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Love the pose of that interrogator/inquisitor - I can't wait to see the paint job. He could either double as giving commands/leading or firing off some sort of wyrd power...

... and agreed about the heavy stubber/autocannon... the way he's holding it now doesn't look right at all...

Keep it up!

-Remi

storag wrote:Ok, you brought it on yourself mate here I go, hoping I'm not late again
1) back to the shotgun, I meant the left over part of the original lazgun barrel that you left. I think its too small in diameter for the supposed (from the clip's look) ammo size. I'd replace it with some larger piece of cylinder. Did it make sense this time?

2) I kinda agree with Vik about the sword. I think it's because of the size: the blade is too light looking for his bulky back. But I think you can just stick it on his butt as most versions of waist harness had the ability to be pulled back for easier movement. You'll just have to sculpt the harness, which is pretty easy imo.

3) the stubber... Please STOP! and reconsider the left hand grip! This default GW grip is a blasphemy IMO, I've never seen an actual weapon designed to be used in such unnatural way. Remember Ish's SM with assault cannon? Half his coolness comes from realistic pose built around physiologically right grip on the gun. I believe you're skilled enough to make this right

1) Now I see! I'll have a look
2) Upon further investigation, the left side may still work. However, I need to find a solution for the back anyways as he won't have the SM backpack. Still too small if the backpack housing goes?
3) At first I thought, "I've seen tons of handles like that on machine guns!" So I went online and found a good reference pic that even had the components labeled. Then I saw the top handle was labeled "carrying handle" I'll see what I can do about that

ishkatar wrote:

Nice of you to drop by, Ish

HF Izanagi wrote:Love the pose of that interrogator/inquisitor - I can't wait to see the paint job. He could either double as giving commands/leading or firing off some sort of wyrd power...

... and agreed about the heavy stubber/autocannon... the way he's holding it now doesn't look right at all...

Keep it up!

-Remi

Thanks for the encouragement and comments, Remi!

I present to you my heavy stubber trooper (a la storag )





I have to beef up his left arm a bit to match the right one and make the shoulder pads look the same, but should be do-able
Thoughts?

Cheers,
Rawson

Much better that way IMO mate. Good job!

 storag wrote:
Much better that way IMO mate. Good job!

I had a love/hate relationship with your last bit of CC: such a good catch, and yet such a pain to fix

I dont like the length of the barrel really... but love the tattered sleeve on his left arm!
Keeping an eye on this...

 MauS wrote:
I dont like the length of the barrel really... but love the tattered sleeve on his left arm!
Keeping an eye on this...

It's already been shortened 1.5 cm or so. Still too long you think?

P.S. Notice the Icelandic flag?

 Rawson wrote:

I had a love/hate relationship with your last bit of CC: such a good catch, and yet such a pain to fix

Yeah mate, I know, I have an ork with autocanon at work for god know how long but the result is worth the trouble don't you think?

actually the barrel is a bit too long for me... i can´t imagine someone holing this gun in that pose...lest firing the gun... that would have to be some mean machine of a man to wield that gun... but the whole look is rather good... so changing something here would be defnatly the worser thing of too evils... thus... forget the above mentioned realism babbling of mine

Indeed, with such a handle it looks much better now. Actually, I prefer a more chainsaw-like holder, but that's more of a personal taste and also will require right hand (or gun's grip) repositioning.
The barrel length looks good for me - the overall stubber reminds me the good ol' Browning M2 (and it is very long - approximately 1,65 m!). From the point of realism... E.g. M2 weight is about 38 kg, and even more with ammunition, but theoretically it's possible to hold the machine gun like that for someone stong and trained enough. I even can imagine one firing it, though it should be a very extreme situation. Anyway, our reality is created by our imagination
By the way, I think the ammo belt will make it even cooler, but that's because I just like ammo belts

storag wrote:
Yeah mate, I know, I have an ork with autocanon at work for god know how long but the result is worth the trouble don't you think?

Oh, I guess

Viktor von Domm wrote:actually the barrel is a bit too long for me... i can´t imagine someone holing this gun in that pose...lest firing the gun... that would have to be some mean machine of a man to wield that gun... but the whole look is rather good... so changing something here would be defnatly the worser thing of too evils... thus... forget the above mentioned realism babbling of mine

Consider it forgotten

ishkatar wrote:Indeed, with such a handle it looks much better now. Actually, I prefer a more chainsaw-like holder, but that's more of a personal taste and also will require right hand (or gun's grip) repositioning.
The barrel length looks good for me - the overall stubber reminds me the good ol' Browning M2 (and it is very long - approximately 1,65 m!). From the point of realism... E.g. M2 weight is about 38 kg, and even more with ammunition, but theoretically it's possible to hold the machine gun like that for someone stong and trained enough. I even can imagine one firing it, though it should be a very extreme situation. Anyway, our reality is created by our imagination
By the way, I think the ammo belt will make it even cooler, but that's because I just like ammo belts

I also prefer the chainsaw blade style; both for looks and realism (there is a reason they're built like that, after all ) However, I just couldn't get the angles to work, so here we are. I haven't yet figured out the ammo source, with no really great ideas coming to mind. Any brilliant ones?

I've actually gotten a fair amount of work done on the storm troopers lately. Worked mostly on heads today (though also a lot on the kneeling trooper). Since I'm not going ott with a wild and crazy retinue, I need to find ways to give them all character. Weapon conversions, =][= icons, and, easiest of all, great heads!

Here's where the stubber is. Sorry for the sideways pic. I'm not sure why Dakka is force rotating it

I originally had a different head in mind for him, but the scale was off somehow, so no go. No hard feelings, I like the cigar head for him better As you can see, I've started bulking out the left arm to match the hulking right one.

Cool SW head. You guys like the Mohawk or not? I can't decide...

I imagine this guy as a bit of a tracker or something. Maybe it's the quiet, stalking posture. Or perhaps it's the space wolf head

I've always been a sucker for the cocked helmet


This was quite fiddley to get the arms right...


I've gone back to the drawing board with the shotgun trooper. The drum mag shotty didn't look natural once attached to a body. Right now, I'm looking at the "propped on hip" scout shotgun with a stock and grip change and a dynamic right hand (whatever that means).

I also started working on the Scout pattern armor for the ogryn. Whilst working, I was contemplating giving him a bionic eye due to an unfortunate miscast on the right side of his face, but, with the Inquisitor and the tracker, that would be three bionic right eyes in the warband Guess I'll just have to paint it like scar tissue...

As always, I'd love to hear your thoughts!

Thanks for looking,
Rawson

 Rawson wrote:


I've actually gotten a fair amount of work done on the storm troopers lately. Worked mostly on heads today (though also a lot on the kneeling trooper). Since I'm not going ott with a wild and crazy retinue, I need to find ways to give them all character. Weapon conversions, =][= icons, and, easiest of all, great heads!

Here's where the stubber is. Sorry for the sideways pic. I'm not sure why Dakka is force rotating it

I originally had a different head in mind for him, but the scale was off somehow, so no go. No hard feelings, I like the cigar head for him better As you can see, I've started bulking out the left arm to match the hulking right one.

the cigar smoking head is absolutly the right choice... for a heavy badass gunner this look is always the one to choose in my book...arnie is probably nodding from over the ocean on this oh and make that shield of the helmet later on look like a glassvisor of a pilots helmet if you catch my drift... would look very cool and scavenger like...

Cool SW head. You guys like the Mohawk or not? I can't decide...

I imagine this guy as a bit of a tracker or something. Maybe it's the quiet, stalking posture. Or perhaps it's the space wolf head

mohawk is also a good choice...adds lots of character to this one... what i have my slight worries with is the combination of bionic eye and sniperscope... a bit OOT maybe? but if that overcool arangement is again overruled by the rule of cool...then so be it
I've always been a sucker for the cocked helmet


where is that cocked helemted head from, if i may ask?

This was quite fiddley to get the arms right...


I've gone back to the drawing board with the shotgun trooper. The drum mag shotty didn't look natural once attached to a body. Right now, I'm looking at the "propped on hip" scout shotgun with a stock and grip change and a dynamic right hand (whatever that means).

I also started working on the Scout pattern armor for the ogryn. Whilst working, I was contemplating giving him a bionic eye due to an unfortunate miscast on the right side of his face, but, with the Inquisitor and the tracker, that would be three bionic right eyes in the warband Guess I'll just have to paint it like scar tissue...

As always, I'd love to hear your thoughts!

Thanks for looking,
Rawson

looking forward to the above mentioned works too^^

cheers, vik

You may want to think about green stuffing a shoulder sling on the heavy stubber gunner. That way it would look like the weight of the machine gun is being supported by the gunners back and shoulders and not his left arm. The left arm would look more natural as if using the handle to keep the muzzle lined up on a target and steady. Just my opinion Love the work you're putting into them.

Viktor von Domm wrote:
the cigar smoking head is absolutly the right choice... for a heavy badass gunner this look is always the one to choose in my book...arnie is probably nodding from over the ocean on this oh and make that shield of the helmet later on look like a glassvisor of a pilots helmet if you catch my drift... would look very cool and scavenger like...

mohawk is also a good choice...adds lots of character to this one... what i have my slight worries with is the combination of bionic eye and sniperscope... a bit OOT maybe? but if that overcool arangement is again overruled by the rule of cool...then so be it

where is that cocked helemted head from, if i may ask?

Great comments, Vik! Thanks, man!
I'm not sure what you're referencing with the helmet shield. The original head I wanted to use was from the Valk kit and had a great blast visor, but not this one. It's just a trooper helmet (from the command squad) with the aquila shaved off.
You have given me a good idea about the stock scopes on the hellguns. I hadn't thought about replacing them with smaller scopes (or just removing them!) until you brought it up. Thoughts?
Cocked helm is a standard cadian trooper.

rustbucket wrote:You may want to think about green stuffing a shoulder sling on the heavy stubber gunner. That way it would look like the weight of the machine gun is being supported by the gunners back and shoulders and not his left arm. The left arm would look more natural as if using the handle to keep the muzzle lined up on a target and steady. Just my opinion Love the work you're putting into them.

Thanks for the comments, rustbucket! I've been thinking about a gun strap. I have a half cannibalized cadian flamer with shoulder strap that I am going to try to use. We'll see what happens

my pleasure to help you... as it happens to be...i got an email of bitz box uk to go and have a look at their restocked bitz and i imidiatly saw the cocked helmeted one... baught me the whole stock^^ and other goodies too^^

and i thought the same effect as the valks heads...

as for the scopes.... for badassery...keep them... for realism...get rid of them completly... personaly... i´d go for badassery...

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
my pleasure to help you... as it happens to be...i got an email of bitz box uk to go and have a look at their restocked bitz and i imidiatly saw the cocked helmeted one... baught me the whole stock^^ and other goodies too^^

and i thought the same effect as the valks heads...

as for the scopes.... for badassery...keep them... for realism...get rid of them completly... personaly... i´d go for badassery...

Well, I look forward to seeing your supply drop! The jury is still out on the scopes, but I appreciate your candor!

The fruit of the last few days:

The gunslinger

Working on the second holster as well as possibly fixing some of his hair with GS. I was thinking about trimming down the las pistols on the topside, leaving a little iron sight on the front. It would look a bit more unique and sleek.

Shotgunner Mk II

I like this pose, but the pointy hand looks too small to me.
I also like this pose, but I'm not sure if it goes well with his angry eyes. Opinions? (sorry for the shoddy pic, but you can see the main stuff in the one above )


As always, CC greatly appreciated!

Cheers,
Rawson

the gunslinger i think is perfect... no need for me to trim down the laspistol... i think a bit hefty looking ones is the better way... where is that head from? the mutton chops are looking perfect!!! i need that head!

the shotgunner... well it is always the same problem with the difference between IG arms and scout arms... the poining arm is the right pose i think... but it is a bit weedy... you could (if you have them...) use dwarven pointy hands... i know i have some... if you need a ...er...hand... speak up ... and the arm...i guess you are capable to flesh it out accordingly... also... be sure to get something done to align the shoulderpads a bit to each other...

the last mockup looks right for a heroic pose... but i think you have a more battleready pose in mind?

cheers, vik

really loving these latest guys rawson , im gonna need to get a hold of some of these heads they are perfect ba's

Viktor von Domm wrote:the gunslinger i think is perfect... no need for me to trim down the laspistol... i think a bit hefty looking ones is the better way... where is that head from? the mutton chops are looking perfect!!! i need that head!

the shotgunner... well it is always the same problem with the difference between IG arms and scout arms... the poining arm is the right pose i think... but it is a bit weedy... you could (if you have them...) use dwarven pointy hands... i know i have some... if you need a ...er...hand... speak up ... and the arm...i guess you are capable to flesh it out accordingly... also... be sure to get something done to align the shoulderpads a bit to each other...

the last mockup looks right for a heroic pose... but i think you have a more battleready pose in mind?

cheers, vik

Thanks, Vik! The head is a space wolves blood claw. This one, actually:

As you may have noticed, I gave him a bit of a haircut and trim
Thanks for the offer on the bits! Could I see a scale pic with said pointy hand?
I do prefer the pointy pose, but the other is also good, imho. I think I resigned myself to a non battleready pose when I opted for that particular shotgun.

Rogue Wolves wrote:really loving these latest guys rawson , im gonna need to get a hold of some of these heads they are perfect ba's

Thanks, RW! Shotgun head is from SG, IIRC.

i will see to that bit pic... scale comparrision with pointy IG arm? check... tomorrow early enough for your needs?

and thanks for that referrence pic mate... i think soon i need to get me a pack of some wolfen heads then... much character in these!

and yeah... the cocked shotgun is sure more of a pose of a hunter celebrating than a battle ready fighter... but it is a cool one nonetheless^^

FYI, I started up the SW repaint project again and gave it it's own PMBlog. If you're interested, you can find it here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/503868.page

Thanks for looking!

Cheers,
Rawson