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I have not messed with my models for a long time now, but coincidentally I was about to pick it up again.

Shall be nice to see what you come up with this time.

The left leg of the converted-bolter-marine appears to have a bigger than average chunk of plasticard on it. Have you increased the standard height of your guys further still or is it special just for him?

Many of these Marines are made with parts that are over a decade old. I've stripped, then disassembled many old Marines I had back in the day. That's why there's so much differentiation in the color of plastic on the parts, because I just assemble them with whatever bits are convenient at the time.

His leg snapped as I was cutting it, requiring me to file both sides down flat. The extra thickness was just me using a 1.5mm spacer to account for the missing material I had to remove during repairs.

Yes, yes, YES, YES, YES, YES YES!

Hey Vet Sarge.

I have some bikers here that I have no fething idea of what to do with.

They look... Bad when they are so tiny, but if I truescale them, the bikes will look tiny instead, and the bikers won't even fit into them!

Got any ideas on tackling this problem?

I'm in the same boat!

I've got a lot of truescale marines, and I've got truescale vehicles (Rhino based only for now!) to go along with them, but bikes...

It can be done though:



http://masteroftheforge.com/2010/09/29/artscale-space-marine-bike/

Looks a bit Orky to me (But then, I am a CSM player, might work anyway) but I am nowhere near that skill level with GS.

I'm not sure I'd buy the extra toughness from a bike like that, it looks very pretty but the marine is more exposed and there's less bike to absorb incoming fire. It's very pretty though

That's where your suspension of disbelief is going to stop?!?

Looks good, definitely not orky.

This is orky....


The problem comes with true scale, not making it bigger, but making the marine fit, that bike looks brilliant, but yeah the marine looks a bit big for his seated position. I wish I had half that skill with GS though, and once painted that will look amazing.

I've never been a huge fan of the "Space Marines on motorcycles" thing. Just doesn't really fit with my vision of the 40K aesthetic. I have a few I bought in the long-long ago when that model first came out, but never played much with them. They're really low on my priority list so I hadn't much planned for them yet.

I'd imagine you could extend the bike slightly to account for the longer legs.

My concern is what I'm going to do with my Land Speeders. I've got 4 of them to do, but I need to figure out how I'm going to work the tall scaling, or if it is worth it. Hence why they aren't done yet, lol.

As little of the legs a you can see.... maybe just do the torso stretch and the magic you do with the arms? Probably not realistic enough for you, its what I'd do but I'm a bit lazy.

I may have to try some tall guys again ala kill team.

Good call on the Landspeeder issue - that is a tough one...

You could just enclose it entirely like the Tempest.

 Alpharius wrote:
Good call on the Landspeeder issue - that is a tough one...

what IS your avatar? anyway.
that bike looks awesome.

The best way I would think of is using plastic cards to extend the chassis of the landspeeder and a bit of work with GS. Little patience is required for this....but seeing your work....I think you'll have this covered up np

I am with Grimdork, Just extend the torso and arms. My only issue would be the roof line then. And I am with you on SM bikes, they have their uses but don't fit with the ethos for me, maybe only scout bikes.

 the shrouded lord wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Good call on the Landspeeder issue - that is a tough one...

what IS your avatar? anyway.

My avatar is a closeup of the #1 Alpha Legion operative currently active in the [censored] segmentum:

 plastictrees wrote:
You could just enclose it entirely like the Tempest.

Seems like cheating, lol.

 scipunk wrote:
The best way I would think of is using plastic cards to extend the chassis of the landspeeder and a bit of work with GS. Little patience is required for this....but seeing your work....I think you'll have this covered up np

This may be the way it ends up happening.

The height shouldn't be a big issue. If it is, I may cheat and only raise the torso by 1mm instead of 1.5mm. Sitting down, it shouldn't really be noticeable.

The good news is that the legs are extended off the "seat" plate. So I can actually extend them fairly easily. Seems like a huge waste of time for a detail almost nobody will notice. But of course I'm going to do it anyway.

I am still thinking of whether to pick apart my 20 Raptors and truescale them as well.

The way their bases are designed is cool, but it makes them wobbly as feth. Could always stick a weight under the base or something I suppose.

Are you going to truescale some ASMs?

What's an ASM? Assault Marines? There's a squad of them buried in there somewhere a few pages back. They all need to be redone at some point to get the extra leg spacing so I'm going to revisit how I did them.

Assault Marines are an interesting challenge. They have a ton of potential, but it's also really easy to make silly looking ones too.

ASM = Assault Space Marine, indeed.

And very much so.

1. vet sarge, do you have any suggestions as to what to do with close combat weapons, knives and stuff>
2. nooo alpharious has changed his/her avatar back to boring.

In what sense? Normally I just have them stashed over the shoulder (where they'd be out of the way).

In terms of combat poses, I prefer for the models to look like they're actually doing something with them. So I am very sparing with those types of elements. I have the drawing motion guy, and the head-taking guy, and the cross-drawing guy.

The decision has to be based on what effect you're trying to have. Dramatic? Heroic? Gritty? Most of mine are what you would call "gritty", I'm looking for poses that evoke a sense of a real Space Marine in a real battle. A lot of people like comic-book-hero poses instead. there's no right or wrong way to do it. I just don't feel like guys would be carrying combat blades or the such with the intention of just "looking cool" or menacing at people with it.

This thread is filled to the brim with realism and easy conversions, this is amazing.

I'd been discussing the fact that I had several Land Speeders to do, and how that would affect the scale project. So I set out to see how that could be accomplished. Turned out easier than I thought.

Though I must say I hate the Landspeeder kit. Maybe mine are just so old that they've warped to time or poor storage, but the chassis parts of this kit fits together ridiculous poorly. A lot of cleanup will be needed on this model just from having to re-glue portions of it. That said, it turned out pretty decent.



Of course, you're asking... are they tall scale too? Of course they are, lol.


What purpose does this serve? None. Just for completeness I guess.

"But you can't even see the legs!" Yeah.

The gunner is not peranently attached, so that he can be rotated along the guide-rail for the mount. You can see the interior details here, including the sidearms for the crew, and the spare box of ammunition for the heavy bolter.



Front on shot. You can see the pilots sit a little above the roof-line, but not too much. Both pilots have supplementary targeter heads to interface better with their heavy weapons.

Brilliant work.

Looks pretty solid. I don't think I'll ever get back to my space marines so I'll just appreciate this whole Tall Scale stuff from far

Looks awesome. I love the Fact you did the drivers. Now do it to a stormraven.

 the shrouded lord wrote:
Looks awesome. I love the Fact you did the drivers. Now do it to a stormraven.

They're just too ugly.

I'd played with making Valkyravens and Vulturetalons (you can see the 1st efforts a few pages back), but I ended up shelving the project for the short term. I kinda like the Storm Eagles, but they need a lot of work to fix their fight-worthiness issues (their centers of lift and centers of thrust are pretty off, lol). I'd be okay converting them, but the other thing that puts me off is the poor quality reputation the kit has and the price (especially given the QC issues, lol).

I agree on the points concerning the landspeeder kits. They're wonky and warped. Given the level of detail GW is able to put into most of its kits, there doesn't seem like there's an excuse for this.

That said, I like the down turned missile pods and think you've done a marvelous job knocking this kit together.