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Cyvash wrote:

Becuase they are only useable in the dv scenarios, i dont get all the hype, they will probably cost as much a guard squad with a worse save of nothing....feth the bonuses if i want guard equvilant squads ill tak ig renagades.

The playtest rules have them at 3 points each and the original rumour had them at 4. They certainly won't cost the same as IG infantry.

I#m taking both IG and cultists.

I'll withold judgement until the new 'dex comes out.

Either way i want a cheap infantry blob to use as a meat shield/home objective holder.

DV has got me on the Chaos band wagon, I want a core of Cultists with elite CSM's backing them up. Very excited to see the codex, and I hope there's some kind of Cultist "leader" model that I can bring in instead of a CSM Lord...

I have the FW Renegade Command Squad ready to build for just this occasion.

Palindrome wrote:

Cyvash wrote:

Becuase they are only useable in the dv scenarios, i dont get all the hype, they will probably cost as much a guard squad with a worse save of nothing....feth the bonuses if i want guard equvilant squads ill tak ig renagades.

The playtest rules have them at 3 points each and the original rumour had them at 4. They certainly won't cost the same as IG infantry.

I#m taking both IG and cultists.

As am I, especially conscripts with "send in the next wave!" and Chenkov as a particularly diabolical Cultist leader.

The look on your opponent's face when half of your 2000 point list is really just 250 or so T3 5+ save bodies is going to be priceless.

Assuming you can afford to buy the 250+ models in the first place.

I am assuming the Cultists will coem in packs of 10 when the kit is actually released. Hopefully it will have the options for CCW/pistol AND auto guns in the one kit.

Assuming there is a kit.

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

Palindrome wrote:

Cyvash wrote:

Becuase they are only useable in the dv scenarios, i dont get all the hype, they will probably cost as much a guard squad with a worse save of nothing....feth the bonuses if i want guard equvilant squads ill tak ig renagades.

The playtest rules have them at 3 points each and the original rumour had them at 4. They certainly won't cost the same as IG infantry.

I#m taking both IG and cultists.

As am I, especially conscripts with "send in the next wave!" and Chenkov as a particularly diabolical Cultist leader.

The look on your opponent's face when half of your 2000 point list is really just 250 or so T3 5+ save bodies is going to be priceless.

I'd like to see the look on your face after you've painted 250+ models!

 Praxiss wrote:
Assuming you can afford to buy the 250+ models in the first place.

I am assuming the Cultists will coem in packs of 10 when the kit is actually released. Hopefully it will have the options for CCW/pistol AND auto guns in the one kit.

Rumor is that they'll be the same cost/model per box as Cadians.

But just like AOBR before, the ones from the box will be cheap.

Well yeah, that's a given, but I get all teary-eyed when I imagine how beautiful a multipart cultist kit could be!

Praxiss wrote:Assuming you can afford to buy the 250+ models in the first place.

I am assuming the Cultists will coem in packs of 10 when the kit is actually released. Hopefully it will have the options for CCW/pistol AND auto guns in the one kit.

It would be expensive, but oh so worth it. I'm getting a little teary eyed just thinking about the whole thing.

Alpharius wrote:

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

Palindrome wrote:

Cyvash wrote:

Becuase they are only useable in the dv scenarios, i dont get all the hype, they will probably cost as much a guard squad with a worse save of nothing....feth the bonuses if i want guard equvilant squads ill tak ig renagades.

The playtest rules have them at 3 points each and the original rumour had them at 4. They certainly won't cost the same as IG infantry.

I#m taking both IG and cultists.

As am I, especially conscripts with "send in the next wave!" and Chenkov as a particularly diabolical Cultist leader.

The look on your opponent's face when half of your 2000 point list is really just 250 or so T3 5+ save bodies is going to be priceless.

I'd like to see the look on your face after you've painted 250+ models!

Hahaha I would too. Even if I only spent 30 minutes on each model, that would still amount to 7500 minutes which is 125 hours. That's pretty ridiculous any way you put it.

Warseer DA Rumors: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?351780-DA-Rumors

Sure, it's not CSM news.. but Stickmonkey says that DA is not next, like the last page of the WD would "suggest".

Maybe some people can breath a sigh of relief ; )

I'll go pop that into the DA thread and the Ongoing tracker.

Definitely can't wait to see if the Brotherhood of Sorcerers rule will be used in this book. Maybe the new DA kit can offer us some new robes and such, if we get sorcerers.

Shame there hasn't been a mention of a unit like that. Come onnnnn, WD rules.

It seems like CSM is definitely going to be leaked soon. I wonder who will do it first?

Here's hoping for that Reddit guy........ You know which one.

Cyvash wrote:

 Praxiss wrote:
Doesn't the DV book give the points cost? (I dont have it so this is an honest question).

How are you supposed to user them in a game if you dont get the points cost for them?!

Becuase they are only useable in the dv scenarios,

And the new Chaos Space Marine Codex (with the point costs) will be out later this month...

I just want 60 Black Legion to be as good as 60 Grey Hunters point for point. Is that too much to ask?

Cultists would be nice if there is a Plague Zombie offshoot as rumored. The ones from the datasheet in apoc are only 5 pts.

Not sure how it's being discussed but if there are Chosen unlocked as Troops, will we be going back to being able to equip Chosen with Terminator armor? If Termies are a seperate Elite choice again, will there be a way to take them as troops? It just seemed like there is a way to do that in most recent books. I have Abbie and 25 Terminators along with 60+ Black Legion just waiting....

My main hope for cultists is that there will be a Plague Zombie upgrade. Give me an excuse to paint 50ish zombies.

 ashrog wrote:
My main hope for cultists is that there will be a Plague Zombie upgrade. Give me an excuse to paint 50ish zombies.

It doesn't seem to be in the OP, but word is that Typhus makes cultists plague zombies. No weapons (maybe counts-as 2 CCW) FNP, S&P, Fearless for no cost.

 Brother SRM wrote:

 ashrog wrote:
My main hope for cultists is that there will be a Plague Zombie upgrade. Give me an excuse to paint 50ish zombies.

It doesn't seem to be in the OP, but word is that Typhus makes cultists plague zombies. No weapons (maybe counts-as 2 CCW) FNP, S&P, Fearless for no cost.

And apparently become non-scoring in the process though.

Pretre, I am not sure if this is "rumor worthy", but people got Logan to spill a few tidbits in the comments section over at Natfka's site.


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Logan:

"I have sat down with the CSM codex and think everyone will be pleased. Its a good well written book. There is cheese but you will need to pay in order to truly exploit it.

They are definately one of the top3 when it comes to Psykers

As far as the named Lords...

You wont need Abbadon or Typhus to be competitive. They are all very fun and brutal characters. My personal favorites are The Blackheart and Kharne. But Bile is very nasty and Lucius is even cooler! Also there is a LITTLE bit of fluff on Cypher."

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I for one am very interested to see if they made ALL the characters useful. Sure, I'm all about some Ahriman goodness.. but I want the others to be absolutely terrifying even though I won't use 'em.

Carl from The Independent Characters apparently got a look at it and said that TastyTaste's rumors were very accurate.

: [ I want to cry. Did he say anything else?

Yeah, TastyTaste's rumors give me mixed feelings, but one way or another, I will play CSM. I just love em like I love my Crons.

I was looking on The ICs forum and saw this:

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So although he wasn't officially allowed to tell me anything, my local GW store manager has confirmed that the new chaos codex will be available to preorder in store on Saturday 22nd of Spetember 2012, to be released on the following Saturday. This is the slot that he has been told by GW hq to save in the stores diary specificly.

Naturally I am just some guy in the Internet and so you should all feel free to take this with a pinch of salt if you feel inclined. However I will point out that the same source told me the release date for the 6th edition release and he was right about that. http://www.theindependentcharacters.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3331
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Interesting to find that in a quick dig, but I'm not holding my breath yknow?

 Brometheus wrote:
Pretre, I am not sure if this is "rumor worthy", but people got Logan to spill a few tidbits in the comments section over at Natfka's site.


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Logan:

"I have sat down with the CSM codex and think everyone will be pleased. Its a good well written book. There is cheese but you will need to pay in order to truly exploit it.

They are definately one of the top3 when it comes to Psykers

As far as the named Lords...

You wont need Abbadon or Typhus to be competitive. They are all very fun and brutal characters. My personal favorites are The Blackheart and Kharne. But Bile is very nasty and Lucius is even cooler! Also there is a LITTLE bit of fluff on Cypher."

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I for one am very interested to see if they made ALL the characters useful. Sure, I'm all about some Ahriman goodness.. but I want the others to be absolutely terrifying even though I won't use 'em.

Interesting to hear Fabius Bile being described as a powerful character. I'm really excited about using his enhanced warriors in combination with the rumored marks and icons to create a "mad scientist" contingent to complement my Death Guard. Definitely excited about the potential of the new codex, and really hoping to create some cool lists beyond the uniform Death Guard lists I've been handcuffed with in the current codex.

I agree. Gives us an interesting Fabius!

 Brometheus wrote:
I agree. Gives us an interesting Fabius!

Appropriately, if it really is written by Kelly, he did add a tidbit in the Dark Eldar codex about Fabius Bile spending some time in Comorragh working as an intern for the haemonculi covens there to learn freakier sciences. Here's hoping he remembers that and gives everyone's favorite crazy apotechary fun rulles!

 Brometheus wrote:
: [ I want to cry. Did he say anything else?

He mentioned that the dual-kit daemon engine somewhat resembles a mechanical Bloodcrusher, and that the daemonic raptors inflict Blind to models within 6" of them when they deepstrike.

I really really hope the old Chaos Marine box gets recut, and a Haviv squad in plastic. Seeing the amount of stuff they fit on the recut tactical sprue makes the chaos marine sprue look terrible.