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Looking at the scale of these, I think my Lego Star destroyer would even be a touch on the small size.
I can't see one appearing in the future, It'd have to be massive.
I can certainly see both those ships in my future though.

With all the stuff that's been announced/released what do we have left?
We have the A, B, X, Y wings, Falcon, Blockade runner and transport for the rebels, and the TIE, Interceptor, Advanced, and bomber, plus the Lambda class shuttle and Slave 1
Without going to the prequels and EU there cant be much they've not done.
They could do a Z-95 or a T-16 though.

It has always been a "command pod."

 marv335 wrote:
With all the stuff that's been announced/released what do we have left?

Possible options:

Random corvette-size imperial ship.
Assault gunboat (I would love to see this and would buy a whole squadron of them).
TIE defender (sigh).
Z-95
Additional pilots/paint schemes for existing ships.

Ugly Green Trog wrote:
I'm trying to remember but I always thought the pod at the top of the transport was its shield generator, I hate the idea of it being a cockpit that's dumb!

Yes, the pod is the shield generator.

Were the transports really that small? Seems out of scale with the blockade runner.

From the FFG In-Flight Report at GenCon. I did not attend, but i have my sources. Sorry I didn't post this yesterday, but I was playing games and drinking all night...

X-Wing Notes:

1. The initial X-Wing estimate for demand was very low. In fact, they tripled what they thought would be a good supply and that ended up being less than 10% of the actual demand. So that's why there were supply issues on initial launch.
2. More capital ships will be released so that you can play "Epic" star wars. He didn't go into detail and,or my source took gakky notes.
3. They'll have 3 ways to play now:
3a. Basic and Tournament Rules
3b. How to incorporate Capital Starship rules with fighter support
3c. Special Scenarios.

Star Wars: Edge of Empire

1. Beyond the Rim is adventure that just came out.
2. Enter the Unknown is an adventure that will come out later this year.
3. Specialization decks have just come out that have the Character Talent Trees and Special Abilities.
4. Age of Rebellion Beta is out now and will end in November, will be released Mid-2014.
4a. Will have Capital Ships, Special Operations class and stuff.
4b. Can play as stand alone, but is completely compatible with base game.

Board Games
1. Beta Testing Eldric Horror now. (I play tested this for 20-30 minutes and enjoyed it. The complexity is between Arkham Horror and Elder Sign. Same Genre, obviously, but completely new game. Very fun. Can travel around the globe and has completely new characters to play.) Will release early 2014. I will be buying this game.
2. Battle Lore 2nd Edition. Didn't say much about it.
3. Lord of the Ring Card Game: Coming out with a bunch more stuff in the next year. My buddy couldn't get the notes down as he was talking fast.
4. Eldar Sign is now out on iOS. Are exploring other games on iOS, but it's a very expensive development process.



General Notes:

1. Moved the FFG HQ Building, but they have no parking lot right now if you want to visit. Should be done in the next few weeks at most.
2. Sales: 45% are international
2a: Board Games 37%
Living Card Games 24%
Miniatures: 16%
RPGs: 10%
Supplements (Sleeves, etc): 9%
Other: 8%
3. Purchased a variety of Print On Demand Machines so that they can make small print runs for play testing or specialized runs. More to come on that later.
4. Sold off the Tide of Iron and Dust Warfare games.
5. Bought CardGameDB.com so they can do their Living Card Games online for database (list building, tracking, etc). No mention of playing these games online.
6. According to the license with Lucas Films, FFG may not release ANY pdf to support ANY of their Star Wars games UNLESS they are FREE. So they can't sell you pdfs, but they can give you free ones.

 SickSix wrote:
Were the transports really that small? Seems out of scale with the blockade runner.

Yep. Here's a shot from Return with the Falcon and X-wings:



Also, a shot of the two together from Behind the Magic:

I just saw a team covenant vid interview with FFG where the actual ship designers fully admit they are out of scale to make them actually viable to play with... Issue closed!

 dlust1 wrote:
Those look pretty amazing,

I would love to see a star destroyer but I shudder to think of the size and price it would have to be to fit even close to scale,

maybe if they did the bigger ships as terrain instead?

how cool would it be do have the trench run board/mission and have huge turbo lasers trying to take you out?

In fairness theres already a play cloth thing of the Death Star, so I could see a bridge section maybe of a star destroyer working for instance.

 doc1234 wrote:
In fairness theres already a play cloth thing of the Death Star, so I could see a bride section maybe of a star destroyer working for instance.

The Starfield pack that FFG are releasing has a Death Star on it as well.

 kronk wrote:

6. According to the license with Lucas Films, FFG may not release ANY pdf to support ANY of their Star Wars games UNLESS they are FREE. So they can't sell you pdfs, but they can give you free ones.

While that is good for xwing, it's probably bad for the RPG. I wonder if that has to do with the existing novel license.

 warboss wrote:

 kronk wrote:

6. According to the license with Lucas Films, FFG may not release ANY pdf to support ANY of their Star Wars games UNLESS they are FREE. So they can't sell you pdfs, but they can give you free ones.

While that is good for xwing, it's probably bad for the RPG. I wonder if that has to do with the existing novel license.

Hopefully they do the bits & mortars scheme for the pdf's, as I prefer them for referencing rules/content and my books for looking pretty.

 kronk wrote:
From the FFG In-Flight Report at GenCon. I did not attend, but i have my sources. Sorry I didn't post this yesterday, but I was playing games and drinking all night...

X-Wing Notes:

1. The initial X-Wing estimate for demand was very low. In fact, they tripled what they thought would be a good supply and that ended up being less than 10% of the actual demand. So that's why there were supply issues on initial launch.
2. More capital ships will be released so that you can play "Epic" star wars. He didn't go into detail and,or my source took gakky notes.
3. They'll have 3 ways to play now:
3a. Basic and Tournament Rules
3b. How to incorporate Capital Starship rules with fighter support
3c. Special Scenarios.

Star Wars: Edge of Empire

1. Beyond the Rim is adventure that just came out.
2. Enter the Unknown is an adventure that will come out later this year.
3. Specialization decks have just come out that have the Character Talent Trees and Special Abilities.
4. Age of Rebellion Beta is out now and will end in November, will be released Mid-2014.
4a. Will have Capital Ships, Special Operations class and stuff.
4b. Can play as stand alone, but is completely compatible with base game.

Board Games
1. Beta Testing Eldric Horror now. (I play tested this for 20-30 minutes and enjoyed it. The complexity is between Arkham Horror and Elder Sign. Same Genre, obviously, but completely new game. Very fun. Can travel around the globe and has completely new characters to play.) Will release early 2014. I will be buying this game.
2. Battle Lore 2nd Edition. Didn't say much about it.
3. Lord of the Ring Card Game: Coming out with a bunch more stuff in the next year. My buddy couldn't get the notes down as he was talking fast.
4. Eldar Sign is now out on iOS. Are exploring other games on iOS, but it's a very expensive development process.

Eldritch Horror I'm hopeful is less procedural with the objectives than Arkham Borer (Where everyone was either circling the board closing gates or circling the board grabbing clue tokens to close gates.)

Battlelore 2nd edition instantly lost me when they announced it would take place in the Runebound/Descent universe. The 100 years war theme was quite interesting and they cut two factions from Runewars for "lore reasons" (And any game I get that's 3+ players has to support 6 players or it'll never see the table.)

People haven't seemed to mention the designers in video reference to working on a star destroyer.

I'm going to say lower case star destroyer and presume its something of a smaller yet similar in nature to the larger Imperial class Star Destroyer. Something like this: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vigil-class_corvette
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120410181004/starwars/images/f/f6/Vigil-class_corvette_%28Fractalsponge%29.jpg

 aka_mythos wrote:
People haven't seemed to mention the designers in video reference to working on a star destroyer.

I'm going to say lower case star destroyer and presume its something of a smaller yet similar in nature to the larger Imperial class Star Destroyer. Something like this: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vigil-class_corvette
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120410181004/starwars/images/f/f6/Vigil-class_corvette_%28Fractalsponge%29.jpg

Part of me is hoping they'll reuse the PC ship designs from SWTOR, as they were the best part of the game.

At the very least we should get a YT-2400.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 SickSix wrote:
Were the transports really that small? Seems out of scale with the blockade runner.

Yep. Here's a shot from Return with the Falcon and X-wings:



Also, a shot of the two together from Behind the Magic:

Medium Transports are only 90 meters. The Falcon is behind the transport IIRC, so the perspective is off. And also IIRC, Transports only have a crew of like 2-4, probably only 2 in the pod at most.

RogueRegault wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:
People haven't seemed to mention the designers in video reference to working on a star destroyer.

I'm going to say lower case star destroyer and presume its something of a smaller yet similar in nature to the larger Imperial class Star Destroyer. Something like this: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vigil-class_corvette
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120410181004/starwars/images/f/f6/Vigil-class_corvette_%28Fractalsponge%29.jpg

Part of me is hoping they'll reuse the PC ship designs from SWTOR, as they were the best part of the game.

At the very least we should get a YT-2400.

SWTOR sadly happens in the very distant past to when these ships appear, otherwise I'd love to have the X-70 Phantom. If the game expands that far back that would be awesome though. Right now I'm most hopeful for Imperial Dreadnoughts to make it into the game. It's my favorite medium size capital ship for the Imperial Side, other than the Nebulon-B Frigate (which, strangely, was only seen on screen as a Rebel ship).

MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 SickSix wrote:
Were the transports really that small? Seems out of scale with the blockade runner.

Yep. Here's a shot from Return with the Falcon and X-wings:



Also, a shot of the two together from Behind the Magic:

Medium Transports are only 90 meters. The Falcon is behind the transport IIRC, so the perspective is off. And also IIRC, Transports only have a crew of like 2-4, probably only 2 in the pod at most.

Ignore the top picture, which says 120(and showing that the movie one is clearly shorter than 120), it's something to do with a certain model kit. Also, the Falcon is in front of the Transport there.

Personally wouldn't mind them doing some clone wars era stuff *ducks to avoid projectiles* Though if they end up doing TOR era stuff CW doesn't seem so outlandish with the tech difference at least. They could awlays work it like they did for ww1 and 2 in wings of glory?

RogueRegault wrote:


Eldritch Horror I'm hopeful is less procedural with the objectives than Arkham Borer (Where everyone was either circling the board closing gates or circling the board grabbing clue tokens to close gates.)

It's very random, actually. You have no idea what it will take to close the gate. Imagine that you flip over an encounter card for the gate. You'll make a check. If you fail, you'll sometimes still have a second chance to close the gate, but it will typically be harder to do and might cost you more sanity and/or hit points.

Here are my pics from GenCon of the new ships although I know most of you have already seen them:

It's nice to see a company previewing product months in advance. Can't wait to add these to my collection!

Ri, I'm disappoint you didn't grab me a B-wing.

Didn't know you wanted one! Next time

Someone mentioned they were limit 2 per ship, and I bought one other B-wing for another Dakkanaut, so I may not have been allowed a third anyway, though...

here's a couple pics I got of the 2 big ships while I was waiting in line at the FF booth





They look really great in person.. prolly the best pre-pants ever.. if those were pre-paints and not pro-paints

 warboss wrote:

 kronk wrote:

6. According to the license with Lucas Films, FFG may not release ANY pdf to support ANY of their Star Wars games UNLESS they are FREE. So they can't sell you pdfs, but they can give you free ones.

While that is good for xwing, it's probably bad for the RPG. I wonder if that has to do with the existing novel license.

My understanding is that it actually has to do with the video game licenses.

Lucas Licensing (formerly LFL, for insiders) had some rather broadly-defined terminology when it has issued licenses in the past. Unfortunately, anything gaming-related that is released digitally is apparently classified under the "video game" category. This means that (currently) only EA has the right to sell PDF-based gaming material. There is a hope that when the current game license expires that FFG will be able to renegotiate the right to produce and release paid digital material, but there's also the risk that they'll lose the license if a bigger name decides they want to get involved in the field (though at this time I can't really see anybody wanting to get involved, unless Games Workshop is feeling frisky).

The novels are generally published under the Lucas Books which is itself a division of Lucas Licensing, so I'm not aware of them actually causing any issues regarding the licenses as there's no exclusivity required for those.

The FFG license (and others) was negotiated prior to the Disney/Marvel purchase of LucasFilm and the licenses. There are currently no indications towards how they may/may not change their decision-making regarding licensing terms.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
So how did the Imperials use them?

As system patrols and defense mostly. Some would carry complements of TIEs as fighter defense.

Probably also worth remembering that Leia was a Senator in the Galactic Empire at the beginning of EpIV, so it makes perfect sense that that particular kind of ship would be in use in various roles across the factions.

While I like the models, I'm not too keen on having 'large' ships in X-Wing (in fact, even the Falcon and Slave 1 are a bit too much for me).

I'd wish they'd hurry up with releasing wave 3 around here.

Regarding the A-Wing. Went through most of the pre-production drawings and it is quite bigger than in the movie close-ups:

http://www.miscellaneoushi.com/thumbnails/detail/20121018/star%20wars%20awing%201600x1200%20wallpaper_www.miscellaneoushi.com_32.jpg

Also the size during the ramming of the superstardestroyer does not correlate to the close-ups.

So, there were size issues already back then and the FFG A-Wing is quite close to most of the original drawings and the ramming A-Wing.