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this is very interesting.

How far or close do you intend to stick to history/reality.


For example do you plan to have subtle fantasy like wild wild west style or just stay true the real world?

It's more historical, but fictional. More along the lines of what you'd see in the movies than real history. Not really "wierd west" like games like Deadlands or steampunk, I felt like that's kind of already been done.

I wouldn't expect a history lesson from the game, just fun shootouts

I am actually very tempting to actually fund a kickstarter. That mini looks cool! Maybe if my taxes come in soon!

I always do my taxes as soon as I possibly can, and I already spent my tax return getting sculpts done hehe

just had my first backer! woohoo!

Donated! Looking forward to seeing this take off!

Thanks!!

3 backers now

Okay you talked me into it, I got my pledge in!

edit: Are the models going to resin or metal? Resin would be mighty awesome for sure.

They'll be metal models actually. A lot more affordable and easy to start out that way.

Some day I hope to be able to do multi part plastic cowboys & indians but, baby steps...


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$1000+ in the first 12 hours almost a third of the way there.. yay!

Sad you weren't able to be at Cold Wars so I could play a demo, but I downloaded the rules a week or so ago and they look great. Was glad to see the kickstarter and jumped right in!

Any thoughts on what might happen if you totally smash your initial goal?

I wish I had 500 dollars

Alfndrate wrote:I wish I had 500 dollars

I wish I had a 1000.... I have a great idea for a faction that would fit right in with the theme! (they could be part of a future expansion, what do I know)

Glad to support your efforts and get some cool swag in the process.

Thanks! I hope to make it out to other cons when I can, next year when I have a real product line going I'm planning to do the bigger ones like GenCon and Adepticon. I've just never really been much of the con-going type till now, so I just don't know which ones are out there and/or worth going to, etc. I'm looking into NJcon, might do that one.

I do have plans for "stretch goals" too, after I reach the first goal, the next one will be $6000 to do a 3rd box set with a Native American themed gang/tribe. After that, $9000 for mexicans, after that I'd be focusing on add-on blister packs of extra figures to go with each gang, and other themes too like a 2 pack of "town drunks" or "gold miners", etc. I still have other plans for other box sets, but I think having these 4 will make a good starting point. But anyway, in the podcasts I listened to and other research I did, they say you should just focus on the main goal at first and then update the kickstarter page with the new ones after you beat your goal. Don't know why, but I figured I'd follow their lead

And, you can still suggest a character or gang if you like, but I can't promise it will make it into the game. Only the backers that show me the money would be guaranteed But anyway that said, probably a good 75% of the game was built around suggestions from fans, so if someone has a really great idea it definitely won't be ignored


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Just checked it again, almost half way there!


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And now it's past 50%! whee!

I'll be pretty psyched if we can reach the goal within 24 hours

I wish there had been more ways to get the hardcover rulebook...

You can still get the book if you like. I added that to the FAQ at the bottom.

Basically everything is $30. The box sets, 2 buildings or the rulebook. So you can swap out stuff if you want, like if you did $90 you could get both box sets and a rulebook instead of the 2 buildings. I didn't want to add too many different backer levels or have multiples of the same price point and make things confusing, so at the end I was going to contact everyone individually and ask them what they want exactly for the money they spent. They can just take the default, or change things up if they want to.

Necros wrote:You can still get the book if you like. I added that to the FAQ at the bottom.

Basically everything is $30. The box sets, 2 buildings or the rulebook. So you can swap out stuff if you want, like if you did $90 you could get both box sets and a rulebook instead of the 2 buildings. I didn't want to add too many different backer levels or have multiples of the same price point and make things confusing, so at the end I was going to contact everyone individually and ask them what they want exactly for the money they spent. They can just take the default, or change things up if they want to.

I'll probably just bump my contribution up to the next level so I get the signed rulebook.... Once I figure out how to do it, it looks like I can change my contribution and reward independantly.

Yep, not sure how it's done exactly, but some other folks have upped their contributions, so it's in there somewhere.

Apparently I just had to adjust both the contrabution and the reward to the approriate level. Enjoy my monies!

Also do you happen to have a link to that terrain?

Yep, here is their wild west page:
http://store.gcmshop.com/category/127-28mm-wild-west.aspx

They make stuff for other genres too. Nice, cheap and sturdy. I own a few of their kits already and I'll be selling their buildings individually in my online store soon too.

Later on tonight I'll be updating the kickstarter page with some photos of the buildings.

There wildwest stuff looks awsome.

yeah, and it smells like a campfire too

So far I got the big saloon, 1 of the 2 story buildings and the gallows for myself. You have to glue on all of the window and door frames and railings, and the kits are packed in plain plastic bags with no instructions, but they don't really need them, it's all pretty easy to figure out. I just used plain old white/pva glue

Sarissa is another company that does great wood buildings too, but they're in the UK so I went with GameCraft, easier shipping, etc since they're in the US. I'll eventually add Sarissa's buildings to my store too when they get their wholesale stuff all set up probably in April or so.

Awesome, I'm loving all the Kickstarters cropping up lately. I'm not a huge wild-west theme fan, but you almost have me reaching for my Amazon Payments already

A couple tips on the Kickstarter page itself:
- I would add a direct link to your rules .pdf, because they are really quite good and with excellent production values as well. That always makes people more comfortable about where their money is going. Though... is that a ladies posterior on the cover?
- I would add an image of the game in progress so people can see the miniatures and terrain all painted up and enticing.

Necros wrote:Thanks! I hope to make it out to other cons when I can, next year when I have a real product line going I'm planning to do the bigger ones like GenCon and Adepticon. I've just never really been much of the con-going type till now, so I just don't know which ones are out there and/or worth going to, etc. I'm looking into NJcon, might do that one.

First off, congrats on getting so far so fast.

Secondly, we have done a lot of cons. Too many it feels like at times... But if I had to cut back, and we probably will be, GAMA Trade Show, Adepticon, and Gencon are on my 'Always Do' list.

I just have to add... I found a typo in your rules...

sparkywtf wrote:I just have to add... I found a typo in your rules...

OMG refund everyone quick !!

Seriously though, good luck man, nice original idea and seems well executed, i hope it goes well for you.

Cyporiean wrote:First off, congrats on getting so far so fast.

Secondly, we have done a lot of cons. Too many it feels like at times... But if I had to cut back, and we probably will be, GAMA Trade Show, Adepticon, and Gencon are on my 'Always Do' list.

Thanks, those were the ones I was thinking of.. also what about Origins? or is that more like a video game con now?

sparkywtf wrote:I just have to add... I found a typo in your rules...

I've been fixing typos in that thing since day 1 hehe .. where was it? I can update it real quick.

Some day when I'm able to get a big rulebook made, I'll hire a proofreader


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Oh and.. yay! less than 1000 to go I already posted some details on the first stretch goal, if I can get to $6000 I'll do a 3rd box set for a native american gang. Getting the concept art done right now and hopefully that will be done in the next couple of days.

Rayvon wrote:

sparkywtf wrote:I just have to add... I found a typo in your rules...

OMG refund everyone quick !!

Seriously though, good luck man, nice original idea and seems well executed, i hope it goes well for you.

I would like a refund from my free download!

Necros wrote:

I've been fixing typos in that thing since day 1 hehe .. where was it? I can update it real quick.

Some day when I'm able to get a big rulebook made, I'll hire a proofreader

It is on page 5, in the enemies section. At the end you forgot an "a" in games.

Oh, and, I did add an image of a game board at the very bottom. I'm also about to add some pics of the gamecraft buildings

And for the rules, I wanted to send people to the whole website first to get the rules, so they can check out other stuff like the cards, or campaign test rules, etc. I was just thinking if they go to the actual site they can see that it's legit and the game is already out there.


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Thanks I'll fix the typo there's probably a bunch more in there too, every time I update it I find more.

I cna spel gud!

Heck.. come to Origins.. pretty close to PA, mate!

Plus, I am there every year.. (well, I think that is a plus)..

-P