Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (New Skorne Character Beast pg 31)

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**Kroothawk**

overtyrant wrote:
Nice model, but all I can think of is Santa Claus and his sled! (Minus a few reindeer).

They were shot for incompetence

Ho! Ho! Hordes!

**derek**

I like it for the absurdness of it. It's making me want to get in gear on redoing my Legion after being disappointed in the look of some of the recent releases (Afflictor :( ).

**Grimtuff**

spiralingcadaver wrote:
lolwut?

Seriously, technically pretty nice, but I can't get behind that concept at all... I think it looks absurd, and not in the over the top cool way.

What precisely do you find wrong with Lylyth Claus?* I think she looks awesome, a little 2D in places, esp. on the cloak, but still awesome.

*Guys, in a hipster-ish way like you're just noticing she looks like the Iron Kingdom's answer to Santa; people that frequent the PP boards have been calling her the above name since we saw her concept art.

**gunslingerpro**

Not to my tastes, but I think it's a great model nonetheless.

Now to work on killing that sleigh riding witch...

**Wehrkind**

You know, I saw this the other day, thought "meh" and made a Narnia joke, but didn't actually realize why I didn't like it much till just now.

Where do I look? There is just so much fiddle and stuff all over, I hardly know where to focus on, like the whole thing is covered in digital camouflage. Maybe it is just the paint and small size, but it really seems WAY too busy for me. :(

**Laughing Man**

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**spiralingcadaver**

Hmm, wish they looked more like the old Witchfire ones...

@Grimtuff
-evil raindeer armor makes them look even less believable/cool
-the sled blades would not actually work and the blades and scythes are really ugly/thick
-the scythes and rams make it look like an assault vehicle
-it still looks top-heavy
-there are a ton of things going on
-there's a reason we don't use sleds, and I think it has something to do with them not being very all-terrain

...also, I don't really like Legion color schemes.

**Wehrkind**

I can't really tell the angles in the picture well, but it looks like those reptile hounds would be blind to anything directly in front of them. Otherwise, hey, angry lizard bull dogs are cool.

**Surtur**

PUPPIES!

**Anvildude**

spiralingcadaver wrote:
Hmm, wish they looked more like the old Witchfire ones...

@Grimtuff
-evil raindeer armor makes them look even less believable/cool
-the sled blades would not actually work and the blades and scythes are really ugly/thick
-the scythes and rams make it look like an assault vehicle
-it still looks top-heavy
-there are a ton of things going on
-there's a reason we don't use sleds, and I think it has something to do with them not being very all-terrain

...also, I don't really like Legion color schemes.

Just a quick note- sledges, when being pulled by hooved animals, are actually much more all-terrain than wheeled vehicles are. The longer contact points (despite less surface area) means they don't get stuck on things like roots and rocks as easily, and disperses the weight over a larger area (in a way). And for sleds, the sharper the blade of the sled is, the better it moves over frozen surfaces.

**Boss Salvage**

Surtur wrote:
PUPPIES!!!

Fixed that for you

Totally thrilled at how doggy the lizard things turned out, I was getting worried they'd be scrawny lizard things ... Still pretty interested in running 4+ with eMakeda

- Salvage

**spiralingcadaver**

Anvildude wrote:
Just a quick note- sledges, when being pulled by hooved animals, are actually much more all-terrain than wheeled vehicles are. The longer contact points (despite less surface area) means they don't get stuck on things like roots and rocks as easily, and disperses the weight over a larger area (in a way). And for sleds, the sharper the blade of the sled is, the better it moves over frozen surfaces.

I'll take your word on them working all-terrain, since I don't have proof otherwise (and I understand the principle for sharper sled blades), but still don't find the sled design at all believable...

**Backfire**

Anvildude wrote:

Just a quick note- sledges, when being pulled by hooved animals, are actually much more all-terrain than wheeled vehicles are. The longer contact points (despite less surface area) means they don't get stuck on things like roots and rocks as easily, and disperses the weight over a larger area (in a way). And for sleds, the sharper the blade of the sled is, the better it moves over frozen surfaces.

True, Arctic natives used sleds all year, winter and summer.

Sharpened sled blades would be daft though, since they'd require solid ice to work. Also, those jagged sled blades as seen in the model would make the sled pretty useless as they would get caught on everything....

There is also no way two Reindeer could wear all that armour AND pull that sled. Reindeer are pretty lightweight animals, they don't have anywhere close same raw strength as a horse.

But it's possible they're Santa Reindeers. They're much stronger...

**spiralingcadaver**

Shouldn't that give it flight, or something, then?

**Surtur**

Boss Salvage wrote:
Surtur wrote:
PUPPIES!!!
Fixed that for you

Totally thrilled at how doggy the lizard things turned out, I was getting worried they'd be scrawny lizard things ... Still pretty interested in running 4+ with eMakeda

- Salvage

Hehehe. Depending on their rules, I want to try them with Xerxis on feat turn.

Also:

NOW IN PLASTIC!

**Backfire**

spiralingcadaver wrote:
Shouldn't that give it flight, or something, then?

That'll be saved for next edition when PP adds flyers into the game.

**spiralingcadaver**

Wow, can't stand any of the new trollblood lights. Bleh, another ugly replacement from a really nice mini...

**RiTides**

spiralingcadaver, you are totally right. Not sure what they're thinking with the plastic light trollbloods. Glad I have the metals

I feel the opposite way about the plastic trollblood heavy kit, though. It's absolutely fantastic (with the exception of the Mauler variant) so it's perplexing why the lights are so bad.

**cincydooley**

Soooo... Anyone else think the Skorne dogs look like the Goser-hounds from ghostbusters?

**Cyporiean**

cincydooley wrote:
Soooo... Anyone else think the Skorne dogs look like the Goser-hounds from ghostbusters?

its funny you say that.. I'm actually rewatching Ghostbusters atm, and just got to the Gozer Hounds attack scene.

And No, the Skorne hounds don't really look that much like the Gozer Hounds.

**derek**

I have a hard time with most Troll models (barring Boomhowlers, which I love). I really want to like them, because I've had the faction used against me to great effect, but there is just something about them I can't quite put into words that keeps me from wanting to play them.

**spiralingcadaver**

I like the trolls, and all, but it's like they described vaguely what they wanted trolls to look like to a half-dozen different sculptors who didn't talk to each other and didn't look at each other's work...

**RiTides**

Hey now

. I think the trollblood faction is amazing, just not these new plastic lights! Much of it I find looks better in-person than in pictures, too.

**greenskin lynn**

Surtur wrote:
Boss Salvage wrote:
Surtur wrote:
PUPPIES!!!
Fixed that for you

Totally thrilled at how doggy the lizard things turned out, I was getting worried they'd be scrawny lizard things ... Still pretty interested in running 4+ with eMakeda

- Salvage

Hehehe. Depending on their rules, I want to try them with Xerxis on feat turn.

Also:

NOW IN PLASTIC!

blaa
glad i have two of the metal (one of which has plastic bits worked in to decrease weight and makes it look like i've looted some menoth)

**spiralingcadaver**

@RiTides

Oh, 100% with you, and they're my favorite Hordes faction, I just also think that they have by far the most inconsistent sculpts in the entire line. They have some of the best and worst sculpts, and wildly different proportions.

**Surtur**

His face looks like he's poopin a troll whelp into his armor.

**Boss Salvage**

Cyporiean wrote:
And No, the Skorne hounds don't really look that much like the Gozer Hounds.

In case you are looking for Gozer Hounds ... Heresy's got 'em

Now to return you OT

- Salvage

**Surtur**

http://privateerpress.com/hordes/gallery/trollbloods/warbeasts/night-troll

Blinded by generations in subterranean lairs, night trolls rely on other senses to stalk their prey under cover of darkness. When trollkin warlocks impel them to venture out into the daylight they can become lethal allies. Even enemies fortunate enough to survive an encounter with one of these terrifying creatures are forever haunted by the memory of it hypnotizing their comrades and tearing them apart with venomous, paralyzing claws.

**frozenwastes**

I don't think there's a single troll warbeast I like the look of since they swtiched to this style. It's a neat idea, but everything about it is just so overdone.

**Schmapdi**

I find him quite fetching.

He's really pushing the forefront of troll evolution hand-size-wise.