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 Dr H wrote:
Yeah, that's the thing. A colour scheme, if you're going to paint it over an entire army, has to jump out at you and make you think "yeah that's awesome" each time you paint it (although I think most people will get tired of even the best scheme in time). If it doesn't grab you, then you're not going to have to motivation to continue. But you don't know until you try.

And this 100 fold. QFT.

surprisingly I am not tired of my orks paint at all! haha, I want a scheme like that for these guys. And so many wonderful comments have been made. I think I know what I am going to do. I am going to throw C out simply because I don't want to spend 5-6 hours per mini to get the yellow, and red balances. I may use C for an HQ or type like that.

I just thought about this, what if you did #2, and did damage like bone, showing that they have been deprived of supplies.(since the are a lost craftwolrd)

Lucarikx

Yeah, your ork scheme is great and it has a good story behind it. Maybe that's what you need to get a scheme for these, find a reason of why they are the colour that they are. Eldar do seem to like bright colours at least.

Oh yeah that's something else to contemplate when thinking colour schemes, the time that you want to spend painting them. I sometimes forget that many people are painting these to use for a game and would like them done in a respectable amount of time, whereas I'm happy to spend hours on one single troop model (or 3 months on a troop carrier...).

Also you may see some of these schemes appearing in my "army" one day. Inspiration is everywhere...

i am partly with DR. H again... i like C ... dashing... and even could be fluffwise a bit more brutal than your average eldar gang...

but my money (figuratively speaking) is on "1"! but i would add a bit of frosted details to those antennas and so on... if you had a bigger version of that scheme i would even make a mock up/guidance for you on gimp

Lucarikx wrote:I just thought about this, what if you did #2, and did damage like bone, showing that they have been deprived of supplies.(since the are a lost craftwolrd)

Lucarikx

The idea is pleasing! but you are talking about an entire craft world. O.o -> it kinda implies they have everything they need, but you can argue the other as well. I will see i support this.

Dr H wrote:Yeah, your ork scheme is great and it has a good story behind it. Maybe that's what you need to get a scheme for these, find a reason of why they are the colour that they are. Eldar do seem to like bright colours at least.

Oh yeah that's something else to contemplate when thinking colour schemes, the time that you want to spend painting them. I sometimes forget that many people are painting these to use for a game and would like them done in a respectable amount of time, whereas I'm happy to spend hours on one single troop model (or 3 months on a troop carrier...).

Also you may see some of these schemes appearing in my "army" one day. Inspiration is everywhere...

STEAL IT ALL! i hope you get inspired to do an army, i would simply love that concept. Your a good painter. Yeah, perhaps i should try to write their fluff, and give you guys my warlock update. Haha

Viktor von Domm wrote:i am partly with DR. H again... i like C ... dashing... and even could be fluffwise a bit more brutal than your average eldar gang...

but my money (figuratively speaking) is on "1"! but i would add a bit of frosted details to those antennas and so on... if you had a bigger version of that scheme i would even make a mock up/guidance for you on gimp

C is inspired of the front cover of the last edition codex. DEH ANGRY ITS GOT ME ARM! - ahh good old jokes.

The picture is clickable, and quite large, try to download it and see for yourself! I would like to be able to understand what is cranking in Viks head.

that´d be my take on the "1" scheme...

hope i made myself a bit cleaer with that...

Aye you do. I like it.

*punches the air* yes

Just really like N° 2.

I think that You need to see what missing in the current paint scheme You're doing at the moment tough.
i think That is a great start and orange is a lot in my taste

reinforcing several points - it's fine using illustrations to figure out colour schemes, but anyone who has ever painted a Guardian will know that some of the areas of colour that stand out fairly strongly on the illustration you will NOT be able to get to on a model. You can't really get to the neck (unless you paint then assemble), and the undersuit on the upper arms basically doesn't exist on the model, neither do the gaps in the ab-plates. That all effects the colour balance.

I'm with Dr H - I'm quite prepared to take all the time I need in order to be satisfied with all my models, even lowly Guardians - but I know that that doesn't apply to everyone. I'm frankly astounded that completed Wraithknights appeared as fast as they did as they're huge models. If this is for a gaming army, you're going to have to think about a scheme that can be done quickly (and well, so you're happy with it), and isn't going to suck up too much time. If you're going for speed, then 3 will definitely be the quickest one to do, the others are all fairly similar in the amount of precision armour-painting that you'd have to do, with maybe 1 being more forgiving due to the closeness of the shades you'd be using.

The other thing to remember is that not all your army will be IN those colours, as the Aspects traditionally have their own colour schemes.

Viktor von Domm wrote:*punches the air* yes

SelvaggioSaky wrote:Just really like N° 2.

I think that You need to see what missing in the current paint scheme You're doing at the moment tough.
i think That is a great start and orange is a lot in my taste

Well the monster is being stripped, he is already down to his primer..
The scheme is just too dark for me. Its being dropped.

finnan wrote:reinforcing several points - it's fine using illustrations to figure out colour schemes, but anyone who has ever painted a Guardian will know that some of the areas of colour that stand out fairly strongly on the illustration you will NOT be able to get to on a model. You can't really get to the neck (unless you paint then assemble), and the undersuit on the upper arms basically doesn't exist on the model, neither do the gaps in the ab-plates. That all effects the colour balance.

I'm with Dr H - I'm quite prepared to take all the time I need in order to be satisfied with all my models, even lowly Guardians - but I know that that doesn't apply to everyone. I'm frankly astounded that completed Wraithknights appeared as fast as they did as they're huge models. If this is for a gaming army, you're going to have to think about a scheme that can be done quickly (and well, so you're happy with it), and isn't going to suck up too much time. If you're going for speed, then 3 will definitely be the quickest one to do, the others are all fairly similar in the amount of precision armour-painting that you'd have to do, with maybe 1 being more forgiving due to the closeness of the shades you'd be using.

The other thing to remember is that not all your army will be IN those colours, as the Aspects traditionally have their own colour schemes.

Well the army I have bought/plan on expanding will not have aspects. So in all manor it will be for now, but it would be nice to have a rainbow of color. You raise several key points, I have held the guardian mini's before and know what you say is beyond true.


I believe I have found my heart scheme, as everytime I think of changing to something else, or even trying to use what I suggest I find myself drawn back to this scheme.

It will be a light blue stones, with a bone main for armor - something this painter does not really support along with a black/grey head and touches. As far as a face plate color I remain unsure. I am going to take a break from painting until the new brushes I ordered arrive and i experiment with a wet pallet a bit.

I will post some modeling updates tomorrow for you guys. Sorry for all the discussion, but its nice to chat with the community!

Late as always lads, sorry is inorder, sorry.

So Thanks to the mighty finnan! who kindly provided me with a bone recipe to paint with I managed this:

Is that just the raw washes? Cool so far : )

 finnan wrote:
Is that just the raw washes? Cool so far : )

No that is painted up to your methods, except for a few places like the wraith spine. I have another at a base stage to compare

Sorry if I missed it, but what is the method for bone?

 shamikebab wrote:
Sorry if I missed it, but what is the method for bone?

Finnan's recipe that I used was as follows:

2 washes of Sephia
Then a bleach bone
Then a bleach bone and white in a 1:1 ratio
Then a bleach bone and white in a 1:2 ratio
Then a pure white

Good start Panda. Look forward to more.

 cormadepanda wrote:

 shamikebab wrote:
Sorry if I missed it, but what is the method for bone?

Finnan's recipe that I used was as follows:

2 washes of Sephia
Then a bleach bone
Then a bleach bone and white in a 1:1 ratio
Then a bleach bone and white in a 1:2 ratio
Then a pure white

wow... that will hurt you big time for a whole army... lotsa work to do...

but...it looks amazing... so... totally justified

 Viktor von Domm wrote:

 cormadepanda wrote:

 shamikebab wrote:
Sorry if I missed it, but what is the method for bone?

Finnan's recipe that I used was as follows:

2 washes of Sephia
Then a bleach bone
Then a bleach bone and white in a 1:1 ratio
Then a bleach bone and white in a 1:2 ratio
Then a pure white

wow... that will hurt you big time for a whole army... lotsa work to do...

but...it looks amazing... so... totally justified

Well when the army is only 22 models in size I think I can handle it. My ork skin takes just as long to do the bone so I am use to the slow style of progress. Thanks Vik, I am happy that you enjoy it as much as I do.

I also have to say, if you do not have a wet pallet get one! This thing is an amazing invention that should be loved by the gods. I can show you how to make on the cheap for around 5-10$ American.

ah yes... I know for sure that a wet palette would bring me to a new level in painting... never wet blended at all and this probably is all due to not having one... I tried to make a cheap one on my own... with breadpaper (warping paper) and a plastic (Tupperware) box and tissue paper... but somehow I didn´t get the benefits of the wet palette I thought I would get...
so if you have some better way and then some how to actually use one... spill the beans!

and sorry mate I never knew you had to work that hard for the orky skin... I think orks never get to you as the beautiful guys and thus you overlook such details of work... now duly noted!

... I was first time captured by the DA terminator armor in white bone... ever since then bone looks cool for me...so yeah... I enjoy it as much as you do

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
ah yes... I know for sure that a wet palette would bring me to a new level in painting... never wet blended at all and this probably is all due to not having one... I tried to make a cheap one on my own... with breadpaper (warping paper) and a plastic (Tupperware) box and tissue paper... but somehow I didn´t get the benefits of the wet palette I thought I would get...
so if you have some better way and then some how to actually use one... spill the beans!

and sorry mate I never knew you had to work that hard for the orky skin... I think orks never get to you as the beautiful guys and thus you overlook such details of work... now duly noted!

... I was first time captured by the DA terminator armor in white bone... ever since then bone looks cool for me...so yeah... I enjoy it as much as you do

NOOO THE BEANS *spill sounds and horrifying images of beans everywhere* Jesus man think of the children! The HUGE BEANS

You had almost the right idea. I used the following ingredients from a fellow dakkadakka tut.

One GW basing kit plastic case or similar
Throw out the naughty contents and take the empty case.

Grab one sponge from your local sponge vendor.

The tricky part. Place the sponge in the GW plastic box thingy of doom. DOOOOOOOOOMMMMM

Next get wax paper

I used this stuff. Cut a sheet to fit slightly larger than the GW bin.

1. After sponge is in GW bin fill half way with water, make sure the sponge is nice and soaked.
2. Add wax paper to sponge, press paper into the sponge so damp water soaks in. Should feel damp on the other side where the paint will sit.
3. Add paint. Watch as it doesn't ever quite set. Cheap as beans, made a wonderful blending time for me.


Now I have to clean up the beans....

please don´t tread on the beans... there are children suffering from hunger somewhere around the corner...

question: why does the waxpaper have to be slightly bigger than the the box? does it have to form a slight bowl?

and thanks for describing it with pics... the papery stuff has so many names even here in Germany... quite confusing

Going Bone I see

Viktor von Domm wrote:please don´t tread on the beans... there are children suffering from hunger somewhere around the corner...

question: why does the waxpaper have to be slightly bigger than the the box? does it have to form a slight bowl?

and thanks for describing it with pics... the papery stuff has so many names even here in Germany... quite confusing

It doesn't i just did it that way, and it helped, it gave me more space to work with and what not.

shasolenzabi wrote:Going Bone I see

Yeah but that is not sexual. Sorry my friends 'chat-bot' is ruining me.

I like the bone look quite a bit.

Bone is nice. What other color?

The initial pic was Bone+White+Light blue or the old GW colors of Bleached bone+Skull White+Ice Blue

40kFSU wrote:Bone is nice. What other color?

I am glad you asked, its going to be a black. Or... look at pictures!

shasolenzabi wrote:The initial pic was Bone+White+Light blue or the old GW colors of Bleached bone+Skull White+Ice Blue

Almost 100% well done.

Those wondering black spots are going to be gems. Non blacks are not chaging.

kick ass - nice job : )

(did you double up on the shoulder pads, or is that the kit? Cool keyboard too)

Bone and Black. That's pretty much what I was planning for one of my latest guardians...

Good job, nice scheme.

Color scheme is top Panda.

Glad You made a decision that makes You happy with and give such a nice result

About the Ork skin, I feel your pain mate