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hmm... well... before you make any crucial decisions... make a smaller units model and then see if you still have that akward feeling you now imply...

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
hmm... well... before you make any crucial decisions... make a smaller units model and then see if you still have that akward feeling you now imply...

I do intend on doing just such.

good man

Maybe if you find another colour that goes well with the orange you have used. The grey being neutral leaves your options open as there's only the orange that you have to work with.

Maybe that's the issue, you only have one colour. You need a second, spot colour to add contrast.

Have a play about with colours and shades and see if something grabs you.

Blue/purple works well with orange.
As can green, but that can greatly change the whole look of the model.

i agree... a bright blue would be the best match... and it still would keep the tron like look...in a way...

Why not bone color, that would look nice I guess looking at the white legs.... Even Icy blue

Dr H wrote:Maybe if you find another colour that goes well with the orange you have used. The grey being neutral leaves your options open as there's only the orange that you have to work with.

Maybe that's the issue, you only have one colour. You need a second, spot colour to add contrast.

Have a play about with colours and shades and see if something grabs you.

Blue/purple works well with orange.
As can green, but that can greatly change the whole look of the model.

Hmm, but what to add and where to add it! I can see why i was tempted to add the gold now because i want more going on with the model. It seems to diluted. I will finish this paint job as it, but it already has a spray disaster on it (really thick primer in some spots) and I am not in love with this paint scheme. Was a fun idea, Choosing the knight as the first model now seems in contrast a mistake as his fate seems to suggest the bucket of hate.

Viktor von Domm wrote:i agree... a bright blue would be the best match... and it still would keep the tron like look...in a way...

Where where/how to add it?

SelvaggioSaky wrote:Why not bone color, that would look nice I guess looking at the white legs.... Even Icy blue

Bone colour appeals to me a lot, but now i want to do a bone/gold scheme with BLUE ICEY BLUE HIGH LIGHTS as like spirit energy and stuff. But orange works too for avatar reasons.. but grey and orange are so pretty... I HAVE PAINTERS DELMA. To much of a pallet to work with.

Sel, you work with orange and grey, it is striking supported by a green and metal
Vik - you seem to be the rainbow, but usually a red and yellow with brass
Dr H - you use a lovely shaded blue and many other little colors to contrast and support the vehicle.

I know this paint scheme once complete will be dull. I don't know what to add, I don't know if I like this grey any more. Especially because selv has given me new ideas.

I am not inspired to do something like this.

Hmmm, I wonder if silver would work more than gold?

I feel your pain Panda. When I'm stuck on a colour scheme I tend to go into a reference/inspiration mode where I'll search the internet and the gallery on DDakka for pictures of similar craft/models and similar colour schemes and see what others have used in addition to the main colours and where the secondary colours are positioned.

As you mentioned my WS I'll try and give some insight as to the decisions I made;
The shading came about as I'd seen a few people using zenthial (?) highlighting and shading of large flat surfaces of vehicles to add extra interest to an otherwise boring area of a model.

Once I'd settled on blue for the upper hull I needed to decide what to do the lower hull and was torn between a contrasting colour (or a light colour as the blue is relatively dark) or a colour that would work with it but not contrast as strongly (which is what I went with, a darker purple).

And then for the markings I needed a colour (or colours) that would work with both the blue and purple. For this I chose red (as it contrasts nicely with blue and works together with the purple as it's a component of the mixture along with blue) and I chose yellow (as that strongly contrasts with purple, I read somewhere that yellow makes purple look more purple, and purple make yellow look more yellow. It also works with the blue I chose, which I knew from the Subaru Impreza rally car model I had made, that used the same metallic blue)

So for your's, if you decide to use another colour, you could add markings like I did on the WS, e.g. a warning ring around the jet intakes/exhausts (done in blue that could be quite striking) or other "go faster stripes"-like markings (a ring around a leg or something...

Or use the colour where you were thinking of using the gold...

You want something to break up the grey but work with the orange...

There was many points where I wasn't sure about the colours I'd just painted on my WS (and on nearly every other model I've done). Have a look around for inspiration, or practice on another model or scrap of plastic... All is not lost.

well if you are willing to drop the tron scheme at all... then totally go bone with ice blue accents...like the biel tan scheme only replaced by fiew parts in blue...more like hinting the blue as you stated it already ... in essence more like a ghost of an eldar army...i think i not really explained that good enough what i was thinking...


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a bit like this...only replace the green with blue...with glazes this could look awesome...





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or these but with less blue... just as i said faded blue to bone or even white...

@ Dr H thanks your in put is fantastic.

@Vik yours as well, although I don't know if you are helping.

@shas, silver would be in my opinion quite striking. But alas I'm unsure. Going to do a wraith guard test model here. See what happens.

Having second thoughts on the paint scheme? Consider this, go to the paint rack at your FLGS or wherever and pick out a few colors you like. Don't worry about whether they are "eldary". If you like the colors the model will work. There are some really pale greens out there now. GW Loren forest with Celestra Gray accents? That's what I was going to use if I decide on eldar.

hmmm... I really wish that there was another Eldar army that used grey and orange as it's scheme that used a few spot colours to brighten things up with...

http://www.dakkadakka.com/core/gallery-search.jsp?p=1&u=23173&g=20559&ll=3&auction=0&unapproved=0&coolnesslow=0&coolnesshigh=10&paintjoblow=0&paintjobhigh=10&sort1=7&sort2=0&skip=30&en=&st=&utype=&start=30

(that should hopefully link you to page 2 of the gallery, as there's the most range of models on there, but the other pages might be handy too)

If you want Tron, maybe try your army with the basic grey base, and then have a range of glow highlights?

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/190417-The%20Hornet.html?m=2

feel free to steal any ideas you want : )

 Viktor von Domm wrote:


or these but with less blue... just as i said faded blue to bone or even white...

I'd agree with this, but maybe with the blue it looks like a nice scheme.

 cormadepanda wrote:


@Vik yours as well, although I don't know if you are helping.

well that´s where your mistaken... I am not here to help you, but instead through mischief gain entertainment

and at finnan ...awesome models...and that paintscheme looks incredible...!

40kFSU wrote:Having second thoughts on the paint scheme? Consider this, go to the paint rack at your FLGS or wherever and pick out a few colors you like. Don't worry about whether they are "eldary". If you like the colors the model will work. There are some really pale greens out there now. GW Loren forest with Celestra Gray accents? That's what I was going to use if I decide on eldar.

Hmm, grey and orange, i dont really know if i am in love with these colours we will see what i can do.

finnan wrote:hmmm... I really wish that there was another Eldar army that used grey and orange as it's scheme that used a few spot colours to brighten things up with...

http://www.dakkadakka.com/core/gallery-search.jsp?p=1&u=23173&g=20559&ll=3&auction=0&unapproved=0&coolnesslow=0&coolnesshigh=10&paintjoblow=0&paintjobhigh=10&sort1=7&sort2=0&skip=30&en=&st=&utype=&start=30

(that should hopefully link you to page 2 of the gallery, as there's the most range of models on there, but the other pages might be handy too)

If you want Tron, maybe try your army with the basic grey base, and then have a range of glow highlights?

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/190417-The%20Hornet.html?m=2

feel free to steal any ideas you want : )

Your are awesome, i was trying to find your blog for inspiration yet you arrive from the gates of heaven themselves! thanks, I may change scheme completely i am not feeling the grey any more. :( your work is still inspiring never the less.

Viktor von Domm wrote:

 cormadepanda wrote:


@Vik yours as well, although I don't know if you are helping.

well that´s where your mistaken... I am not here to help you, but instead through mischief gain entertainment

and at finnan ...awesome models...and that paintscheme looks incredible...!

Thats the vik i know! The good news is i have most of the gw paint range so color choice is my only problem.

Loren forest is a pale shade of green. Celestra is kinda a grayish white.

 40kFSU wrote:
Loren forest is a pale shade of green. Celestra is kinda a grayish white.

hmm that sounds very interesting. i have both the colors will have to see what it looks like.

Alright to help me ease my mind on a color choice i made some sample paint schemes on the computer. It is faster than trying to paint a test mini. Heh... i only made eight schemes to choose from. Now to figure out which one. Vote your favorite, or the one that fetches your eye. It will be like so

ROW 1: A B C D
ROW 2: 1 2 3 4

Easy and simple! you guys are the best. Thank you all for the advice, tips and everything. I cant be more please with the Dakka community.

EDIT: If find one you like, but want to change it in a way, feel free to say what and how.

Maybe #3 with a bit more orange?

Then again, it would kinda look like Yme-Loc.

#2 really catches my eye as well.

Lucarikx

I like 2 or 3 TBH. Like this thread! How many points does your army as currently purchased come out to? I've been fighting the urge to get the new Eldar, and a small army like this may be the perfect compromise!

Lucarikx wrote:Maybe #3 with a bit more orange?

Then again, it would kinda look like Yme-Loc.

#2 really catches my eye as well.

Lucarikx

thanks!

godswildcard wrote:I like 2 or 3 TBH. Like this thread! How many points does your army as currently purchased come out to? I've been fighting the urge to get the new Eldar, and a small army like this may be the perfect compromise!

it came out to just a little over a thousand points depending on how you run the knight.

I'd vote for 4, possibly with an orange/deeper yellow faceplate so that the eyes pop a bit more. Orange gems too.

 finnan wrote:
I'd vote for 4, possibly with an orange/deeper yellow faceplate so that the eyes pop a bit more. Orange gems too.

I get the taste the rainbow from this guy.. i like it..

I'm fear I'm going to be a little awkward and not be very definite...

Number C grabs me. If you do a gradient on the red armour plates from a deep dark red at the bottom to a brighter (not quite blood) red at the upper edges. And different gem colours, I don't think the light blue goes.

I like number 1. Although it'll be tricky to not look washed out. Some strong spot colour(s) would probably help.

Number 3 is a nice "mean" scheme. Again tricky to make it look good if it's all going to be dark grey/black. You'll have to be careful to pick out details with highlights and spot colour. More orange could help, but is heading towards what you have started on the Knight...
Also, thinking of grey and orange schemes, I remembered that I did a Genestealer with those colours. I used a dark grey, black and a lighter grey to pick out some of the plates etc. and add variation. I'd probably add more shading to the plates if I did it now though...


and finally, I quite like number 4. Bright and "in your face". Works quite well with the pale blue gems. Would make a very bright army though (up to you if that's a good or bad thing).

lol
actually, you're staying pretty safe - the harmonious yellow with a touch of deeper yellow/orange for a bit of depth, and then contrasting it with the bright blue. Very simple, very strong.

Dr H wrote:I'm fear I'm going to be a little awkward and not be very definite...

Number C grabs me. If you do a gradient on the red armour plates from a deep dark red at the bottom to a brighter (not quite blood) red at the upper edges. And different gem colours, I don't think the light blue goes.

I like number 1. Although it'll be tricky to not look washed out. Some strong spot colour(s) would probably help.

Number 3 is a nice "mean" scheme. Again tricky to make it look good if it's all going to be dark grey/black. You'll have to be careful to pick out details with highlights and spot colour. More orange could help, but is heading towards what you have started on the Knight...
Also, thinking of grey and orange schemes, I remembered that I did a Genestealer with those colours. I used a dark grey, black and a lighter grey to pick out some of the plates etc. and add variation. I'd probably add more shading to the plates if I did it now though...

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and finally, I quite like number 4. Bright and "in your face". Works quite well with the pale blue gems. Would make a very bright army though (up to you if that's a good or bad thing).

Being fabulous and bright is never a bad thing in my book. It is basically a reversed Iyenden paint scheme. You raise a good number of points, but i want to avoid a monotone look like the genesteeler has. It is nice, but it just leaves me going meh. Thank you for the input.

finnan wrote:lol
actually, you're staying pretty safe - the harmonious yellow with a touch of deeper yellow/orange for a bit of depth, and then contrasting it with the bright blue. Very simple, very strong.

Somehow I knew you were going to say something like that. #4 is definitely a safe choice and would be a challenging with that yellow. I will keep number 4 as a plan B here, lets see what others say. However, so many have spoken! its quite nice.

So tron scheme is out then I guess, for it I would have gone black, use the yellow and orange bits, for the gems and circuits myself, for gray was never really part of it except the few programs in the blue/white patterns outfits. Dark grays would have just been highlights had I done such a scheme. Just to mess with your head Cormadepanda

And I am working on ideas for the next part of Full Ice Sanction

 shasolenzabi wrote:
So tron scheme is out then I guess, for it I would have gone black, use the yellow and orange bits, for the gems and circuits myself, for gray was never really part of it except the few programs in the blue/white patterns outfits. Dark grays would have just been highlights had I done such a scheme. Just to mess with your head Cormadepanda

And I am working on ideas for the next part of Full Ice Sanction

I agree with your points, but doing that would make turn away from the scheme. I am a fan of color.

Its gonna get cold in here. I am sure you will think of some ideas. Perhaps they can go toe to toe with some dark Eldar. who knows?

Yeah, that's the thing. A colour scheme, if you're going to paint it over an entire army, has to jump out at you and make you think "yeah that's awesome" each time you paint it (although I think most people will get tired of even the best scheme in time). If it doesn't grab you, then you're not going to have to motivation to continue. But you don't know until you try.