened to the hat on the deputy that's kneeling with the 2 pistols out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/30 20:57:18
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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So, they don't cool the metal in the mold?
Eric
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Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/30 21:12:01
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Not sure, that's what I was assuming happened. But the way I've seen em done is ya pour the metal into the spin caster thingy, then it makes the figs, then you pop em out and throw em in the bins. At any rate, they'll fix em up for me and everything is still pretty much on track.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/31 19:42:36
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Planning out all the new figures that will be a part of the Kickstarter. Should give an idea of what the figures will be equipped with and the professions. I'm planning to have 1 artist do all 3 concepts for a pack, and the same sculptor do all 3 figures for a pack, so everything will match better  I know the styles were a little mixed in the first few starters, but I'm going to try to minimize that going forward.
Clancy Gang
Uncle Zeke - Prospector - miners pick, rifle
Jacki Bower - Henchman - burning bottle of booze, pistol
Hugh Brockett - Henchman - hatchet, pistol
Clayton Borey - Doctor - 2 pistols, bowie knife
Elinor Clancy - henchman - rifle, bowie knife
Mathew Eppley - henchman - 2 pistols
Cody Clancy - Gambler - pistol, 2 bowie knives
Annabelle Taub - henchman - 2 knuckledusters, pistol
Darren Bettcher - henchman - dynamite, pistol
Vigilance Committee
Christian Kluge - Gambler - rifle, tomahawk
Lorrie Shakes - henchman - shotgun, 2 small knives
Erik Petrin - henchman - bowie knife, pistol
Fernando Groman - Gunslinger - rifle, 2 pistols
Jayna Bower - henchman - 2 pistols
Kendrick Menders - henchman - 2 tomahawks, pistol
Darius Carlisle - Wrassler - dueling sabre, tomahawk, rifle
Carey Julius - henchman - Burning bottle of booze, 2 pistols
Ela Mitchell - henchman - 2 knuckledusters, pistol
Bandidos Mexicanos
Carlos Termino - doctor - rifle, machette
Juana Hevas Archuleta - henchman - axe, pistol
Ernesto Navarro - henchman - 2 pistols
Ramirez Estrada - Prospector - miners pick, shotgun
Osvaldo Sanchez - henchman - dynamite, pistol
Emilio Velazquez - henchman - pistol, machette
Liliana Carrillo - Gunslinger - 2 pistols, bowie knife
Jose Diaz - henchman - rifle, machette
Miguel Lopez Avila - henchman - rifle, hatchet
Bloodwolf Tribe
Hunteress - Bounty Hunter - shotgun, rifle, 2 tomahawks
Axeman - henchman - 2 tomahawks, throwing knives
Backstabber - henchman - 2 bowie knives, burning bottle of booze
The Cheat - Gambler - 2 pistols, tomahawk
Feathers (female) - Henchman - rifle, tomahawk
Longcoat - Henchman - 2 pistols, dynamite
Miss Chopper - Wrassler - large 2-handed axe/tomahawk, pistol
Sixguns - Henchman - 2 pistols
The Marksman - Henchman - rifle
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/01 18:07:11
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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Posts with Authority
South Carolina (upstate) USA
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Is there gonna be any Brother Vinni action on the new stuff?
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Whats my game?
Warmachine (Cygnar)
10/15mm mecha
Song of Blades & Heroes
Blackwater Gulch
X wing
Open to other games too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/01 18:37:44
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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yep! I'll be sending a bunch his way along with the other sculptors too  Going to give each sculptor 3 at a time so their whole set will have the same look & feel. And this way just doing like 3 per month or so will be better than 6 in 2 months, so I don't have to wait as long to get the greens. Figured this way I can have a kind of steady stream of new releases for retail instead of just one big splash release then nothing for months.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 03:05:12
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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One of your Bandidos henchmen should be names Carlos "Huevos" Ranchero.
Really looking forward to some of these sets.
Eric
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Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/03 17:30:44
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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Dankhold Troggoth
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The plan looks cool, Necros
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/04 17:19:06
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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Posts with Authority
South Carolina (upstate) USA
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Necros wrote:yep! I'll be sending a bunch his way along with the other sculptors too  Going to give each sculptor 3 at a time so their whole set will have the same look & feel. And this way just doing like 3 per month or so will be better than 6 in 2 months, so I don't have to wait as long to get the greens. Figured this way I can have a kind of steady stream of new releases for retail instead of just one big splash release then nothing for months.
Sweet, sounds like a solid plan.
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Whats my game?
Warmachine (Cygnar)
10/15mm mecha
Song of Blades & Heroes
Blackwater Gulch
X wing
Open to other games too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/09 23:12:20
Subject: Re:Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Howdy folks! Today I have a couple of things to share.
First off, we now have a French translation of our rules available. These were translated by BWG fan Flavien Champenois. It’s actually the previous version of our rulebook, but as many of you know the rules are pretty much the same with just a few minor changes. You can click here to download the French rules. It's both the rulebook and optional campaign rules.
Next I wanted to share some photos of the newer models. Here are 4 of the Vigilance Committee and 1 of the Bandidos Mexicanos. Gramps Fillickson, Martin Williams, Rick Dawson, Dr. Trent Dougall and Susana la Loba.
Just 5 more figures to finish painting and then we can get the boxes all printed up! Almost there…!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/10 00:42:21
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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Dankhold Troggoth
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Wow, love the doc!
You do all the painting yourself, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/10 01:20:48
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Yeah, I'm painting everything for now. At first I was going to have Golem paint everything, but we ended up with so many delays that I didn't want to add an even longer wait to get everything released. Just mailing the figs back and for the to the UK would be an extra 2-3 weeks alone.
Eventually though we'll have them do the official paint jobs once we get off the ground and can plan out the new releases better. I'll probably have the do the official paint jobs for the booster packs in the next kickstarter
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 13:55:44
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Getting concepts started for the characters that will be in the next Kickstarter. Here's the Clancy Gang prospector Uncle Zeke and one of his henchmen, Hugh Brocket. Hugh lost his hand to a mining accident, so he'll have a variety of extra appendages attached to his belt for easy access
These were done by Wayne O'Connor. These are just preliminary sketches for now.
Tonight or tomorrow I should be getting some sketches for the vigilance committee too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 13:57:04
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Can't wait to see how they turn out.
How's the painting coming along?
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 14:02:05
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Getting there.. 2 down 3 to go  should have them done this weekend so next week we'll be able to get the boxes going. I have the clancy and bloodwolf box files done already, but we have to wait and print everything at the same time or else it'll be real expensive.. same with the cards :/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 14:07:29
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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I hear ya, no rush. So are those boxes still going to be all fancy with the foam on the inside or am I recalling a different thread?
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 14:20:45
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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We were going to go with the plastic mantic boxes at first, but when all was said and done they were just too bulky and cost too much to ship from the UK. So now it's going to be a cardstock box about the same size as GW's, and we'll have foam sheets inside to keep everything in place. The foam was cheaper than getting a vacuum formed plastic insert thing made, and we figured people could reuse the foam if they want, for transporting their minis and stuff
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 14:22:36
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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Old Sourpuss
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Just a quick question, are you still pushing things out for kickstarter backers or are you having things for sale for those of us that didn't get in on this?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 14:32:33
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Both  We'll be shipping out the old Kickstarter orders first, then everything will be available on our online store and in FLGSes. But, also in the new Kickstarter we do we'll have the original starter sets available too.
So, if you're impatient you can buy them online as soon as they're available, or you can jump in on Kickstarter #2 and get them a month later with some free goodies too  We'll probably be launching the new campaign at the very end of the month, or beginning of Oct. We want to make sure we have the orders for the original campaign under way first.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 14:38:17
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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^This. I missed out on this Kickstarter (I... didn't understand what it was back then... how things change fast these days) but some of those models are gorgeous. And Necros sounds like a good chap, so I'd like to get on that wagon.
I'm on a roll this morning. Jokemeister that I am.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 14:47:38
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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Martial Arts SAS
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Mathieu Raymond wrote:^This. I missed out on this Kickstarter (I... didn't understand what it was back then... how things change fast these days) but some of those models are gorgeous. And Necros sounds like a good chap, so I'd like to get on that wagon.
+ 1
When is the next kickstarter =)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 14:50:20
Subject: Re:Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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Fixture of Dakka
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I just clicked your banner.
Those buildings are way, way, way superior to... others we know of.
I think I might buy the £45 starter kit as a graduation gift (yes, I learned overnight that I will be an officially licensed teacher)
Do you have american distribution on those buildings? Intellectually, I am all for the concept of VAT, but my poorer student wallet right now doesn't likey.
Also, plans for single houses?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 14:52:53
Subject: Re:Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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http://www.sarissa-precision.co.uk/store/oldwestHR/
Worth considering I think =)
Edit : changed link for the heroic range
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 15:14:52
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Those buildings aren't made by me, they're by Battle Flag in the UK. We just gave them permission to use the name and make some of their buildings with signs that reference different things in the game's fluff. The hotel is my favorite, but it's HUGE
GameCraft makes some really nice buildings, we sold a lot of them in our first Kickstarter. And Sarissa is good too. But if you go with Sarissa make sure you get the "heroic" kind or they might look too small.
We will have add-on building bundles in the next Kickstarter though. One will be a Battle Flag bundle with a gallows and some other goodies, and the other will be a GamCraft bundle with a couple of buildings. I think will be a $60 add-on item, but you get lots of stuff. If you order the BF bundle, they will ship them to you, but the GameCraft bundle will come from us.. that's just because BF is in the UK and decided it would be easier if they ship the bundles themselves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 15:15:22
Subject: Re:Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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http://blackwatergulch.com/blog/2012/09/new-concept-art-kickstarter-coming-soon/
We’re planning a new Kickstarter campaign around the end of September or beginning of October. I posted some details here and there in our message boards, but a lot of details have changed a bit. The goal will be to get the funding to make a series of new figures for each gang, and if it’s really successful we’ll be able to add new gangs too. Each of the 4 main gangs will get 3 “Support Packs” of 3 models each, 9 new figures per gang and 36 new figures total if all goes well. Each set will feature one of the professions not in a gang’s starter set, so in the end a full gang would be 14 members with 1 of each profession and a nice selection of henchmen for the cannon fodder every gang needs!
So, now I’m starting to get new concept art done for the characters that will be in the next Kickstarter. Here’s the the first 2 for the Clancy Gang, Uncle Zeke the prospector and one of his henchmen, Hugh Brocket. Hugh lost his hand to a mining accident, so he’ll have a variety of extra appendages attached to his belt for easy access 
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 15:29:52
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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I eagerly await the introduction of the Fantastic to your gameworld and system...
I'll still definitely jump in on the next Kickstarter - need those 'regulars' after all, plus some nice buildings and terrain.
But I'm really looking forward to... the Other Stuff!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 16:14:30
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News & Previews
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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We'll be getting into the weird west stuff soon  In fact if the new Kickstarter gets high enough we'll start adding some creatures and new professions like Engineers and Monster Hunters as stretch goals. It will have to be pretty high though since we want to get the main gangs fleshed out and start doing our new gangs too.
But if we don't get high enough, that stuff will all go in Kickstarter #3 for the boxed game next year
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