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75hastings69 wrote:
This "So I'm not sure when we might see this kroot monster that 2 people have seen" that you've listed as a rumour of mine was me being sarcastic, I knew there was no monster to see so knew it wouldn't be coming out.

That's one time when I wished you were not sarcastic or wrong

75hastings69 wrote:
Also why don't I get any updates for high elves?

Because there is no official release info?

Surely it's obvious to anyone with eyes that there IS a flying chariot, that it IS pulled by an eagle, there IS another plastic Mage, and that they ARE the next release.

It is common practice to update all this when the army is released. ATM High Elves being next and Mage being plastic is a rumour, although a very very good one. Is it so hard to wait another 2 weeks?

I'll remember that next time I'm about to post something

75hastings69 wrote:
I'll remember that next time I'm about to post something

I will update the sarcastic rumor to 'speculation' on Monday. I am holding off on HE so I don't have to do a ton of updates but it is pretty clear that a lot has been confirmed.

There is no rumour not even speculation, I was calling out the two liars that said they'd seen the big kroot beast...... as it doesn't exist!

Well, it gave me two good months

75hastings69 wrote:
There is no rumour not even speculation, I was calling out the two liars that said they'd seen the big kroot beast...... as it doesn't exist!

okay, I'll check it out and update apripriately on Monday.

Updated Hastings' Kroot monster rumor to true since the intention (now that I reviewed it) was to slap down the dumbasses with sarcasm. I am fully in support of slapping down dumbasses with sarcasm.

Also, started updating HE release rumors.

 pretre wrote:

75hastings69 wrote:
There is no rumour not even speculation, I was calling out the two liars that said they'd seen the big kroot beast...... as it doesn't exist!

okay, I'll check it out and update apripriately on Monday.

Looking at Hastings post, it is fairly obvious that he was making poking fun at Kroot Beast Rumor

Warseer 3-22-13:

75hastings69 wrote:So what happened to these giant kroot beast models????

Guyver 3 wrote:They are frollicking around imagination land with all the other imaginary units

Tastyfish wrote:Or are part of the rumoured Storm of Magic style allies expansion. Is that snark or surprise Hastings?

75hastings69 wrote:Pure snark lol

There's no allies supplement either. So I'm not sure when we might see this kroot monster that 2 people have seen.

I would put Hastings down for saying 1) No Kroot Beast (True) 2) No allies supplement (Pending)

 wyomingfox wrote:
I would put Hastings down for saying 1) No Kroot Beast (True) 2) No allies supplement (Pending)

I did!

Nah, I put him down for true on both. I think that the kroot/vespid inclusion in the Tau dex kills the ally dex idea. I will happily reverse the ally dex rumors if it pops up and surprises us all.

You could add this batch of Tau rumours by stickmonkey: Some true, many false.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/480065.page

Looks like I had that one for Stick already:

Tau Rumors
- Tau Q2/Q3 2013 TRUE
- kroot are in fact still part of Tau, TRUE
and have a new unit or two including a beastly transport FALSE
- There are no demiurge in the Tau codex TRUE
- new crisis suits DUPLICATE
- multiple new suits in the codex, crisis being what we know, TRUE
- there is also a smaller suit similar to the stealth suit, but not as bulky designed for close combat, FALSE
- broadsides while the same relative size as a crisis suit have much more bulk to them and are a separate build/model. TRUE
- bigger suit, which has been reported from others. Reports have it being a ranged beast(metaphorically, not literally) with 2 twin linked rail cannons and a missile option. So I'm sure it will become a target of choice in games PENDING
- new cc suit which will share a box with the new stealth suit. FALSE
- the new piranha option is to transport a cc suit unit, this option replaces the drone pods on the sides FALSE
- plastic kit in the works for pathfinders TRUE
- the ethereals have a new race that they are using as a psychic conduit. FALSE
- remora drones will be in the codex as flyers FALSE
- Flyer has dual gattling cannons FALSE
- Flyer has option for rail guns FALSE
- Flyer has options for AA missiles or bombs, But can't take both. TRUE
- Jaws Railgun Mostly confirmed this is the way of it, but that it does have a max distance. Some conflicting rumors that you roll for number of hull points it penetrates when fired, or it's fixed. And also conflicting sources saying if it penetrates it causes 2 hull points of damage vs 1. FALSE

bigger suit, which has been reported from others. Reports have it being a ranged beast(metaphorically, not literally) with 2 twin linked rail cannons and a missile option. So I'm sure it will become a target of choice in games

That's the new broadside, so not pending anymore.

Yeah, I updated it as a 'partially true' right after I wrote that post.

I went with PT since he was clearly making it separate from the Broadside. Or I could go with duplicate, since he got credit for broadsides being big and separate already.

Anyone with Fantasy savvy wanna help out with the HE rumors?

Yea, change my first rumour to true (new plastic HE Mage - the one that looks like he's tripping over trying to catch a floating jellyfish) also change at least one of my HE next after tau rumours to true instead of all of them reading duplicate.

Ha! I knew I'd botch up a duplicate call one of these days. I wish I had your original HE link because I'm sure it had more than just the plastic mage on it all I have are the newer references. Either way, it is updated. Thanks!

Maelström -

High Elf Rumors - April 2013
- Plastic huge Treeman —also can be used by WE—. It's been done since two years ago. It was thought only for WE but has been put into this wave for HE because of the lack of ideas. FALSE
- Plastic Maidenguard-Avelorn. They share with Shadow Warriors: heavy armor, shiled, spear-halberd as in LOTR, great weapon and magic bows. Bodies for male and female. Shadow Warriors wear helms and cloaks and they are scouts. PARTLY TRUE
- Monstruous Infantry, ¿Elementales? from Changing Islands. Options for all four elements. Maelström says this is the first time he hears about that. He's also received an email talking about MC with eagles. FALSE
- Griffon/monster, Eltharion. FALSE
- Blister Finecast: Alarielle, Teclis, Alith Anar, Belennaer. PARTLY TRUE
- Blister Plastic: Warrior wizard from Hoeth, heroe on foot with lion cloak. PARTLY TRUE
- New Batallion Box: more expensive: 10 shadow warriors/maiden, 20 spears, bolthrowe or however it's said in English and 8 silver helms. FALSE
- No new model for Imrik and no drakes MC. Dragons can be placed as rare 1-3. FALSE

HE Rumors - April 2013
NEW STUFF:
-HE are going to get a new war machine that mixes RBT and dragon breath/flamethrower. Nobody told Maeltröm if its something independent or part of one of the flying chariots. He thinks that maybe a new war machine. FALSE
-Some people now say there will be no MC, so maybe no dragons. Others, instead, keep saying there will be and they give very explicit details. Maelström is confident they can be one of the releases, since if they exist not there will be few new boxes and having two different infantry boxes is both unlikely and unnecessary. He will keep digging to see what he finds. SPECULATION
-Next magic items disappear as you know them nowadays: Star Lance, Dragon Horn, Armor of Caledor (=Imrik coming back?). There is a new magic item: Book of the Phoenix. FALSE
-Dragons have awaken. More and more powerful dragons. Imrik is coming back. FALSE
-Phoenix King is going to battle. FALSE

NEW MODELS (from MORE likely to LESS likely):
1. BOX/KIT: Flying Chariot Sky Talons. Special character on it (Finubar/Eltharion) an option for RBT/flamethrower-dragon breath war machine. PARTLY TRUE
2. BOX/KIT: Phoenix/Phoenix Riders. Options for Special Character (Caradryan?), two/three types of Phoenix (Ice/Fire/Lone one). TRUE
3. BOX/KIT: Infantry: 10 Shadow Warriors/Maiden Guard (Some say they will be in two boxes and not in a multikit). DUPLICATE
4. BOX/KIT: Monstruos Cavalry "Fire Riders" (dragons) FALSE
5. BOX/KIT: Huge Dragon/Monster. Option for Imrik. FALSE
6. BOX/KIT: New War Machine (as the one in the flying chariot option B) FALSE
7. BOX/KIT: Great Eagles. FALSE
8. BOX/KIT: Two elven gods shrines. FALSE

BLISTERS (some to be seen on may, others in the future, others never). From MORE likely to LESS likely:
1. BLISTER Warrior Mage (some say with option to build Belannaer) TRUE
2. BLISTER Alarielle TRUE
3. BLISTER Teclis FALSE
4. BLISTER Random hero FALSE



Best Pone

High Elf - March 2013
I can confirm the flying chariot. It looks like a tiny boat with wings, and is pulled by a single giant eagle. It looks kind of silly in my opinion, but not much that can be done about that. TRUE

As for the phoenix, it can be made up either as a fire phoenix or an ice phoenix. This one at least look pretty cool (or hot, depending on the option you choose I guess ) TRUE

Both of these will be plastic kits:
- A unit of lasses that look to be using bows formed from water. They're something to do with Avalon? TRUE
- A unit wielding bows and swords, with face-covering helms. I understand these to be called Shadow Soldiers or something to that effect. TRUE




Actuality

Harry's Fantasy Recap - July 2012
HE - Imrik making a return, his inclusion possibly acting like Skrag but for True Dragon Princes. (This ties in with the popularity of the Caledor novels depicting mass dragon combat, the Storm of Magic novella, AND the Graham McNeil 2 part novel.) FALSE
HE - The monstrous cavalry are a form of lesser wingless dragon, akin to the demigryph. FALSE
HE - Dragon Princes riding some form of true dragon, (possibly limited to a sun dragon) Possibly in sets of three FALSE




Ozguard Battlehammer

High Elf - March 2013
I believe the Everqueen is completely new model with maidens. DUPLICATE
SilverHelms are currently special - returning to core DUPLICATE
Martial prowess meaning that they attack in an extra rank. TRUE
I'm not sure if Speed of Asuryan will change so that it negates a GW always strike last.. SPECULATION

Release date is May. (According to Aprils White Dwarf) TRUE

The frost phoenix is at the end of it's natural life. The fire phoenix is young and yes I believe the fire phoenix resurrects itself kind of like a hellpit. TRUE

High Elf - March 2013
the next army book will be High Elves.TRUE

Flying Phoenix's (Frost and Fire) that can drop flame templates on units they fly over. Gets abilities based on what is roled on winds of magic TRUE

Great Eagle towing chariots (Which can have bolt throwers on them) TRUE

New Highmage of Hoeth (Swordsmaster/mage) Gets every signature from all 8 lores. TRUE

Everqueen TRUE

Silver Helms as Core TRUE

Martial Prowess across the board TRUE

Archer units with magical bows TRUE

Swordsmasters get a parry save vs shooting TRUE

New Shadow Warrior Models TRUE

The White Dwarf battle report is vs Ogres. TRUE



Harry

High Elves - April 2013
Heard about a unit with Bows and Cloaks TRUE

Harry's recap of all existing rumours /= Harry's rumours.

Yeah. Not sure why it's called Harry's rumour recap.

Avian wrote:
Yeah. Not sure why it's called Harry's rumour recap.

the thread was named that. Thanks, Avian, I'll get all those in on Monday.

deleted. Misread things.

 Kroothawk wrote:
deleted. Misread things.

aww. I missed it.

I don't know if the thing about a plastic White Lion hero should be ruled out just yet.

I'm looking at the High Elf army book and there seems to be a character I do not actually recognize within it. On page 85 of the book there is a block of the old Spearmen with a White Lion equipped hero within...but the pose and axe do not match anything which I immediately recognize.

It could simply be a conversion but I do not know.

Edit:
I've dug around a bit and I think I've got what it is. It looks to be a White Lions hero made using bits from the Tiranoc/White Lion Chariot kit. There's a few bits which do not immediately, 100% agree with that but the angle of the photograph makes it hard to tell.

Are you talking about this guy:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xLMEDImxvgc/UXg5I4f6O1I/AAAAAAAAQqw/MK-t7uCPmGI/s1600/28.jpg

He's made from the plastic Prince kit with a Chrace shield.


EDIT: Or perhaps this guy:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440060a&prodId=prod790850

No, it's a different guy entirely.

Well, I'll be playing the new High Elves on Thursday (most likely), so I can have a look then.

Updated Avian's stuff.

I missed some.


Naftka

HE Releases - April 2013

via an Anonymous Source from the Faeit 212 inbox
Core :
Spearmen TRUE
Archers TRUE
Lothern Sea Guard TRUE
Silver Helms TRUE
Tiranoc Chariot FALSE
Shadow Warriors FALSE

Special :
Ellyrian Reavers FALSE
Chrace Chariot TRUE
White Lions TRUE
Dragon Princes (Horse) TRUE
Great Eagles FALSE
Swordmasters TRUE
Bolt Thrower FALSE

Rare :
Dragon Princes (monstruous) FALSE
Phoenix Guard FALSE
Phoenix TRUE
Saphery Chariot FALSE

New Models:
- Saphery Chariot (flying chariot) PARTLY TRUE
- Drake Riders (dragon princes) FALSE
- Shadow Warriors TRUE
- Phoenix TRUE
- Guard of Avelorn (maiden guard or similar, not confirmed yet maybe extra option if you take Alarielle as well as 5th edition book) TRUE


Quite a bit of "well, duh!" here. I'm of the general opinion that "X stays in its current slot" shouldn't count as a rumour.




Nopuiidorl

HE Rumors - March 2013
Belannaer may return. FALSE
There will be new model to Imrik in a huge dragon (Caledor Dragon?), according to rumors. FALSE

Hastings' flying chariot do exist, but may not be pulled by eagles.PARTIALLY TRUE

There will be a shrine/anvil (similar tu lumynarch/hurricanum) of two known elven gods. Some buffs could be magical attacks/flaming attacks/ASF. FALSE

Dragon MC will be modelled taking Thaindon's dragon as inspiration (that elf dragon rider from the 3rd edition). Like current HE plastic dragon (which takes inspiration from a very old GW dragon). FALSE

Do not expect to see spears/LSG core units in may. The rumor holds truth, but that belongs to a further miniature wave. "Silver boys" coming later on too. PENDING

ASF will be lost as rule armywide (Harry said that alredy). This would mean a slight point decrease on miniatures. FALSE

A less likely rumor talks that there will be a "Caledor dragon", apart from current dragons. FALSE

SMs may have a path-choice attacks (+1 to hit/KB/ward save...), lions being slightly more focused in monster-killing; lion pelt would protect also in CC. FALSE

Apparently there will be new miniatures for Teclis and another "plastic mage (Belannaer we hope)". PARTLY TRUE

Plus: intrigues at court coming back (maybe different from 6ed), no valor of ages (probably changed into a new rule). There will be a new racial rule shared by all elves (we are discussing if this could be something related to elven swiftness). FALSE

There will be more core units (probably four or five slots), and more rare slots (probably three to five slots). FALSE

Cruddace was not the HE designer, and a team would be working in all three elven races at once. PENDING



Stromez Grom

High Elf - March 2013
I can confirm that we may get a new plastic infantry kit (10). I was doubting between Baumgant rumour (SM,A,SG), and new shadow warriors/maiden guard. VAGUE
Also there`s a phoenix on the way but not a superphoenix. It's a part of a shrine. I can confirm there is a huge dragon on the way but maybe not yet. FALSE



Gloryfan1 -

High Elves - April 2013
Swordmasters retain ASF (or similar) and move to Rare FALSE
New Helf unit in core with GW FALSE



Also your count for Maelstrom lists 5 true when he only has 3.